Stokkolm Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I don't know why everybody is complaining about no 3G, you can only get 3G in select high population areas anyway. It does support EDGE, so it's not like the speeds will be *that* slow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyko_x Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I don't know why everybody is complaining about no 3G, you can only get 3G in select high population areas anyway. It does support EDGE, so it's not like the speeds will be *that* slow. i didn't even know what EDGE and all this stuff was but I looked it up and it looks like it could be a problem. The avg speed for EDGE is 70-135kbps according to AT&T so that's like 2x faster than a dialup modem. That's pretty darn slow especially when they're showing off full how it can load full webpages like nytimes.com and interfacing with google maps people who can afford this $500-600 probably live near high population areas too...not the country side or on farms. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokkolm Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 (edited) i didn't even know what EDGE and all this stuff was but I looked it up and it looks like it could be a problem. The avg speed for EDGE is 70-135kbps according to AT&T so that's like 2x faster than a dialup modem. That's pretty darn slow especially when they're showing off full how it can load full webpages like nytimes.com and interfacing with google mapspeople who can afford this $500-600 probably live near high population areas too...not the country side or on farms. That's not that slow for viewing webpages, maybe downloading though. 3G is available in select high population areas, not all. They have a city by city listing of everywhere but there are a lot of major cities missing, for instance Pittsburg. NYC is the only city in the entire state of New York covered. Also, most of the people who can afford the phone live in the suburbs which a lot of the time aren't covered by 3G. I would say 3G coverage is probably available to less than 20% of AT&T Wireless customers. Admittedly, not having 3G is a let down, but it's not a huge reason to pass up the phone. Edited June 4, 2007 by Agrestis Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyko_x Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 That's not that slow for viewing webpages, maybe downloading though. 3G is available in select high population areas, not all. They have a city by city listing of everywhere but there are a lot of major cities missing, for instance Pittsburg is not on there.Also, most of the people who can afford the phone live in the suburbs which a lot of the time aren't covered by 3G. haha. funny that you picked pittsburgh...i'm from there :) you made valid points. i'm going to get it no matter what, but i do still wish there were faster speeds available Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 i think i'll wait for the "touchscreen iPod" that *doesn't* have the phone built in :) and even then, i probably will not get either product. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokkolm Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 haha. funny that you picked pittsburgh...i'm from there :)you made valid points. i'm going to get it no matter what, but i do still wish there were faster speeds available Yeah, I'm from PA too (Northeast). I thought it was wierd that Allentown was on there but not Pittsburg. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahfunaki Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I live in northeastern ohio and we have a decent amount of 3g area here... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
webeagle12 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 if you buying this phone, u r asking to get robbed, no questions asked Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrobs Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Anyone notice the Google Maps ad automatically found seafood restaurants nearest them? Good editing or built-in GPS? We'll find out in 2 weeks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzyyfool Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Anyone noticed the logo on the iPhone screen is AT&T and not at&t. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I don't know why everybody is complaining about no 3G, you can only get 3G in select high population areas anyway. It does support EDGE, so it's not like the speeds will be *that* slow. I know the situation may be different in the USA, but I'm from the Rhondda Valley in south wales, hardly somewhere that gets new tech first, yet we have 3G coverage. The combination of no 3G and the pricing (total of over $1000) makes it a non starter IMO. note - I got the price from the $500 for the 4GB version, and then if you take a $30 a month contract over 2 years (which is what apple said it would be when they announced the iPhone), you get $1220 - and thats with the cheapest iPhone, and a pretty cheap contract). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgeleven Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Well I still have another year or so on my Verizon contract. I think due to that, I will wait for Rev. B or C of the iPhone before I get one. However I am really excited about this phone, even if I don't get one for a year or so. Finally a phone that has a good UI. Current cell phones really frustrate me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588601986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.kvn Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 According to various sites that I've read rumors are abound that Apple would be foolish not to release a 3G capable phone for the European market as 3G is so widespread across Europe. In fact, whatever European network carrier Apple has in mind I'm sure the inclusion of 3G will be discussed as an essential requirement. Pity it won't be released here until the end of 2007 or even start of 2008! Will I want one? Yes. Will I get one? More than likely. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Woa! I can't believe people are ready to plunk down so much cash on a phone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Thanks to all the brainwashing by Apple I will have my iPhone at the end of this month. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Woa! I can't believe people are ready to plunk down so much cash on a phone. Well its not just a phone is it? I mean sure a phone can be had cheaper but how much for a phone + 4gb mp3 player + something with a fair bit of pda functionality. It's pretty pointless to just call it a phone as really it's doing alot more and I'd hazard a guess that the phone functionality is the last thing on most peoples minds if they are seriously going to buy this (although that can be said about most phone products to be honest where ppl look more at the camera than the calling capabilities). At $500 US it doesnt seem that unrealistically priced in comparrison to devices, at least here in australia, offering that sort of functionality. We have many sony erricsons, nokias, whatevers selling for $800AU upwards which under a straight currency conversion would be more than the $500US asking price and probably wouldnt have close to the 4GB memory out of the box. So while I agree its alot for a device it does become alot cheaper if your buying it to actually make use of all the functionality and not just make calls on it. You also pay for the convinience of having that in one device. I know other companies have products that can do all of this too, and if that suits people then buy them then, no biggie. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 sigh... I two have signed a deal with the devil Verizon and I believe I am with them until early 2009.... perhaps LG, Motorola, or Samsung will release something that can compete with the iphone... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Dash8 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Thanks to all the brainwashing by Apple I will have my iPhone at the end of this month. Apple banks on the mindless sheep that buy their products just because they "look good". There's nothing innovative or 'must have' about the iPhone, it's just a very cool set of gimmicks all rolled into a pleasant package, at a premium price. Truthfully, if you're stupid enough to buy the iPhone, you deserve to be fleeced. Ironically all the people getting it to be cool will suddenly find that everyone else around them also owns one, making it totally uncool to own in the end. I'm personally enjoying my super-thin, super-useful and versatile SE W880i which has everything (including 3G) in a package much smaller than the iPhone, and much more unique. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Apple banks on the mindless sheep that buy their products just because they "look good". There's nothing innovative or 'must have' about the iPhone...The same could be said for just about any product. Your entire post is based on your opinion, someone else's opinion might be different than yours, that does make them mindless, just someone who has a different opinion than you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robgig1088 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I'm content with getting the OpenMoko when it comes out. Its pretty much the same thing, only less expensive and allows third party apps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dh5 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I'm content with getting the OpenMoko when it comes out. Its pretty much the same thing, only less expensive and allows third party apps. That's quite interesting, wonder who will offer it though [uK] Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Apple banks on the mindless sheep that buy their products just because they "look good". There's nothing innovative or 'must have' about the iPhone, it's just a very cool set of gimmicks all rolled into a pleasant package, at a premium price. Truthfully, if you're stupid enough to buy the iPhone, you deserve to be fleeced. Ironically all the people getting it to be cool will suddenly find that everyone else around them also owns one, making it totally uncool to own in the end. I'm personally enjoying my super-thin, super-useful and versatile SE W880i which has everything (including 3G) in a package much smaller than the iPhone, and much more unique. Your bragging about your "cool and unique" phone only shows that you have the same mindset as the "mindless sheep" you're mocking, you only chose a different company than them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgeleven Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Apple banks on the mindless sheep that buy their products just because they "look good". There's nothing innovative or 'must have' about the iPhone, it's just a very cool set of gimmicks all rolled into a pleasant package, at a premium price. The iPhone has the most innovative GUI in the history of cell phones. It is simple, to the point, and yet powerful. And oh yes, looks very nice. For once, I will actually want to use my cell phone. Imagine that? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 At $500 US it doesnt seem that unrealistically priced in comparrison to devices, at least here in australia, offering that sort of functionality. We have many sony erricsons, nokias, whatevers selling for $800AU upwards which under a straight currency conversion would be more than the $500US asking price and probably wouldnt have close to the 4GB memory out of the box. true, but most of the phones I've seen at a similar price here in the UK are on pay as you go or sim free. With the iPhone, your tied into a contract, so aswell as the $500 or $600 you pay when you get the phone, you will also have to be $30 or $40 (or whatever) a month for two years. (thats going on what was said when apple announced the iPhone, and assuming apple don't change their mind and offer an awesome deal). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted June 4, 2007 MVC Share Posted June 4, 2007 Well its not just a phone is it? I mean sure a phone can be had cheaper but how much for a phone + 4gb mp3 player + something with a fair bit of pda functionality. It's pretty pointless to just call it a phone as really it's doing alot more and I'd hazard a guess that the phone functionality is the last thing on most peoples minds if they are seriously going to buy this (although that can be said about most phone products to be honest where ppl look more at the camera than the calling capabilities). True, but then when it dies, you loose your Phone, Mp3 player, and PDA. Thats why I like to keep them separate. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/564937-iphone-coming-out-june-29th/page/3/#findComment-588602502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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