kaiwai Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Could you PLEASE PROVIDE a DIRECT link to the FULL DOWNLOAD rather than hiding it somewhere - I don't care if it is in some other 'place' put the damn link on the download page along with everything else; and once release; do the same thing for the RTM version. And people wonder why people hate AOL and hate AOL written software - written and maintained by 'thick as pig ****' morons who can't be bothered making life easier for end users. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588338708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZonoBurk Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Could you PLEASE PROVIDE a DIRECT link to the FULL DOWNLOAD rather than hiding it somewhere - I don't care if it is in some other 'place' put the damn link on the download page along with everything else; and once release; do the same thing for the RTM version.And people wonder why people hate AOL and hate AOL written software - written and maintained by 'thick as pig ****' morons who can't be bothered making life easier for end users. http://beta.aol.com/projects/aim6/AIM_6.1....ull_install.exe :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588338745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiwai Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 http://beta.aol.com/projects/aim6/AIM_6.1....ull_install.exe :| Great; but that is the BETA version, how about a link for the FULL VERSION, RTM version; and once the 6.1 RTM is released, provide a FULL VERSION link. Again, I go onto www.aim.com and where is that full version link? go onto beta site, where is an easily accessable link to the full version vs. the web download? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588338927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SULAX50 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I agree 100%, SULAX are you listening? :p This is my #1 , huge big major major only suggestion for AIM 6.0, let it skin with the damn OS! I am listening, and my personal take is do you feel this way with regards to every other application that no longer has "an OS theme"? Do you hate iTunes, Winamp, WMP, Yahoo products, etc etc etc? I understand you want OS theming, we offer an OS them as part of AIM Lite, but frankly I think yours is more of a statement that you dislike our UI then it is the need to have or want the UI to look like a traditional Windows application. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588339012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cswimbound Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 well why dont you consider making an option where the users have a choice between the current aim 6 theme and a theme that uses the windows aero type interface to mix in with windows...the current yahoo messenger has an option where you can either stick with indigo or go to classic which takes on the current os theme...i think that would please everyone then and it would eliminate a lot of the theme complaining...just a suggestion though Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588339134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xab Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I am listening, and my personal take is do you feel this way with regards to every other application that no longer has "an OS theme"? Do you hate iTunes, Winamp, WMP, Yahoo products, etc etc etc? I understand you want OS theming, we offer an OS them as part of AIM Lite, but frankly I think yours is more of a statement that you dislike our UI then it is the need to have or want the UI to look like a traditional Windows application. Yeah, I honestly do get annoyed by every other app that doesn't at least give the *option* of skinning with the OS. Having your own theme is great, just give us the option to turn it off if we wish. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588339462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I agree with the last 2 posts. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588339471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy1 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Yep, the quotes around aliases and the theme are my two biggest complaints about AIM 6. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588340016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLunacy Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Great; but that is the BETA version, how about a link for the FULL VERSION, RTM version; and once the 6.1 RTM is released, provide a FULL VERSION link.Again, I go onto www.aim.com and where is that full version link? go onto beta site, where is an easily accessable link to the full version vs. the web download? Settle down, obviously you're going to download it becuase 6.1 IS IN BETA!!! And AOL isn't the only company that has a download to download the initial application, if you don't like it find the full download or don't download it. Your not being forced to use it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588340149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SULAX50 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Yeah, I honestly do get annoyed by every other app that doesn't at least give the *option* of skinning with the OS. Having your own theme is great, just give us the option to turn it off if we wish. OK, I hear you guys. I think what you are saying is MORE than reasonable. Sorry I took the post as an attack solely on AIM, which is why I was condescending in my response. I agree with you guys that we should have multiple themes, both made by our users and also made by us. AIM Lite proves this can be done, but its still not perfect... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588340703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 22, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 22, 2007 One thing that will be interesting is to see how AOL and Microsoft react to Yahoo's upcoming WPF messenger. I can definitely see MS doing something similar for WLM, but I just can't see AOL dedicating the resources to something that would require a sizable change the to code of a rather new piece of software. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588340708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xab Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 OK, I hear you guys. I think what you are saying is MORE than reasonable. Sorry I took the post as an attack solely on AIM, which is why I was condescending in my response. I agree with you guys that we should have multiple themes, both made by our users and also made by us. AIM Lite proves this can be done, but its still not perfect... Don't get me wrong, I was not attacking you at all in either post. I have a great amount of respect for you for coming here and listening to us. If you can implement the option to skin the app natively with the OS that would be awesome =) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588340742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 22, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 22, 2007 Don't get me wrong, I was not attacking you at all in either post. I have a great amount of respect for you for coming here and listening to us. If you can implement the option to skin the app natively with the OS that would be awesome =) One thing to try to understand is the fact that Neowin members tend to reply the same way to each AIM release: "waiting for ad-hack" "Let windows skin it!" I don't know about Sulax, but I sure get tired of it lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588340893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZonoBurk Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 One thing to try to understand is the fact that Neowin members tend to reply the same way to each AIM release:"waiting for ad-hack" "Let windows skin it!" I don't know about Sulax, but I sure get tired of it lol. You're not the only one Chris. I will never understand why members just have to post "waiting for Ad Hack". If you're waiting for it, then wait for it, why are you posting that you are waiting for it? Speaking of ads, this new build's (not sure if it was in the others) ad is exasperating! When you hover over it (to get to Edit), it "pops" out larger. Eeek! Greg what is going on here?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588341025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 22, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 22, 2007 Those "popout" ads have been around for a while. It seems more and more advertisers are opting to use those kind of ads. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588341176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Dog Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Do you hate iTunes Yes Winamp Not with the v2 theme WMP No, but it's never visible on my screen... Yahoo products God Yes Opera Yes.... Ok, you didn't really say that one, but it seriously belongs on that list. Personally, I'm still boycotting new AIM versions until aolsoftware.exe dies. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588341274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted February 22, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 22, 2007 well why dont you consider making an option where the users have a choice between the current aim 6 theme and a theme that uses the windows aero type interface to mix in with windows...the current yahoo messenger has an option where you can either stick with indigo or go to classic which takes on the current os theme...i think that would please everyone then and it would eliminate a lot of the theme complaining...just a suggestion though Pretty good suggestion I may add. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588341292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiwai Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Settle down, obviously you're going to download it becuase 6.1 IS IN BETA!!!And AOL isn't the only company that has a download to download the initial application, if you don't like it find the full download or don't download it. Your not being forced to use it. Adobe provides a full download on their site, along with the web based download; Sun for their Java offer two types, the smaller web based installer and the full version off line installer; I go over to Microsoft where I can download a Microsoft Office Service Pack I can, like the above, use the web based delta download OR download the full version which is around twice the the size. Geeze, all those examples and AOL has to 'break the mould', 'rage against the machine', 'rock their boat' with their stupidity in regards to placing a link on their site; what is so hard, on their main site offering two download links; "full download" and "web download" along with a little blurb about the difference - is it *really* that hard? Honestly; you'd think that a company that size there would be some people with enough cranium capacity to crunch that idea through. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588341301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SULAX50 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 You're not the only one Chris. I will never understand why members just have to post "waiting for Ad Hack". If you're waiting for it, then wait for it, why are you posting that you are waiting for it? Speaking of ads, this new build's (not sure if it was in the others) ad is exasperating! When you hover over it (to get to Edit), it "pops" out larger. Eeek! Greg what is going on here?? What's going on is that I need a new Ferrari...JUST KIDDING! Hey it could be worse, if you used AIM back in the day we ran an ad for TravelZoo that used to pop open a new browser window on mouse over. While this is not "new" to the AIM client, I wish we could do adds differently. If you have been reading my blog, I did an at length post regarding the Ad Model in Web 2.0. IMO, it is not working, and I propose a new way to do advertising. You can check it out here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588341689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benstudley Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 One thing that really bothered me about AIM6 was if I copied and pasted text from another one AIM conversation (or anything with html formatting I think) to another, any new text I entered in the window that I copied the text to... would insert a blank line before my text. And if I copied more text from another conversation, it would insert another blank line. Does that make sense to anyone? It would be like this: before c/p text my messages showed up in the window like this: benstudley: blah blah blah friend: tru dat after c/p text and sending it to friend any subsequent text would be like this: benstudley: blah blah blah friend: tru dat c/p text twice: benstudley: blah blah blah friend: tru dat and so on. It would add one blank line for every time that I had c/p text from another AIM convo. If I closed the conversation window and re-opened it, it would fix it. Anyone else experience this problem? I'm not installing aim6 again until I know it's fixed :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588341903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bscabl Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 working on adhack, they changed a few things.. namely, silent install seems to have either moved, or taken a vacation. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588341937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLunacy Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 After using this build on my desktop and 6.0.28.1 on my laptop i can tell you one thing I don't like in the new build... Linked Screen Names -- The thing that looks like a locked screen name when you click on it doesn't do anything. Not sure if that is designed behavior or what. Also I HATE the fact that I can view all names at once like 6.0.28.1 i can see 3 sn's and all buddies at once without having to click anything. If I want to minimize one SN and use say 2 at once i can't do that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588341945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted February 22, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 22, 2007 working on adhack, they changed a few things.. namely, silent install seems to have either moved, or taken a vacation. Sneaky SULAX :shiftyninja: Anyone else experience this problem? I'm not installing aim6 again until I know it's fixed Yes, I find that quite annoying when trying to copy and paste a convo and having to close the IM window to get it back to normal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588341947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight85 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 2 questions: 1) What in the world is this ad-hack version you guys talk about? (I am assuming it is a removal of the annoying ad on the AIM interface... where can I get it? 2) I am running Vista Business & whenever i hit the X button on the new beta AIM, It just moves the screen a little to the right and doesn't actually close it... Bug or is my computer going looney? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588342074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SULAX50 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Sneaky SULAX :shiftyninja:Yes, I find that quite annoying when trying to copy and paste a convo and having to close the IM window to get it back to normal. Yeah, believe me, I did the installer long enough in AIM 1999-2003, and I don't get why our installer behaves the way it does. Like why do we open up the progress bar in the lower right corner? Do people like that? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/540538-aim-61161/page/2/#findComment-588342142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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