Conquerz Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 JKDefrag has an option to move everything to the end of the disk. Then you can recreate the pagefile and it will be near the front of the disk. Thanks. I'll try that and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquerz Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 (edited) Grope for Luna, I've tried JKDefrag and have to say that it wasn't much help. The program could have had a better GUI. There's no options or anything for that program. You have to play around with command lines. Can you tell me the command to move everything to the end of the disk? (edit: nevermind I found a GUI addon for it) I'm confused with all this "beginning of disk", "outer track of disk" concept. In the guide for JKDefrag, it says that the beginning of a harddisk is faster than the end (and that's what I've believed too.) But UltraFrag has put a file in the center of the disk as seen in the diagram I posted. My question is "where the heck is the beginning of the hard disk"??? Is it at the center or the outer edge? Could someone plz explain this. I've searched for an answer to this but haven't found it yet. Edited January 14, 2008 by Conquerz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted January 14, 2008 MVC Share Posted January 14, 2008 Just want to point out your showing 1 platter.. I would bet my house that your drive is more than 1 platter.. So how does that image your posting correspond to the actual physical layout of your HDD? Again -- there is no point to what your trying to do - NONE! If you want performance an to "tweak" your systems bootup, even ust a 1/4 of second -- then get yourself a SSD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_disk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquerz Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 (edited) Just want to point out your showing 1 platter.. I would bet my house that your drive is more than 1 platter.. So how does that image your posting correspond to the actual physical layout of your HDD? Damn. I didn't think of that! Ultrafrag doesn't display all the platters so this view must be a layout of the whole disk from start to end in a spiral kind of shape, so that you can easily see which files are defragmented. Again -- there is no point to what your trying to do - NONE! Well, I don't want to debate on whether optimising your pagefile is worth the trouble or not. Thats been discussed in this thread already. I just want to know "how" to do it, not "is it worth doing it". Edited January 14, 2008 by Conquerz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+allan MVC Posted January 14, 2008 MVC Share Posted January 14, 2008 Pagefile optimization IS useful - recommended even - but as BudMan points out, moving it to a specific location on the HD is a complete waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquerz Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Pagefile optimization IS useful - recommended even - but as BudMan points out, moving it to a specific location on the HD is a complete waste of time. I don't know but I think it does make a difference, especailly on slower machines as I've seen little improvements. I'm trying to do this on my Toshiba Satellite Pro laptop, which is kind of slow. It only has 512MB RAM (of which 64MB is shared with graphics card!). I know increasing RAM is the best way to increase performance, but that's not an option right now. So i'm trying all the other possible ways, even if it makes little difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesseinsf Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Actually, it's better to have those 2 files out of the way like towards the center of the disk. Goto perfect Disk website Raxco.com. I don't know but I think it does make a difference, especailly on slower machines as I've seen little improvements. I'm trying to do this on my Toshiba Satellite Pro laptop, which is kind of slow. It only has 512MB RAM (of which 64MB is shared with graphics card!). I know increasing RAM is the best way to increase performance, but that's not an option right now. So i'm trying all the other possible ways, even if it makes little difference. Getting more RAM would be the most effective in performance...Plus RAM is inexpensive these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Right, having read through this whole thread, I can see some threads of my own 1. There is a debate whether relocating a page file is useful or not. 2. There is a debate as to which location is the optimal. 3. There is a debate as to the optimal number of pieces the page file should be (kinda!) At least, I would like these answered anyway :) Firstly, I am now not sure whether the location of the drive is useful. On the debate whether it is useful or not, let us not debate that here. Walking backwards may in fact be very pointless, but if enough people wanted to do it, I am sure that someone somewhere would create a thread on a forum... Second, from my limited and humble intuition, if the 'beginning' (wherever that is) of the HD is the fastest, then why not!!! Thirdly, if the page file is read randomly, then I am guessing the page file does not have to be in ONE piece. I am also guessing that there should not be too many pieces either. So while 3 or 4 pieces may be totally fine (???) it may give tweakers (like myself) some piece of mind knowing their page file is in one piece (ok damn it, like myself, arghhh (never be ashamed of who you are!!!)) Some facts I can pull from memory from what I have read over the years. It is not advisable to put a page file on a second partition on the same physical drive as the OS. A 'reputable' defragmenter I used once consolidated the page file and put it in the middle of my single partitioned physical hard drive (getting complex now :p) Ok, and finally, I came to this thread, because I too, wanted my page file in one piece and in the 'optimal' location, which I thought, was near to the beginning of the HD. There, I said it!!! So, no more talk of: Adding more RAM Re-location is a waste of time, actually, re-include that, has anybody explained in detail, or given an URL as to why it is a waste of time. Let's see some kick-ass methods to do it! Err, that?s it! Many thanks to the peeps who have supplied methods already; I will def try 1/all of them. Apps mentioned so far in this post UltimateDefrag 1.5.2 from DiskTrix UltraFrag JKDefrag + GUI addon Perfect Disk from Raxco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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