ViperAFK Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Been using the weeklies for a while absolutely love speed dial, I miss it when I use any other browser. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588470649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gosselin Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe such a browser exists. Konqueror... and Opera. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588470656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*John* Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Does opera work with the same number of websites that firefox does? Or is it incompatible with lots of websites? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588470815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gosselin Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 Does opera work with the same number of websites that firefox does? Or is it incompatible with lots of websites? - Download Opera - Install Opera - Test your Websites with Opera If you don't like Opera, uninstall Opera. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588470849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoun Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 One of my favorites, Opera has proven to be a great browser. :) The speed dial feature sounds good! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588470874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Been using the weeklies for a while absolutely love speed dial, I miss it when I use any other browser. OmniWeb is the only other browser I know of that has the same feature. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588470992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: Lyon :: Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 The only thing hinders me from using Opera is the built-in FTP from Firefox (FireFTP) and Opera doesn't work well in the office (problem with Opera caching although I've turned that off) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBroccoli Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Speed Dial is nice, I can remove all my little "favicons" in my toolbar now! Speaking of Speed Dial, can I change the search on it, I don't like Yahoo's Seach, I want me some good ol' Google! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gosselin Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 I don't like Yahoo's Seach, I want me some good ol' Google! Edit Google search engine (Tools > Preferences > Search) >> Use as speed dial search engine. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBroccoli Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Edit Google search engine (Tools > Preferences > Search) >> Use as speed dial search engine. :) Thanks! Quick reply too! Oh how I <3 My Google. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamanXplosion Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 The main difference between Firefox and Opera is the perspective of how the user should be catered for. I want a fast web browser, an RSS client, an IRC client, an e-mail client, desktop widgets, and so on, without having to fiddle with dozens of downloads for software installers and extensions and all that other stuff. Most of these features are not enabled by default (RSS is enabled when an RSS link is clicked on, e-mail is enabled when an account is created, IRC is tucked away in the menu, and so on) and take up practically no space on the hard-drive so if you do not have a use for them they are neatly tucked away as if they were never there. Opera also includes some nice productivity features that most browsers totally neglect. The "speak" function is incredibly helpful when trying to multi-task. One can open an e-mail, select all the text in it, and then click "speak" so Opera will read the e-mail to you and while you are listening you can do other things like work on Word documents, write replies on Neowin, and so on. You've also got a built-in panel for making notes. If you find some particular bit of information you think you'll find helpful later on, you can select the text on a webpage, "Copy to Note", and Opera will not only make a note with that text in it but the note also serves as a bookmark if you double-click on it. Opera's fullscreen mode works in Projection mode so websites can either show themselves normally or they can switch to projector-presentation mode. Thus, if you write an article webpage you can make use of the CSS projection mode to break the information up in chunks in fullscreen mode for use as presentations. Combine this with the fact it is easy to install Opera on a thumb-drive and you've got a portable internet suite, research tool, and presentation device. None of the features in themselves sound awesome but they can incredibly powerful when used together. These are some of my main reasons for using Opera. One could probably get the same results in Firefox if one is willing to fiddle with extensions, separate applications, and so on but this is too much work and consumes too much space (especially if used on a cheap thumb-drive) to be considered worth-while when one can easily install Opera with this functionality out-of-the-box. As for standards compliance, I think some people have been confused about the purpose of the Acid2 test. The Acid2 test was created to test the ability of browsers to correctly handle certain features of certain specifications. In no way is the Acid2 test comprehensive. There actually is no such thing as a browser that inerrantly follows all of the standards created by the W3C. All rendering engines, and thus browsers, have their own little quirks and deviations from the W3C standards. I cannot say whether Opera works with as many sites as Firefox. I haven't actually done any tests. I haven't noticed any problems on the websites I visit though. Opera and Firefox are rather close to eachother in terms of standards compliance so there shouldn't be much deviation between them. Most of the problems I've ever noticed in Opera were incredibly tiny ones -- perhaps an element is 1px over too far in a certain direction -- or ones that you would only find if you were somebody messing with the latest CSS features in an exotic way as part of some experiment that was never intended to work in most browsers. In general browsing, you shouldn't notice much difference between the rendering behavior of Opera and Firefox. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I cannot say whether Opera works with as many sites as Firefox. I haven't actually done any tests. I haven't noticed any problems on the websites I visit though. Opera and Firefox are rather close to eachother in terms of standards compliance so there shouldn't be much deviation between them. Most of the problems I've ever noticed in Opera were incredibly tiny ones -- perhaps an element is 1px over too far in a certain direction -- or ones that you would only find if you were somebody messing with the latest CSS features in an exotic way as part of some experiment that was never intended to work in most browsers. In general browsing, you shouldn't notice much difference between the rendering behavior of Opera and Firefox. Opera passes the Acid2 test and is 100% XHTML and web standards compliant (which is more than Firefox,) so anything that works properly in Firefox should also work properly in Opera. If it doesn't it's the fault of the webmaster for not using standardized, compliant code. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogurth Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 "Does opera work with the same number of websites that firefox does? Or is it incompatible with lots of websites?" If You encounter problems with Opera rendering certain sites in vast majority of cases it will not be Opera's fault. In such case press "f12" on keyboard while You are on problematic site and choose "edit site preferences". Here You can pick which browsers will Opera emulate(IE, Firefox..). Use the mask option since by choosing that 95% of those sites will now render properly. Talk about bad site coding ^^, luckily Opera has the answer to that :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamanXplosion Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Opera passes the Acid2 test and is 100% XHTML and web standards compliant (which is more than Firefox,) so anything that works properly in Firefox should also work properly in Opera. If it doesn't it's the fault of the webmaster for not using standardized, compliant code. I know that Opera passes the Acid2 test (a good thing) but it's not a comprehensive test for total web standards compliance [1]. Unfortunately, Opera is not 100% XHTML compliant [2] or 100% CSS compliant [3]. Opera is close, however. Right now, there is no such thing as a fully standards compliant web browser. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno_Funky Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Does opera work with the same number of websites that firefox does? Or is it incompatible with lots of websites? - Download Opera- Install Opera - Test your Websites with Opera If you don't like Opera, uninstall Opera. And while you are at it report the sites that dont work to Opera. (Help>>>> Report a Site Problem) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayzee Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I know that Opera passes the Acid2 test (a good thing) but it's not a comprehensive test for total web standards compliance [1]. Unfortunately, Opera is not 100% XHTML compliant [2] or 100% CSS compliant [3]. Opera is close, however. Right now, there is no such thing as a fully standards compliant web browser. Some of W3C standards are not 100% clear how a specific feature should work thus making Opera's and Mozilla's implementations a bit different. These things are usually fixed along the way - therefore I must say that we (yes I work for Opera) are 100% W3C compliant. A couple of our guys are sitting in W3C group and working on standards and proposals. When it comes to CSS I have to say that there is no browser that is more CSS compliant than Opera since H?kon Wium Lie, who btw. is inventor of CSS works at Opera Software. As previously said, unfortunatelly all pages do not work as they should on Opera due to bad coding and UA sniffing. If a page does not work as expected please report it to us with extensive description and how to reproduce (either via Help->Report a site problem or our OpenTheWeb team). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rado354 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Fir the big Opera's fans: Here is the: >> Addon << if you want to integrate this great program into your Windows installation CD (and our guide HowTo Do It ) :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588471794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasoosh Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 opera is my main browser. Fastest browser IMO .. i like it when the BACK & FWD takes less then a sec to go to (websites i allready visited) the layout of the cache in opera is astonishing Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588472297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windam Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Difference between Opera and Firefox are mainly these:* Opera exists for virtually every platform, Firefox does not * Opera uses approximately two-thirds the amount of memory of Firefox * Opera is optimized for speed and renders pages faster * Opera Software strives to always have the latest bleeding edge technology built-in the browser (latest additions are canvas, SSE, SVG) * Built-in tools for web developers * All W3C standards are followed to 100% Please remember I'm not a fanboy - just giving you the hard facts. goodness.. that's pretty good stuff I'm wondering about RSS in FF compared to Opera, why can't I just get a drop down list of what happend lets say on latest news on BBC while opera just takes me to a page where I have to scroll down to read everything. note I'm a noob on RSS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588472498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted April 12, 2007 Veteran Share Posted April 12, 2007 goodness.. that's pretty good stuffI'm wondering about RSS in FF compared to Opera, why can't I just get a drop down list of what happend lets say on latest news on BBC while opera just takes me to a page where I have to scroll down to read everything. note I'm a noob on RSS. Yeah, I love the RSS "Live Bookmark" implementation in Firefox. It's the only way I'll use RSS feeds. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588473028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chode Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Yeah, I love the RSS "Live Bookmark" implementation in Firefox. It's the only way I'll use RSS feeds. I find myself the opposite. I can't stand Firefox's implementation, but Opera's implementation got me hooked on RSS feeds. Choice is a magnficent thing to have :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/552877-opera-920-final/page/3/#findComment-588474589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts