Ji@nBing Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 The country isn't doing enough to protect intellectual property, the industry watchdog says. The International Intellectual Property Alliance (IIPA) is a coalition of U.S. software, music, and movie producers working to protect the copyrighted materials of its members. Our own industry support group, the Entertainment Software Association (ESA), is a member of the IIPA, and is thus part of an effort to convince the U.S. government to add Canada to a blacklist of countries the IIPA believes are soft on copyright infringement. The IIPA alleges Canada's copyright laws are antiquated and do not provide sufficient protection for intellectual properties in the digital age. It is not illegal to videotape a movie in a theatre in Canada, for instance, and mod chips that allow pirated software to play on a game console are a thriving business in the country. IGN spoke with Danielle Parr, Executive Director of ESA Canada, who told us her organization has been wrestling with the Canadian government over this issue for the ten years it has been in existence. Parr says the previous Prime Minister, who was replaced one year ago, was particularly unyielding on the matter, but that current PM Stephen Harper has been more open to discussions. If the Bush administration agrees to blacklist Canada the country will join Russia and China on a list of 'pirates' who might face challenges with the World Trade Organization and possible sanctions. The U.S. placed Canada on a lower-priority watch list three years ago, but the IIPA is recommending the country be moved up to the 'priority watch list.' "Canada's long tenure on the Watch List has had no discernible effect on Canadian copyright policy," the IIPA argued in its submission to the U.S. government. "Consequently, IIPA believes that [the United States Trade Representative]should elevate Canada to the Priority Watch List as a concrete expression of U.S. disappointment that the Government of Canada has given insufficient priority to this crucial item of unfinished business. "At a time when every other developed country and major U.S. trading partner has made significant progress toward modernizing copyright legislation to respond to the challenges of an ever changing technological universe, Canada's failure to do so is particularly striking, and should elicit a commensurate reaction from the U.S. government." Source Let them blacklist us. Then they'll really see some piracy here. What a bunch of greedy ###### :angry: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excalpius Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 When I saw ESA, I thought you were talking about the European Space Agency, an ESA that really matters... ...unlike the ESA in your post. No one gives a rat's ass what those paid corporate lobbying shills have to say about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted February 15, 2007 Supervisor Share Posted February 15, 2007 I wonder if they have the balls to blacklist China, India, Russia, and all of Southeast Asia while they're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 just wait till china replaces US as super power ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinTime Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I wonder if they have the balls to blacklist China, India, Russia, and all of Southeast Asia while they're at it. China and Russia are blacklisted. Anyway I agree with this, Canada's laws are archaic regarding copyright infringement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokar Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Ever see Bowling for Columbine? (For those who didnt see it, Michael Moore explored the motive behind why the two kids from Columbine shot up their school by exploring different facets of America...trying in one part to compare them to Canada.) At one point he compared USA and Canada. USA has tons of gun-related deaths a year, while Canada has enough for the US to consider as being "none" (11,000+ vs 100+). He tried to figure out the discrepancy. Racial diversity? Nope...just as much diversity in Canada as in the US. Gun ownership? Nope...gun ownership is just as high in Canada as in the US. Violent video game exposure? Nope...Canadians have access to the same violent games as Americans. Violent movie exposure? Nope...Canadians have the ability to see the same movies as Americans see. One thing Michael Moore didnt cover was piracy laws. Seems like the piracy laws in Canada are a lot more lax than in the US. Eureka! ...thats it. Stricter piracy laws equate to more violence and gun deaths. I think the US needs to lighten up on piracy laws... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mienski Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Ever see Bowling for Columbine? (For those who didnt see it, Michael Moore explored the motive behind why the two kids from Columbine shot up their school by exploring different facets of America...trying in one part to compare them to Canada.)At one point he compared USA and Canada. USA has tons of gun-related deaths a year, while Canada has enough for the US to consider as being "none" (11,000+ vs 100+). He tried to figure out the discrepancy. Racial diversity? Nope...just as much diversity in Canada as in the US. Gun ownership? Nope...gun ownership is just as high in Canada as in the US. Violent video game exposure? Nope...Canadians have access to the same violent games as Americans. Violent movie exposure? Nope...Canadians have the ability to see the same movies as Americans see. One thing Michael Moore didnt cover was piracy laws. Seems like the piracy laws in Canada are a lot more lax than in the US. Eureka! ...thats it. Stricter piracy laws equate to more violence and gun deaths. I think the US needs to lighten up on piracy laws... the most twisted, convoluted logical conclusion ever :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Canada's laws are archaic regarding copyright infringement. Jealous? Ah! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betadan Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Ever see Bowling for Columbine? (For those who didnt see it, Michael Moore explored the motive behind why the two kids from Columbine shot up their school by exploring different facets of America...trying in one part to compare them to Canada.)At one point he compared USA and Canada. USA has tons of gun-related deaths a year, while Canada has enough for the US to consider as being "none" (11,000+ vs 100+). He tried to figure out the discrepancy. Racial diversity? Nope...just as much diversity in Canada as in the US. Gun ownership? Nope...gun ownership is just as high in Canada as in the US. Violent video game exposure? Nope...Canadians have access to the same violent games as Americans. Violent movie exposure? Nope...Canadians have the ability to see the same movies as Americans see. One thing Michael Moore didnt cover was piracy laws. Seems like the piracy laws in Canada are a lot more lax than in the US. Eureka! ...thats it. Stricter piracy laws equate to more violence and gun deaths. I think the US needs to lighten up on piracy laws... i as a Canadian agree with your logic. sure we have crimes here, Pickton trial is a huge example of that and we pay a tariff on every blank CD we buy that goes to SOCANN, regardless of that cd's actual use. so IMHO ESA can suck it with thier make believe blacklist of Canada, and deal with the real loss of intellectual property ......overpriced physical media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokyoKiller Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 i as a Canadian agree with your logic.sure we have crimes here, Pickton trial is a huge example of that and we pay a tariff on every blank CD we buy that goes to SOCANN, regardless of that cd's actual use. so IMHO ESA can suck it with thier make believe blacklist of Canada, and deal with the real loss of intellectual property ......overpriced physical media Actually, it is not just CDs and DVDs. Any digital storage device has a fee on it when purchased (Included in price). This fee goes to artists and such that lose money due to piracy and such. When I say any digital storage device I mean even iPods, HDDs and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deactivated Account Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 the ESA can KISS my White Canadian A$3. we Canadians we pay a tariff on every blank CD. so if they want to go after ppl go after the ones who we all pay a tariff to. I have paid more then lets say $5,000.00 in tariffs within the bast 5-7 years. so to me I HAVE TO RIGHT TO TAKE AND NOT PAY.. but i have yet to take and not pay.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted February 15, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 15, 2007 I believe this is called shooting yourself in the foot. People are pirating your software?, stop selling it to them!, great idea. Edit: oh yeah, and with the laws, it's the US with the stupid laws, not Canada or Australia (although ours are getting stupid like the US, they tried to ban search engines here), or etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Jealous? Ah! :) FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deactivated Account Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I say we SPAM the crap out of them.. For general inquiries, please email esa@theesa.com. For members of the media only, please contact jeff@theesa.com. privacy@theesa.com. ESA CANADA dlabossiere@theesa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deactivated Account Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 oh and to prove that Canadians pay a Copyright levy Copyright group seeks to boost MP3 player prices with new levy CBC.ca - 12 Feb 2007 Canadian music industry representatives are reopening an old debate about MP3 players that could see the average price of the devices climb by as much as $75. Cost of iPod or MP3 may be on the rise Vancouver Sun (subscription) Copying Collective goes for broke p2pnet.net Regina Leader-Post (subscription) - Legalbrief (subscription) - Digital Media Wire all 23 news articles ?> So that right there proves that we Canadians have to right to Download Copyrighted stuff for free since we Pay for the copyrighted stuff in a sence if a Copyright levy... so to the ESA (GET A LIFE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnuman Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Notice how there are basically no privacy in the US? RIAA can just go to Mr.ISP and say hey give me the IP address of Mr.X and we'll sue them for $10000 for downloading 1 song? The laws are the way they are in Canada to go after the UPLOADER not the downloader. The uploader is the one providing the information. You already do not have right to make a backup of your own music that you own or videogames that you purchased that you can make a legal backup copy. The publishers aren't going to give you another replacement if somehow your Xbox malfunctions and scratches up your game. That is why mod chips are popular to allow you the person who bought the game to make a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quanta Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 An empty threat. They're motivated by greed; they'd never give up millions of dollars of revenue because of a bunch of Johnny Napsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurë Veteran Posted February 15, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 15, 2007 I hope this doesn't work. I hope Canada respond with the Finger. China and Russia are blacklisted. Anyway I agree with this, Canada's laws are archaic regarding copyright infringement. Yeah so they should be BULLIED into conforming with the greed and ideals of another country. I don't know anything about Canadian law but I do know that the American policy of playground bully is wrong. It's about time they stopped trying to enforce their laws and culture onto other countries. I believe this is called shooting yourself in the foot.People are pirating your software?, stop selling it to them!, great idea. Edit: oh yeah, and with the laws, it's the US with the stupid laws, not Canada or Australia (although ours are getting stupid like the US, they tried to ban search engines here), or etc. WTF? That's like banning the internet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thagame Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 One thing Michael Moore didnt cover was piracy laws.Seems like the piracy laws in Canada are a lot more lax than in the US. Eureka! ...thats it. Stricter piracy laws equate to more violence and gun deaths. god i hope you are kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googintosh Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I hope this doesn't work. I hope Canada respond with the Finger. With our current PM (Stephen Harper), I am doubtful. He may insert that Canadian finger inside his own posterior orifice and ask Mr. Bush how many times he should rotate on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsolete_power Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I say we SPAM the crap out of them..For general inquiries, please email esa@theesa.com. For members of the media only, please contact jeff@theesa.com. privacy@theesa.com. ESA CANADA dlabossiere@theesa.com I wll setup an auto-emailer to spam the crap out of them ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 This is so stupid, just because we don't sue the pants off everyone with something remotely related to piracy doesn't mean we are encouraging piracy. Our laws regarding marijuana aren't very harsh, doesn't mean we are encouraging it. We just don't waste are time with petty crap that ****es more people off then helps. As its been said before, the every US government organization are greedy bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deactivated Account Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 USA should be renamed to United States of Lawsuits USL.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottKin Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Ever see Bowling for Columbine? (For those who didnt see it, Michael Moore explored the motive behind why the two kids from Columbine shot up their school by exploring different facets of America...trying in one part to compare them to Canada.)At one point he compared USA and Canada. USA has tons of gun-related deaths a year, while Canada has enough for the US to consider as being "none" (11,000+ vs 100+). He tried to figure out the discrepancy. Racial diversity? Nope...just as much diversity in Canada as in the US. Gun ownership? Nope...gun ownership is just as high in Canada as in the US. Violent video game exposure? Nope...Canadians have access to the same violent games as Americans. Violent movie exposure? Nope...Canadians have the ability to see the same movies as Americans see. One thing Michael Moore didnt cover was piracy laws. Seems like the piracy laws in Canada are a lot more lax than in the US. Eureka! ...thats it. Stricter piracy laws equate to more violence and gun deaths. I think the US needs to lighten up on piracy laws... Of course, someone with the tagline mentioning "LeechFTP" doesn't give a rat's ass about Copyrights and would want the US to "lighten up on piracy laws. As someone who has had a personal hand in having at least 20 Warez & Software Piracy Websites over the last 10 years closed by turning the info over to Microsoft via piracy@microsoft.com, I'm not suprised that you support Software Piracy. --ScottKin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deactivated Account Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 With our current PM (Stephen Harper), I am doubtful. He may insert that Canadian finger inside his own posterior orifice and ask Mr. Bush how many times he should rotate on it. yeah Haper is a PU33Y.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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