bbc [Official] Doctor Who Thread

[Draconian Guppy]

3 hours ago, DConnell said:

He may not have actually done the casting himself, but he pushed non-stop for it - references to gender changing in regeneration only began when he took the helm. Missy was the next big step, and I'm certain he had a hand in casting Jodie. 

 

This isn't wiping the slate clean of Moffatt - it's what he was working for the entire time. 

 

But why do you think Moffatt's influence can't continue just because there's a woman in the role? (Especially since that's the ultimate expression of the Moffatt Masterplan IMO!)

I dunno, don't think the casting had much to do with moffat (other than he lobied for it perhaps?), after all Chris Chibnall had worked with Joddie? seems like a hand picked choice! Also the fact that a woman is now cast opens a whole new world for love affairs (hence no sense for nardole to be around), assistants/companians, as such, clean slate in so many terms with moffat story arcs. (eg. My bet is own the new showrunner taking advantage of the things i'm mentioning to improve on moffat, or if you want to look at it that way, he has the plate served for a clean slate, whatever he choses to do, we will know until it happens I guess.)

 

[DConnell Member]

16 minutes ago, Draconian Guppy said:

Also the fact that a woman is now cast opens a whole new world for love affairs

 

No thanks. That's another element of modern Who I dislike - the romantic focus. Hated Season 2 because of the 10-Rose crap. I agree with the late John Nathan-Turner - no hanky-panky in the TARDIS!

[Rappy Veteran]

I will be intrigued by the Cosplays at SDCC for it

[DConnell Member]

6 minutes ago, Damo R. said:

I will be intrigued by the Cosplays at SDCC for it

Best reason for her casting I've seen yet! 

[Draconian Guppy]

7 minutes ago, DConnell said:

No thanks. That's another element of modern Who I dislike - the romantic focus. Hated Season 2 because of the 10-Rose crap. I agree with the late John Nathan-Turner - no hanky-panky in the TARDIS!

Exactly! It could also take that point! See the possibilities!

4 minutes ago, Damo R. said:

I will be intrigued by the Cosplays at SDCC for it

ahhh good observation  

[Rappy Veteran]

9 minutes ago, DConnell said:

Best reason for her casting I've seen yet! 

and the fan fiction  

[FloatingFatMan]

9 hours ago, Draconian Guppy said:

Also the fact that a woman is now cast opens a whole new world for love affairs (hence no sense for nardole to be around),

If there's one thing absolutely guaranteed to make me and 1000's of other Who fans stop watching the show, it's more sodding romance! NO! Dr Who has NEVER been about that, and shoehorning it in just ruins it.

 

[margrave]

I agree the romance feels forced, and uncomfortable.

 

I also think that Helen Mirren would make a smashing Doctor Who.

[Yazoo]

To be fair she isnt the first actress to play the Doctor   
Female Doctor

[BetaguyGZT]

Gah, no. Not romance. Anything but that. We had entirely enough of that with Amy, Rory and Clara. River Song I could understand, because that was an important for THREE Doctors; but that's all that should have been needed.

[LOC Veteran]

Actually, I'd love to see River show up now that the Doctor is going to be a woman. Not because I'm some sick freak and want to see some hot lesbo action or something, but because I think they could do some great play on gender roles that way. But I suppose that would also funnel into all the hate they are currently getting about the situation. Eh, I doubt River is going to come back though at least so soon.

[Rappy Veteran]

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaint/DoctorWhoJodieWhittaker/

[The Evil Overlord]

23 minutes ago, Damo R. said:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaint/DoctorWhoJodieWhittaker/

Oh FFS!

Honestly, some people would be happy to keep progress in the stone age. To those luddites, get over yourselves, the world doesn't revolve around you, don't like it, then don't effin watch it!

[FloatingFatMan]

^ I know, right? I mean, sure, I'm not totally happy about the decision. I think a lot of it IS just pandering to the PC brigade, but remember that I'm coming from a history of growing up with Dr Who, specifically Pertwee and Baker for my younger years, and they were huge father figures for me. It's only natural I'd have some concern over such a huge change. Hell, YOUNG Doctor's were bad enough without switching to young woman!

 

But I will give the new Doctor a chance, just like I have all the others.  With all the recent ones I've started off not liking I've been proven wrong, so that will probably happen again.

 

[The Evil Overlord]

4 minutes ago, FloatingFatMan said:

But I will give the new Doctor a chance, just like I have all the others.  

Hit the nail on the head, (for me Capaldi was the one that turned me off), but If Jodie can bring back that 'magic' then I don't see the harm in it.
At a guess I'd think we're in similar age brackets as Pertwee and Baker were the Doctor when I was growing up too.

[FloatingFatMan]

1 minute ago, The Evil Overlord said:

Hit the nail on the head, (for me Capaldi was the one that turned me off), but If Jodie can bring back that 'magic' then I don't see the harm in it.
At a guess I'd think we're in similar age brackets as Pertwee and Baker were the Doctor when I was growing up too.

I had many doubts about Capaldi.. His age was right, but his acting history gave me pause.  Sadly, his first season was fraught with such dreadful writing, that I actually didn't even bother to watch his next 2 until very recently.  Now he's finally gotten some decent stories, he's decided to go...

 

Eh.. 3 years seems to be the average for Dr Who actors so he's spot on there.

 

As for age.... Probably, yes! I'm 48.  and have been a huge Who fan since as long as I can remember... About 3 years old I think, which puts me right at the end of Pertwee's era.  My earliest strong memory of the show is of a huge spider on the Doctor's back, killing him! Pretty terrifying image for a little un!

 

[The Evil Overlord]

1 minute ago, FloatingFatMan said:

I had many doubts about Capaldi.. His age was right, but his acting history gave me pause.  Sadly, his first season was fraught with such dreadful writing, that I actually didn't even bother to watch his next 2 until very recently.  Now he's finally gotten some decent stories, he's decided to go...

 

Eh.. 3 years seems to be the average for Dr Who actors so he's spot on there.

 

As for age.... Probably, yes! I'm 48.  and have been a huge Who fan since as long as I can remember... About 3 years old I think, which puts me right at the end of Pertwee's era.  My earliest strong memory of the show is of a huge spider on the Doctor's back, killing him! Pretty terrifying image for a little un!

 

42, I used to watch re runs with by brothers who are both older

[Rappy Veteran]

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Kris Marshall was a red hot favourite to take on the iconic role of Doctor Who but it seems that may be everyone was looking at the wrong role all this time as he is now reportedly considering the role of the assistant.

 

Marshall shocked fans when he quit his popular BBC drama Death In Paradise out of the blue, leading to speculation he had been cast as the new Doctor, taking over from Peter Capaldi.

A shock announcement on Sunday July 16 however confirmed that the BBC had instead hired a woman to take on the role which has been familiar to many for decades, and now it has been alleged that Marshall is instead on the top of the list to take over from Pearl Mackie as the assistant.

 

‘Kris is a big fan of the show and the BBC are a big fan of his,’ a source told the The Sun.

 

Former companions include Jenna Coleman, Billie Piper, and Karen Gillan; Pearl joined the show in 2016 but has stepped down after one series.

Matt Lucas will remain as a second assistant.

 

 

[DConnell Member]

5 hours ago, The Evil Overlord said:

Hit the nail on the head, (for me Capaldi was the one that turned me off), but If Jodie can bring back that 'magic' then I don't see the harm in it.
At a guess I'd think we're in similar age brackets as Pertwee and Baker were the Doctor when I was growing up too.

I'm willing to give her a chance, but I'm very skeptical - I like the Doctor as a father/mentor type character - even Matt Smith was wrong for the part IMO. But better writing could have changed my mind, and it could do so here as well. Similarly, I LOVE Capaldi as the Doctor, but stopped watching because I hated the stories he was in. Got so disgusted with the terrible scripts that I didn't even watch the last season. Hell Bent was pretty much the worst episode of the entire series, old and new.

 

Similarly, I always felt Peter Davison was too young for the part, and worse, his portrayal was totally boring. He's the least of the actors in the role so far. Even the much-maligned Colin Baker injected his Doctor with loads of character and genuinely came off as alien.

 

As long as she's better than Davison and Smith, and Chibnall hires decent writers, I'll watch. If not, there's always the next regeneration. I ignore the Davison era, I can ignore the Whitaker era too if it isn't up to par.

 

[The Evil Overlord]

14 hours ago, DConnell said:

I'm willing to give her a chance, but I'm very skeptical - I like the Doctor as a father/mentor type character - even Matt Smith was wrong for the part IMO. But better writing could have changed my mind, and it could do so here as well. Similarly, I LOVE Capaldi as the Doctor, but stopped watching because I hated the stories he was in. Got so disgusted with the terrible scripts that I didn't even watch the last season. Hell Bent was pretty much the worst episode of the entire series, old and new.

 

Similarly, I always felt Peter Davison was too young for the part, and worse, his portrayal was totally boring. He's the least of the actors in the role so far. Even the much-maligned Colin Baker injected his Doctor with loads of character and genuinely came off as alien.

 

As long as she's better than Davison and Smith, and Chibnall hires decent writers, I'll watch. If not, there's always the next regeneration. I ignore the Davison era, I can ignore the Whitaker era too if it isn't up to par.

 

We are now sworn enemies,  

[DConnell Member]

7 hours ago, The Evil Overlord said:

We are now sworn enemies,  

Hey, at least I can watch Matt. The Peter Davison era is like watching paint dry ...

[Steven P. Administrators]

5 minutes ago, DConnell said:

Hey, at least I can watch Matt. The Peter Davison era is like watching paint dry ...

Liked Tom Baker as Doctor Who but wasn't a fan of the others until the reboot.

[PsYcHoKiLLa]

19 minutes ago, DConnell said:

Hey, at least I can watch Matt. The Peter Davison era is like watching paint dry ...

My most hated (mebbe a bit strong) Doctor was Sylvester McCoy, just could not stomach him in the role, maybe it was because I'd grown out of it (I'm an older guy like you 2, 49) and had fond memories of Tom Baker.

[DConnell Member]

14 minutes ago, PsYcHoKiLLa said:

My most hated (mebbe a bit strong) Doctor was Sylvester McCoy, just could not stomach him in the role, maybe it was because I'd grown out of it (I'm an older guy like you 2, 49) and had fond memories of Tom Baker.

Syl worked best with Ace - he isn't the best Doctor, but the 7-Ace team is amazing.The right companion can really make the Doctor work. That's one reason I'm not as hard on Colin as some people - he was saddled with the worst companions of the classic show! Maybe if they'd borrowed Frobisher from the comics ... Or if they hadn't tried to pass Peri off as an American ... who couldn't hold her "American" accent for a full line. Peri was my most hated companion until Rose came along.

 

And it's also why I could watch Matt despite his portrayal just not clicking for me - Rory was awesome. Problem was Moffatt had the attitude that the companion was more important than the Doctor.

 

 

[The Evil Overlord]

3 hours ago, DConnell said:

Syl worked best with Ace - he isn't the best Doctor, but the 7-Ace team is amazing.The right companion can really make the Doctor work. That's one reason I'm not as hard on Colin as some people - he was saddled with the worst companions of the classic show! Maybe if they'd borrowed Frobisher from the comics ... Or if they hadn't tried to pass Peri off as an American ... who couldn't hold her "American" accent for a full line. Peri was my most hated companion until Rose came along.

 

And it's also why I could watch Matt despite his portrayal just not clicking for me - Rory was awesome. Problem was Moffatt had the attitude that the companion was more important than the Doctor.

 

 

Storylines were stupid as well, imperial daleks vs renegade daleks, cybermen who were more camp than scary, too reminiscent of 1960's England (complete with 'no blacks allowed' signs in shop windows etc.)