Tha Bloo Monkee Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I just want one of them to die. I don't really care, I'll never buy any of those formats for a while, until one is CLEARLY gone like the Beta tape. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateB1 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 So sub $100 good quality Profile 2.0 players will be selling in six months? Awesome. You must know something I don't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 So sub $100 good quality Profile 2.0 players will be selling in six months? Awesome. You must know something I don't. i don't, but i doubt it will be longer. but then again, i might be wrong, im purely speculating, my own opinion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted January 5, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 5, 2008 Blu-ray ftw! :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 It's not a realistic indication of demand if you were basically forced to choose between the formats based on which studio released what film on which format, when the studios may have gone exclusive to one based solely on the cash they were offered. It skews the numbers. Again and again. For every studio that has been neutral, their movies have sold more on Blu-ray. If every studio did release their movies on both formats, BR would still have the lead since it just has a larger marketshare of hardware, we'd be seeing the same ratios, not HD-DVD leading (Toshiba needed a trojan horse like Sony). The standalones and add-ons just weren't enough to combat the PS3. We would be in the same position. Stores wouldn't like it, consumers would get confused by it. You didn't respond to the rest of course, but one format is the best way to go. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrstud22 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 The hardware is overpriced, most of the hardware doesn't support simple features like Picture in Picture and when films come out on both formats, the HD DVD version generally has more extra features (Harry Potter, 300 etc.). Plus, here begins another beginning into region coded films.Remember, Sony p*ss people off easily and regularly. Let's see how long people can ride it out. I am saddened than HD DVD is apparently losing but as long as the format war is over, I can start my venture into HD! Dude, idk what you're talking about here. I just watched 3 blu ray movies today (home sick with the flu :p ) and they all have the features you apparently crave including PiP and the pop up menus. If anything Blu is better with more space, therefore more ability to provide features and high quality content Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Sigh, yep.. it seems the number is 500 million for Warner. Insiders say that Warner wanted to go HD DVD if one more studio followed. When that studio didn't go for it, they've decided to try to end this war by going Blu-Ray and with the hefty number of green bills it was a no brainer. http://formatwarcentral.com/index.php/2008...n-from-the-bda/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 And you have the President of the company saying that no money was accepted. Perhaps the BDA offered free BD50s? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormier6083 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Like a wise Al Pacino once said... "It's not personal. It's just business." That's if these rumors are true. They seem to fit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 And you have the President of the company saying that no money was accepted. Perhaps the BDA offered free BD50s? :p Dude don't be naive, please. It is obvious and confirmed by many many insiders from everywhere that money exchanged hands. Not that something is wrong with this.. I'd do the same thing if I was Warner. It just sucks for consumers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I've heard another rumour of $620 million as well. Consumers were buying more of their BR titles, so at least they didn't go against demand. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Dude don't be naive, please. It is obvious and confirmed by many many insiders from everywhere that money exchanged hands. Not that something is wrong with this.. I'd do the same thing if I was Warner. It just sucks for consumers. I'm just going by what he said. It doesn't suck for consumers. I love it as I primarily support Blu-Ray. The whole 'final spec' argument only affects those who are obsessed with extras and those people haven't jumped over (in mass) yet [since this is still early adopter phase]. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambiance Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I got a PS3 for Christmas and now it's looking a whole lot better. Blu-ray ftw! :yes: +1 LOL @ your sig stevan. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I'm just going by what he said. It doesn't suck for consumers. I love it as I primarily support Blu-Ray. The whole 'final spec' argument only affects those who are obsessed with extras and those people haven't jumped over (in mass) yet [since this is still early adopter phase]. No, it's not that.. it's the fact that I'm buying a feature limited product for more money. That's why. It's like buying a car with no hi-fi system in there, no sattelite radio etc. And you are paying more for not having those. And if you want to see how this looks like, then you have to pay even more. Please tell me you don't realize that's what Blu-Ray is at this point. We'll see, but I don't think we'll see $99 Blu-Ray players for YEARS to come. One way or the other. When you go and buy things do you say hey even though I can get more for my money, I'll pay even more and get less because I might not need it. It's a very narrow way of looking at things that has no real touch with reality. I'm sure you don't do that in real life, but you are just supporting that attitude now because it suits your Blu-Ray support thing. And I agree with many people that I've taked to now. High-def market is doomed now. There is not mass adoption at $300 prices and by the time they lower the prices to acceptible <$200 HD VOD and services like hi-def downloads will take over completely. Warner made the worst possible move they could. As consumers we've been screwed big time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateB1 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 And I agree with many people that I've taked to now. High-def market is doomed now. There is not mass adoption at $300 prices and by the time they lower the prices to acceptible <$200 HD VOD and services like hi-def downloads will take over completely. Warner made the worst possible move they could. As consumers we've been screwed big time. QFT x100 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormier6083 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Well, someone's predictions have been wrong before.... anything is possible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 C'mon now, you're just being silly. The only reason we saw a $99 HD-DVD player was due to Toshiba discontinuing the model and getting it out of the door for really cheap. But wait, I bought a car with a hi-fi system or something since it only outputs 1080i, it fails to read some combo discs correctly, ridiculous start-up time and load times, etc. How soon you forget about the software sales advantage that BR held over HD-DVD as well. I'm sure that HD media is completely doomed :p Also, $300 isn't a bad entry point considering how much DVD players cost in the beginning AND considering it is HD material. Hell, it'll look great sitting next to the $100-$200 HDMI cables on the rack that most consumers think are the only prices for them. Not to mention the product name is mostly SONY and the general public associates the SONY brand with top notch electronics [which in some areas may be true, others not.. but thats not what is up for debate here]. It was exciting while it lasted. I'm going to keep my A2 and play my HD-DVDs on it since they all of a sudden won't stop playing when Universal and Paramount/Dreamworks go neutral. Hell, I'll probably go buy a faster loading player once the prices fall :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I can't argue when you are saying that $99 players that offer full functionality are bad. How can you argue that. You had a few problems with discs. I'm sure that all Blu-Ray movies played fine. Mayve you should ask those people who paid a $1000 for players that couldn't player movies. Those hiccups are present on both sides. For you to just point in HD DVD direction is what's silly. If some people see $300+ players for the same thing as something we were getting for $99 several times and it was going that way this year and you are ok with that I can't really argue that. God willing we will see the consequence of this, but I know that I won't be paying any money for more Blu-Ray players until they are in <$200 for full Profile 2.0 I like my players to have all features I can get, not something that will do basic function. I'm sorry but I like technology. I don't see mass public buying $300+ players either. As I said, we've been screwed and now we are going to be paying through the nose for something that we didn't have to pay. I won't argue anymore. We'll see what happens in the future. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I won't argue anymore. Promise? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I can't argue when you are saying that $99 players that offer full functionality are bad. How can you argue that. The quote "Cheap isn't always good" comes to mind with me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Michael Bay: Well another studio down. Maybe I was right? Blu ray is just better. HD will die a slow death. It's what I predicted a year ago. Now with Warner's down for the count with Blu Ray. That makes it easier for Wal-Mart to push Blu Ray. And whatever Wal-Mart pushes - wins. Hd better start giving out those $120 million dollars checks to stay alive. Maybe they can give me some so I can give it to my Make-A-Wish charity, just to shut me up. Have faith people Transformers will come out in Blu-ray one day! ;)Bay http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=842 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trek Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 This is good. The Blu-Ray/HD-DVD war is slowing mainstream adoption of a standard HD-format. We need a winner. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightz Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 michael bay shows no bias at all :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eros Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 well now only Microsoft can save HD DVD, in they want. Since Microsoft spending Billions in XBOX, all they have to do is, buy one XBOX & get that HD DVD add-on for free, early XBOX360 owners will get that player as well for free and ppls who owns HD DVD addon will get 5 additional movie for free. So think about this, there will be 20 millions XBOX360 HD DVD owners and movie studios will have no options but to jump on to those 20 millions market. I think Microsoft can afford this ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 This was probably logical : http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/05/is-ne...-exclusive-too/ New Line could be going Blu-Ray exclusive too. Since it's under WB umbrella.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611316-warner-bros-to-back-blu-ray-dvd-format-exclusively/page/13/#findComment-589112996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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