RAID 0 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 SojIrOu said: well you've got us for help. you've also got my experience of 7 years (13 to 20) of building pcs for myself and family and friends but mainly myself. :Danyway RAID 0: i seriously doubt that a bios setting/s would make his 8800 as slow as it is. i speak of course from experience. the graphics card is just supposed to work when you plug it in and install new drivers. usually its because the psu is not supplying enough power (causing slowdowns or hanging) or an issue with the driver or even the card might be faulty. Ummm, he's got a 6800 now. He said he got better FPS with his old P4. He upgraded the MB and CPU to a Q6600. Now tell me, what would cause that loss of FPS? To me, it sounds like a setting problem. It does not make since that a quad core would under preform a old P4. Right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SojIrOu Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 whoops i mistook his case for another. anyway his psu is still suspect till proven innocent. maybe chipset drivers for his motherboard could be the problem as well. wait a minute. dr did you upgrade your motherboard? also did you update the bios to support the q6600? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBroccoli Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 I did upgrade my MoBo, I wasn't aware I had to update my BIOS to support the processor? I mean Windows show it fine as a C2Q and my MoBo was one that support Intel Quad Core CPUs... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Try flashing your BIOS, then go to the MB manufacturer's website and get all the latest drives for the MB. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 if it's an SLi/crossfire board make sure it's in the master x16 slot and not slower secondary x8 one. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummyz Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I think they are speaking about upgrading the bios and it may help boost your GPU performance of the 6800GS. It's not likely it will work but worth a shot if you are willing to try. As said earlier by Mustard, you are not receiving the performance you should be right now but I don't want to bring this offtopic from it's true intent. Another vote for the 8800GT 512MB, but the 38xx series from ATI is a good alternative. Even the 8800GT 256MB, but I would not go less than those. You may also want to list your power supply as that is an important factor in this too. I'm not sure of this but maybe your case listed as well, as some long video cards are problematic for some cases. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBroccoli Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 I have an Ultra X-Infinity 500w PSU, which I've heard has had mix reviews, but it's never given me problems before. I also have a Antec P180, which I'm pretty sure has ample room =D. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Before you buy the 8800 (that's what I'd buy. No ATi) move the 6800 to a different PCI-E slot to make sure it's going at 16x. Try this program.... GPU-Z download It will tell you everything (including interface speed) about your video card. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBroccoli Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 RAID 0 said: Before you buy the 8800 (that's what I'd buy. No ATi) move the 6800 to a different PCI-E slot to make sure it's going at 16x. Try this program.... GPU-Z downloadIt will tell you everything (including interface speed) about your video card. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Interesting. Your pixel and texture fillrate should not be 0. Same with your clock speed. There might be a problem with your card. You might want to try RivaTuner to fine tune your card. RivaTuner Here's mine... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SojIrOu Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 that looks like your graphics card isn't accelerating the graphics which is why you get 5-10fps (from software or cpu alone). perhaps you should try using drivercleaner and reinstall or try an older version of drivers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceBrewedBeer Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 To answer your question about brands. I'd stick with XFX, BFG, or eVGA. All 3 have lifetime warranties, but the BFG and XFX brands have exceptional customer service and their warranties cover 3rd party coolers and overclocking. I hear that eVGA has also amazing customer service but does not provide the same warranty that BFG and XFX provide. Also with the eVGA you have to ability to be part of the 90 day "Step Up" program that allows you to trade in your graphics card within the 90 day period for a newer graphics card and just pay the difference. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummyz Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 When you upgraded your CPU/Mobo/Ram, did you use the old OS you had installed, or did you format and start from scratch? I'm not familiar with GPU-Z but like Sojirou says, it could be the cause of the problem. The 6800GS is still a decent card at medium graphics/resolution. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
notuptome2004 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 gummyz said: When you upgraded your CPU/Mobo/Ram, did you use the old OS you had installed, or did you format and start from scratch?I'm not familiar with GPU-Z but like Sojirou says, it could be the cause of the problem. The 6800GS is still a decent card at medium graphics/resolution. GPU-Z is the GPU version of CPU-Z Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589099974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBroccoli Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 I formatted and reinstalled Vista. I tried to set the clock speed of my GPU via RivaTuner, but GPU-Z still reports it as being 0. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589100458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakocino Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 RAID 0 said: Interesting. Your pixel and texture fillrate should not be 0. Same with your clock speed. There might be a problem with your card. You might want to try RivaTuner to fine tune your card. RivaTunerHere's mine... I think thats a problem with gpu-z. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php...mp;postcount=28 http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=47431 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589100526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Yeah looks like a gpu-z problem to me, the software is still pretty new and has some problems. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589100620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 ViperAFK said: Yeah looks like a gpu-z problem to me, the software is still pretty new and has some problems. While that may be the case, low FPS... weird readings from GPU-Z... the problem might be with the card it self... or some drivers.... I don't know. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589100793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBroccoli Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 This may be totatlly unrelated but my screen has been flashing lately, just a random blackout for a split second, then back to normal. Then, yesterday, out of nowhere my screen flashes, 4 clones of my desktop pop up in a grid, then it disappears. I don't fun any extra desktop software either, so no virtual desktop hotkey was hit or anything. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589101423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
include Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Digix said: 3870 is much better then 256MB 8800GT if wanna split the budget between the 2 but yeah. What on Earth are you talking about?! http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardw...-preview-5.html They both cost the same and yet they 3870's 3D performace pales in comparison to any of the nVidia cards. I don't know what AMD/ATI were thinking, but they had better be getting ready to release some formidable GPUs, because the G92 already stole the show. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589101493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+shift. MVC Posted January 1, 2008 MVC Share Posted January 1, 2008 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...manufacture=HIS - HIS 3870 @ $224.31 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...xy%20Technology - Galaxy 8800GT @ 249.99 At only $20.00 difference between the two cards, I would choose an 8800GT. I really expected the 3870 to be quite a bit less expensive too... http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...facture=Diamond - Diamond 3850 @ $189.99 The 3850 on the other hand is a bit more affordable. If they had the 3870 at current 3850 prices, I wouldn't even consider the 8800GT unless price was not an issue. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589101541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBroccoli Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 I want to buy it SO BAD, but it's sold out EVERYWHERE. That site you linked to Shift, was in Canadian prices and I'm in the US, and I'm not so sure about that brand name.... Galaxy? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589102971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+shift. MVC Posted January 1, 2008 MVC Share Posted January 1, 2008 Those are Canadian prices; and I'm not sure about brand name Galaxy, I just found the most inexpensive 8800GT there and posted link for discussion purposes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589103336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBroccoli Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Yeah, my GPU has got to be dieing... I keep having random screen flashes and today my screen went completely BRIGHT green and would do anything, I still heard everything, just no video. I was only in Windows too, I wasn't playing a game or anything. Would underclocking my GPU help prevent some of that until I get it replaced? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589104142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 DrBroccoli said: Yeah, my GPU has got to be dieing... I keep having random screen flashes and today my screen went completely BRIGHT green and would do anything, I still heard everything, just no video. I was only in Windows too, I wasn't playing a game or anything. Would underclocking my GPU help prevent some of that until I get it replaced? You can try that. It might help. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/610092-gpu-upgrade/page/2/#findComment-589104154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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