[Cancelled] Sarah Connor Chronicles (Terminator Series)

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Dont forget FOX canceled Family guy, TWICE lol and its still on

Yeah DVD's brought it back but lets face it animations don't cost much to make while Termy does.

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Yea its a lot more costly to run but I still hold out that it will resurrect one day perhaps closer to the release of the next Terminator film. There's no reason why Fox or another network couldn't pick it up somewhere down the road. The only reason that could be a factor is if the actors want to return or not. Depending how long it takes for it to be renewed they might not want to come back to that. I hope not but I have a feeling if Firefly suddenly got renewed they'd all be on board for another season. The way they talk about Josh and working on Terminator makes me think they'd love to do another season even if its a year or 2 later.

Fox cancelling it is like Sarah blowing up Cyberdyne. It'll be back, just not as soon as expected :laugh:

Judgement Day is inevitable. *cues terminator theme* :whistle:

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Yeah DVD's brought it back but lets face it animations don't cost much to make while Termy does.

At his point with Family Guy, I'm not so sure. I mean Seth MacFarlene just signed a contract for over $100 million for a 2 and half year deal. That's just his pay check. You don't include the payment for the other actors, writer, and animators or promotional material. However, I believe Family Guy is also able to bring in the money.

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Yea its a lot more costly to run but I still hold out that it will resurrect one day perhaps closer to the release of the next Terminator film. There's no reason why Fox or another network couldn't pick it up somewhere down the road. The only reason that could be a factor is if the actors want to return or not. Depending how long it takes for it to be renewed they might not want to come back to that. I hope not but I have a feeling if Firefly suddenly got renewed they'd all be on board for another season. The way they talk about Josh and working on Terminator makes me think they'd love to do another season even if its a year or 2 later.

Fox cancelling it is like Sarah blowing up Cyberdyne. It'll be back, just not as soon as expected :laugh:

Judgement Day is inevitable. *cues terminator theme* :whistle:

I really have to come to the conclusion that it doesnt matter what the film does or about the series won't return I mean you could make "Sarah Connor goes crazy" and people will say omg make SCC return! it's just not going to happen.

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I really have to come to the conclusion that it doesnt matter what the film does or about the series won't return I mean you could make "Sarah Connor goes crazy" and people will say omg make SCC return! it's just not going to happen.

If WB wants the show to be renewed they'll do it, but I don't think it's likely. Only thing we can hope for right now is a dvd movie, or a Novel, and both of those options are a maybe.

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No DVD movie when there's already official movies being made, the best bet would be a novel/comic. Even though I want it to return they pretty much screwed over Sarah character in the finale anyways so they probably would have a hard time doing a 3rd season.

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so, I think they gonna make the third season and that will be the end.

Unless they want to fund it themselves and put it on youtube or vimeo whatever it's not going to happen.

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so, I think they gonna make the third season and that will be the end.

As much as I would love to see that happen- Right now it's really unlikely. The only way I saw see this happening is if SyFy does pick up the show and decide to give it a 13 episode season. But right now I'm convinced that my favorite show will not return (I hope I'm wrong tho)

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As much as I would love to see that happen- Right now it's really unlikely. The only way I saw see this happening is if SyFy does pick up the show and decide to give it a 13 episode season. But right now I'm convinced that my favorite show will not return (I hope I'm wrong tho)

There's been no news and the panning of T4 doesn't help sadly...if it was to be given a run we surely would of heard by now for their schedules.

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There's been no news and the panning of T4 doesn't help sadly...if it was to be given a run we surely would of heard by now for their schedules.

Well yeah- that's why I think it's completely over. I think we would've probably heard something if SyFy was going to buy the rights from WB. Like I said I hope I'm wrong and something does happens between SyFy and the WB, but it's easier for me to just try and convince myself that it's over that way my hopes aren't crushed. :/

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Aye I know it's not good and it's sad but I have felt like this over shows before and had to move on :(

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Sarah Connor creator Josh Friedman on why the show won't be coming back

Of all the shows that got canceled last season, one of the hardest to lose was Fox's Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The series was canceled after two seasons of action, complicated mythology, rich characters and plenty of surprises, not the least of which was the series finale, in which John (Thomas Dekker) goes into the future, leaving Sarah (Lena Headey) behind in the past. The cancellation was all the more difficult to take considering that the lower-rated Dollhouse was picked up by Fox, while TSCC wasn't.

If you read creator and executive producer Josh Friedman's blog, you begin to realize that the viewers aren't the only ones having a hard time.

Friedman writes: "Everyone says having your show canceled is like a death, but I've been dead before, and at least when you're dead you don't get thrown off the Warner Brothers lot for haunting your old parking space." He goes into much more graphic detail about his exit from the studio.

Earlier, Kevin Reilly, Fox's president of entertainment, offered an explanation as to why the network didn't renew Sarah Connor Chronicles.

"It was a good show," Reilly said. "It was not an either/or [with Dollhouse]. We did see it tailing off a bit. It had a nice creative core, but ultimately we made the bet on Dollhouse for the night." He added: "[it] was not an inexpensive show" and said that Fox had to "make some choices on the night. But, ultimately, we looked at the ratings track on Monday, where it had a pretty consistent run, and then on Friday, where it moved to. And that trend line was not pointing in the right direction."

While Friedman isn't any too happy about the loss of TSCC, he did offer some insight into the series when talked to SCI FI Wire in an exclusive interview via e-mail last week. Below is an edited version of our Q&A with Friedman about his favorite TSCC moments, the series finale and why he doesn't know if we'll see more Sarah Connor in the future.

In your mind, how does TSCC fit into the Terminator mythology? As an independent piece or part of the bigger whole?

Friedman: I think it would've been a mistake for me to get caught up in what is canon and what is not canon. I always felt TSCC owed a great debt to T1 and T2, and I was going to do everything I could to honor that. Over time, however, you also find yourself owing a debt to the work you're doing, the material right in front of your face. So you've got to make good with that and still try to maintain an integrity with the work that's inspired you. TSCC is an expression of the Terminator universe. But it's four years of creative decisions distilled into 31 hours that will probably not jibe with everyone's idea of the Terminator puzzle. That's OK. I go with the "uncanny valley" theory on this, as in most things: The closer you get to making one thing like another thing, the more the ways in which it differs stand out.

For you, over the two seasons, what storylines took on their own life, maybe in a way you didn't expect?

Friedman: I was pleased by how much we got out of Cromartie/John Henry [Garret Dillahunt]. Most of that is due to the genius that is Dillahunt?there's a reason David Milch couldn't leave him dead in Deadwood. I always knew we'd have a Terminator body aiding in the A.I. development, but I'll admit it wasn't always the Cromartie body. We explored other ideas there, but ultimately we couldn't stand removing Cromartie from the chessboard.On the flip side, what storylines never quite developed the way you hoped?b>

Friedman: Well, the most obvious answer involves all the things that we dropped due to the strike in season one. The high-school intrigue re the suicidal cheerleader and the guidance counselor was a chunk of it. We had a character who was blackmailing various students and teachers, and John would have run afoul of him/her. We never got that far, and by the time season two rolled around, I think everyone just wanted to move past it. Obviously that's an annoying attitude if you've invested time into that storyline, but for everyone who wanted to continue that, there [were] probably 10 who were happy to get the hell out of high school.You made some controversial story choices at the end of the second season, like killing off Riley [Leven Rambin] and Derek [brian Austin Green]. Why go there?b>

Friedman: I don't think killing Riley or Derek was particularly controversial. I think both events were organic outgrowths of the choices they made and the lives they led. Both of their deaths are among my favorite moments on the show. And we do see Derek again, albeit a different Derek.What are you most proud of when it comes to The Sarah Connor Chronicles?b>

Friedman: What am I most proud of? Most weeks I was just proud we got a show onto the air. It's f--king difficult. But I guess I'm proudest that we never took the easy way out of a story problem, and we gave the audience credit for being able to follow us no matter where we went.The ending could be looked at as an actual end to the series or as a cliffhanger. Was it difficult to come up with the finale? Why did you want to end it on such a big note?b>

Friedman: The finale wasn't really any more difficult than any other episode. Frankly, "Adam Raised a Cain" almost f--king killed the writers' room, so the finale was a vacation compared to that. I'd known for quite a while where we were headed, so once we got to that point it was pretty organic. I don't think I set out to end "on a big note," but I knew I wanted John Henry to be attacked, and the drone seemed the most dramatic way to hit that beat. I needed to drive people to the future, and making the present an extremely dangerous place to be seemed like an important part of the equation. ...Do you ever see the story continuing, perhaps in a comic book or another format?b>

Friedman: I don't own this franchise or control it in any way. I can't just go make a deal to do a comic book or a DVD movie or anything like that. The people that control the franchise need to be interested in another iteration of not just Terminator, which clearly they are, but TSCC, which at this point they are not. I've tried to pull this proverbial band-aid off as quickly as I can, but I don't want that confused with me giving up on the show. It's been my entire creative existence for years, and nothing strokes my ego more than hearing about people clamoring for more TSCC and e-mailing network executives to that effect. But I want people to have a realistic understanding of what's going on. I owe them honesty.Is there anything you'd like to say to the fans?b>

Friedman: I don't think there's much I could say to fans that I haven't already said. TSCC has been my life for almost four years, and the fans have been a huge part of that experience. Nothing exists in a vacuum, and television is nothing if not a social compact?I'll try to make something worth watching, and you'll try to watch it. It's a handshake, and you don't want to leave the other guy hanging. Hopefully, we'll try again soon.

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man. really hate to see this show go. would love to see it continue. wish they would make it for a few seasons and not just one or two.

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Finally caught up with this and watched every episode of the second series in just over a week and then it ends like that! I knew that it had been canceled, but to end it like that! Grrrr...

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Finally caught up with this and watched every episode of the second series in just over a week and then it ends like that! I knew that it had been canceled, but to end it like that! Grrrr...

Well maybe one day we'll know how the story will be concluded- We can only hope.

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Since the Movies failed (T3 and 4) I think the TV series is well and truly dead, if not the entire franchise.

Waydago Batman!

Thanks for nothing.

uhhhhh....the TV series was already dead before the new movie came out....how is that Bale's fault?

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That's false hope plain and simple. You can't substitute the show's failures with the possible success of another product.

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^Does not understand the media industry!

They were hoping if the movie was a success, it could kick start the TV series.

yeah...your're right...i know absolutely nothing about how TV/media works...that must be how i got my degree and job in the field...

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That's false hope plain and simple. You can't substitute the show's failures with the possible success of another product.

Always a joy to read :) Such optimism!

But yea, it was already presumed dead before the less than spectacular release of T4. Any chances of reviving it would have to have been done by now. I think we can all go back to seeing Summer in our dreams, or tied up in the back of a van if you REALLY miss her.

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Always a joy to read :) Such optimism!

But yea, it was already presumed dead before the less than spectacular release of T4. Any chances of reviving it would have to have been done by now. I think we can all go back to seeing Summer in our dreams, or tied up in the back of a van if you REALLY miss her.

I don't think the show will return, but there's a chance that the story line might be concluded in a Novel. I know there's still people trying to fight to get the show back, and the story concluded (savethescc.com is one such place). There's a lot of people on twitter as well that are trying, but I don't know if it's going to work.

But from what I've read there's still a lot of interest in the show.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/conten...586dc093041da69

http://www.wetpaint.com/page/TVFandex/

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