saxondale. Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Apple spokesman Lynn Fox has confirmed to News.com that Apple will be charging an upgrade fee in the amount of $1.99 for Core 2 Duo iMac, MacBook, MacBook Pro, and Mac Pro users who have 802.11n capable chipsets. Users who purchase an Airport Extreme base station will not have to pay for the upgrade.An Apple service document obtained by MacRumors had previously indicated that the fee would be $4.99, however Apple may have decided to cut the cost in reaction to strong negative reaction to the fee. Apple said it is required under generally accepted accounting principles to charge customers for the software upgrade. "The nominal distribution fee for the 802.11n software is required in order for Apple to comply with generally accepted accounting principles for revenue recognition, which generally require that we charge for significant feature enhancements, such as 802.11n, when added to previously purchased products," Fox said in a statement. The explanation for the fee is reminiscent of an explanation previously given to iLounge. However, the explanation does not fit well with many of Apple's previous practices. For example, in May Apple updated iWeb to version 1.1 which added a host of commonly-requested features at no charge. Source: Macrumors Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Weird. I bet it will actually cost more to make people pay and keep track of the billing records than to just make it appear on Software Update. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588239872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBeZ Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 This will be available to all MacBooks or just the newer ones? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588239954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale. Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 C2D Machines Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588239994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspiria Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 That Sarbanes-Oxley Act sure is strange. I'm sure if Apple could've supplied it for free via Software Update then they would've. Whatever -- People will get over it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588239998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edrick Smith Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Oh My! from 5.99? to 1.99.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588240131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
osirisX Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 $1.99?! How dare they charge that much!!! :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588240469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterC Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 What I don't get is why they don't charge like 1? if all they have to do is charge something... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588240476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 A real joke. If there wasn't this stupid law, we wouldn't need to pay. Anyway, not that it's really expensive, but if they lowered the price that much it means they really don't care about getting this money or not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588240629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted January 19, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 19, 2007 I still dont see how they cant make it 1c. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588240640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I still dont see how they cant make it 1c. As someone already pointed out, since they have to charge something, then they have to charge enough to make up for the costs of actually collecting the money. Credit card processing and other accounting related things cost money, so this is probably how they decided to at least break even on it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588240700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted January 19, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 19, 2007 But they HAVE all the people in accounting and credit card related contracts already doing such, it can be regarded as just a little "extra" as perhaps "punishment" for not stating the actual facts of their product they have been selling. These people purchased their products, they have PAID for what they asked and paid for, it is not the consumers fault, and so the cost should not be on the consumer. Charging more than zero is already more than what ethically would be reasonable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588240717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 These people purchased their products, they have PAID for what they asked and paid for, it is not the consumers fault, and so the cost should not be on the consumer. Charging more than zero is already more than what ethically would be reasonable. What in the bloody hell are you talking about? People paid for, and recieved, 802.11 B/G. They were not promised, nor was it ever advertised as 802.11 N. If a customer is happy with what they have, then they don't HAVE to upgrade. If they want to upgrade, then they have to cover the costs of distribution, which includes the cost of processing their credit card. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588240728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted January 19, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 19, 2007 Ah, point made clear. Thanks Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588240746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM_Axis Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 How ever will I recover financially?! Seriously, though. What's the list of machines that can upgrade? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588241295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale. Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Core 2 Duo iMac, MacBook, MacBook Pro, and Mac Pro users Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588241299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt T Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 At least it's better than $4.99 - although I don't think N is necessary for me at the moment anyway, so this doesn't affect me. So far all I use wireless networking for is accessing my modem. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588241307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brody McKee Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 You'd have to be stupid to pay Apple for something that should be free. The funniest thing is that if you install Windows on your Mac, it works at 802.11n with NO EXTRA COSTS! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588241313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM_Axis Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Well, that's Microsoft's financial decision. Again, I don't know how many times this needs to be said, Apple is doing this out of legal responsibility. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588241514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 You'd have to be stupid to pay Apple for something that should be free. The funniest thing is that if you install Windows on your Mac, it works at 802.11n with NO EXTRA COSTS! It's a law. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588241603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 what are the advantages of the little n? im not that a network guy so i dont really know. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588241621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 what are the advantages of the little n? im not that a network guy so i dont really know. In a nutshell increased range and better streaming of videos I believe. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588241789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaos34 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 what are the advantages of the little n? Much, much better range and potentially ~12 times faster than 802.11g. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588241810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 i see. thanks. so kinda worth the 1,99$? interesting though how the descriptions of you two vary. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588241814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt T Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 You'd have to be stupid to pay Apple for something that should be free. The funniest thing is that if you install Windows on your Mac, it works at 802.11n with NO EXTRA COSTS!My God, really?! :woot: In that case, I'll go and buy a copy of Windows! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/531070-apple-80211n-upgrade-199/#findComment-588243038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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