MrFuji Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 ^Yep, laptop, indeed. While charging I get a plug next to the battery - but I'll keep an eye on that; still haven't seen the low and critical status :) I guess most users that actually use the battery icon have a laptop, so the generic image should be fine, at least it is with me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589223600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted February 25, 2008 Reviews Share Posted February 25, 2008 Trying the new version out now many thanks man! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589230098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb. Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 How i would love a 64bit version.. Hows it going regarding that, vert? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589231036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 How i would love a 64bit version.. Hows it going regarding that, vert?Yeah, it's about time that gets a faq-like entry.Information on 64-bit support: Doesn't exist. At least not right now. There aren't any commandline scriptable resource hacking tool that supports 64-bit binaries. Sure, there's a few graphical tools, but they're not scriptable, and several of them are commercial software. Not a whole lot I can do about it; I'm not into the kind of low-level binary executable disassembly voodoo it would take to make one. http://www.msfn.org/board/official-ize64-topic-t105086.html is probably the thread for you to watch, if you're interested in that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589232216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb. Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 http://jardasmid.deviantart.com/art/Resour...ta-x64-78022625 no? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589233948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Party Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 im now on vista and cant wait for the development of the tango patcher, i loved it on xp Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589233965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 (edited) http://jardasmid.deviantart.com/art/Resour...ta-x64-78022625no? Sweet mother of f***. I'm so playing with that when I get home... time to download a 64-bit image and play with that for a few rearms. It sounds like it only runs on 64-bit systems, though, so I'd have to either maintain two sets of scripts, or build something to translate between formats (probably not a bad idea anyways), but that sort of thing is totally my domain. Edited February 26, 2008 by vertigosity Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589234029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Sweet mother of f***. I'm so playing with that when I get home... time to download a 64-bit image and play with that for a few rearms. It sounds like it only runs on 64-bit systems, though, so I'd have to either maintain two sets of scripts, or build something to translate between formats (probably not a bad idea anyways), but that sort of thing is totally my domain. Cool, I hope there is a 64 bit version in the future, although I know you can make no promises now. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589234658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Re jardasmid's resource patching tool: Unless I'm missing something (possible!), it won't work directly, but it is d***ed close to being what is needed. It doesn't seem to support the icongroup resource type (it's some kind of weird index amalgamation that ties together the singular icon resources, which are what actually store the image data, but might not always line up 1:1 between a system file and a donor .ico)... but it seems to be close enough to be worth pestering the author about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589237901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFuji Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 ^Nice for those x64'ers! But don't think I haven't noticed the changed windows flag in your sig... I count that one as a first new resource ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589237954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Eh, it is, but at the same time it kinda isn't, since I will probably have to be seriously using X64 before I start working on it. VMware doesn't seem to want to run it in a VM on 32-bit Vista, so I have to use it as my main OS, even to just test stuff on it in a VM. Mini-review of my experience with 64-bit WinVI: It's a mixed bag - there's not really a direct point in it for me. (0) My total memory addressing space comes in under 4GB (0) Literally every program I run has a little *32 by it in Task Manager (-) I'd have to give up using Tango, at least until I got the patcher working. (0) I don't really have any 16-bit apps that weren't better run in DOSbox anyways, so it doesn't lose any points there. (0) I'm really impressed at the number of 32-bit programs that rely on drivers and/or shell extensions to operate that "just work." (0) Something just bugs me about having two versions of most system files sitting around, one for 32-bit, and one for 64-bit... I know why they did it the way they did, but I would have preferred having lots of shims and thunkers instead. (-) Lots of little UI customization programs I like need specific 64-bit versions, which aren't out yet (if ever) (+) On the other, hand, 64-bit does seem to work around a strange hardware bug that I've been experiencing in 32-bit WinVI, so I might switch anyways, just so I can use a secondary HD... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589240003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFuji Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 (edited) So that would make it (-1) for 64-bit in total... You could of course install Vista x64 on a small, separate partition... Hm, ok, I wouldn't do that either... But what about Virtual PC 2007? It worked quite well when I used it, although I have no idea if it would run 64-bit Vista (product site however says it runs 64-bit). But anyway - I don't use WinVi64, so I don't really mind ;) edit: Forget about Virtual PC - it wasn't all that clearly formulated. The release notes say: * supports 64-bit host operating systems (but not 64-bit guest OSes) Edited February 29, 2008 by MrFuji Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589241490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insanor Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I hope it goes well for 64-bit Vista, i'm using the Tango Patcher on my 32-bit XP and it looks great. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589241717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 Eh, it is, but at the same time it kinda isn't, since I will probably have to be seriously using X64 before I start working on it. VMware doesn't seem to want to run it in a VM on 32-bit Vista, so I have to use it as my main OS, even to just test stuff on it in a VM.Yeah, I don't know WTF I was doing, it was complaining about not having VT support; it's working fine now with 32-bit host and 64-bit guest. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589242379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omganinja Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Yeah, I don't know WTF I was doing, it was complaining about not having VT support; it's working fine now with 32-bit host and 64-bit guest. WTF? You got a 64bit guest in a 32bit host? That shouldn't work. :s Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589242517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 WTF? You got a 64bit guest in a 32bit host? That shouldn't work. :sThat's what I thought as well, but maybe having Lagrange/VT/Pacifica/AMD-V/etc support lets the CPU divide itself more perfectly? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589243156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdomine Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Hi. What is up, regarding the 64bit Tango patcher, vertigosity? Im looking extremely much forward to use it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589258161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted March 8, 2008 Author Share Posted March 8, 2008 Hi.What is up, regarding the 64bit Tango patcher, vertigosity? Im looking extremely much forward to use it. I keep the first post updated with information about that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589258237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdomine Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Okay, great. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589258245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 From the "meh" files, icons in dialog boxes (error / warning / question / info) are stuck as Vista stock... they're located in user32.dll, as they were in XP, but if you replace it with a modified version, Vista goes into activation failure panic mode. I just LOVE playing with The OS That Knows Better. 8.03 with some minor updates sometime this weekend, unless my internet connection keeps acting up (which seems likely...), in which case it'll come out Monday when I go to work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589300384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 It's been a busy month for me outside of Tango-land, but perseverance has brought 8.03 to see the light of day. It's not overwhelmingly impressive, but it is a quantum leap from the previous version. Also, although I know I'll regret it as soon as I've posted this, I'm ready for people to start posting their skinning requests so I can prioritize and make the most efficient impact with what little time I do have free for the patcher these days. Highlights from my SVN log: Remove the "identifier" overlays from the battery meter At least the beginnings of Tangoization on iexplore, wimp, wab, hh, msi, cleanmgr, games also in gnome-games, and a few miscellaneous things that were in 2600 Add branding images for each Vista+Srv2k8 edition Classic start button bitmap (Srv2k8 OOB default) Tweaks to folder icons, and add an icon for the home folder Miscellaneous fixes to the installer and patcher As usual, download link in first post. Some caveats: I'm almost positive that this will break horribly on non-English setups, and certain dual-boot scenarios. If you don't have a standard c:\windows setup, you may need to perform a search-and-replace on the paths hardcoded in FileList.xml. I really have no idea how XPero's handling this in Vize, I guess I need to either look into it or write some code myself. Don't uncomment the line in FileList.xml for user32.dll unless you're feeling brave and are comfortable talking to the activation support machines/people – but please, let me know what happens if you do / I'm not buying you a new license if it gets you on a WGA blacklist. If you are editing FileList.xml, remember to start notepad with admin credentials, or you won't be able to save your changes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589306241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFuji Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I'm almost positive that this will break horribly on non-English setups, and certain dual-boot scenarios. If you don't have a standard c:\windows setup, you may need to perform a search-and-replace on the paths hardcoded in FileList.xml. Now that scares me a bit. 8.02 worked just fine, what's 8.03 doing differently? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589307076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 Now that scares me a bit. 8.02 worked just fine, what's 8.03 doing differently?Nothing - I've heard a few reports, looked through to see if anything in the Vize code was translating paths, and just now decided to say it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589307100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdomine Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 im still so very excited about 64bit.. i kinda got use to the default icons but tango would really add some extra Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589307106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFuji Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 (edited) Nothing - I've heard a few reports, looked through to see if anything in the Vize code was translating paths, and just now decided to say it. Alright! Installing! edit: Aaand, works! Edited April 1, 2008 by MrFuji Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/572421-shell-patcher-super-turbo-tango-patcher-6000/page/6/#findComment-589307129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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