L3thal Veteran Posted January 6, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 6, 2008 :blink:HD DVD "rings" better than "Blu-Ray", IMO Being a part-time worker at a retail chain, people are more curious about Blu-Ray Disc than HD-DVD. The different name makes it sound like its something superior to HD DVD. I mean, HD DVD, to the average consumer, makes it sound like its a DVD but in higher quality. Blu-Ray sounds like something for the next-gen and far superior to HD DVD. Its no surprise that Blu-Ray is beating up HD-DVD in sales. Having the letters "DVD" in their name loses appeal because that word has been around for years and everyone knows what a DVD is, but not a Blu-Ray disc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589114358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhav Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Being a part-time worker at a retail chain, people are more curious about Blu-Ray Disc than HD-DVD. The different name makes it sound like its something superior to HD DVD. I mean, HD DVD, to the average consumer, makes it sound like its a DVD but in higher quality. Blu-Ray sounds like something for the next-gen and far superior to HD DVD. Its no surprise that Blu-Ray is beating up HD-DVD in sales. Having the letters "DVD" in their name loses appeal because that word has been around for years and everyone knows what a DVD is, but not a Blu-Ray disc. (Y) This is how I felt and what I would have expected. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589114371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 If Paramount go Blu-Ray at CES, then that seals the deal for me. I'm off to buy a Playstation 3. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589114379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 If Paramount go Blu-Ray at CES... Let's see a source first. ^unfounded Rumors otherwise. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589114382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 If Paramount go Blu-Ray at CES, then that seals the deal for me.I'm off to buy a Playstation 3. I doubt paramount, but universal? We don't know what type of contract universal has, but we kinda know that paramount has a 18-month exclusivity deal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589114383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Being a part-time worker at a retail chain, people are more curious about Blu-Ray Disc than HD-DVD. The different name makes it sound like its something superior to HD DVD. I mean, HD DVD, to the average consumer, makes it sound like its a DVD but in higher quality. Blu-Ray sounds like something for the next-gen and far superior to HD DVD. Its no surprise that Blu-Ray is beating up HD-DVD in sales. Having the letters "DVD" in their name loses appeal because that word has been around for years and everyone knows what a DVD is, but not a Blu-Ray disc. One of my brothers works full-time at Best Buy (well, as "full-time" as you can get in high school -- he works probably around 6 hours a day; don't need anyone's negative input on that if they care to share any, thanks ;)), and he's had similar comments, but drastically different reasoning behind them. People ask what a "Blu-Ray" is, whereas they already can figure out that a "HD DVD" is a high-definition DVD. When people are informed that they're essentially the same thing, their responses tend to be 'Well what's with the stupid name?', to which they're informed of the blue laser for reading, and which they simply don't comprehend why you would name a disc after the laser that's used. But you're exactly right -- everyone knows what a HD DVD is, and not everyone knows what a Blu-Ray is. But, my question is this -- how on earth is that an advantage? I've never seen (and, from his comments, neither has my brother) anyone indicate that "Blu-Ray" sounds like a higher quality. It just sounds different. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589114393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Well this makes the Netflix and LG set top box look even better. For those of us that don't watch a movie but once (or maybe on HBO later) it is best we don't buy either format. This will also kill video streaming to other TV's in your house because DRM and copy protection in Blue Ray will not let this happen. Also since Sony is part of Blue Ray if you plan on watching HD movies on your computer then you are in for "rootkit" hell. I look for streaming movies via cable or DSL to take off now. If they lower the prices per movie and increase the time allowed to watch the movie it will kill the the format war anyway. Cable companies and DSl companies have been enjoying this war and making out like crazy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589114398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni_78 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 LOTR on Blu-Ray :). They would have had to split extended ecdition into two disc with HD DVD. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589115113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 One of my brothers works full-time at Best Buy (well, as "full-time" as you can get in high school -- he works probably around 6 hours a day; don't need anyone's negative input on that if they care to share any, thanks ;)), and he's had similar comments, but drastically different reasoning behind them. People ask what a "Blu-Ray" is, whereas they already can figure out that a "HD DVD" is a high-definition DVD. When people are informed that they're essentially the same thing, their responses tend to be 'Well what's with the stupid name?', to which they're informed of the blue laser for reading, and which they simply don't comprehend why you would name a disc after the laser that's used.But you're exactly right -- everyone knows what a HD DVD is, and not everyone knows what a Blu-Ray is. But, my question is this -- how on earth is that an advantage? I've never seen (and, from his comments, neither has my brother) anyone indicate that "Blu-Ray" sounds like a higher quality. It just sounds different. They've been hyping "blue laser" dvds since 2002 or something like that. A lot of people know there is something new, and that it uses blue laser. Blue laser, blu ray... it makes HD-DVD look as if it didn't use the same technology Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589115165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted January 6, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 6, 2008 But you're exactly right -- everyone knows what a HD DVD is, and not everyone knows what a Blu-Ray is. But, my question is this -- how on earth is that an advantage? I've never seen (and, from his comments, neither has my brother) anyone indicate that "Blu-Ray" sounds like a higher quality. It just sounds different. It doesn't sound like its higher quality, it sounds more next-gen and new. Remember, consumers love new things and I don't know about you, but choosing to name their next-gen format HD-DVD is like beating a dead horse (the dead horse being the word DVD). That is similar to them creating a format 15 years ago named HD-VHS. When something new comes out, people begin to ask questions and in all honesty, they believe its a better product because nearly every retail store promotes Blu-Ray more than HD-DVD and they demonstrate Blu-Ray demos more than HD-DVD. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589115270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 If you buy a movie on DVD from Sony (or anything related to Sony), you get a nice add about Blu-Ray included in the DVD box and also a big Blu-Ray promotion before the preview.... That's marketing. If you did not know what Blu-Ray was, you sure know after that. I have yet to notice any kind of add like that on a DVD to promote HD-DVD. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589115276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDQuiksilver Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 If you buy a movie on DVD from Sony (or anything related to Sony), you get a nice add about Blu-Ray included in the DVD box and also a big Blu-Ray promotion before the preview....That's marketing. If you did not know what Blu-Ray was, you sure know after that. I have yet to notice any kind of add like that on a DVD to promote HD-DVD. Exactly! This is where HD-DVD is also faltering. I've yet to see any, if much, advertising at all. Be it posters, pamplets or on television. Hell, I've even seen Blu-ray advertisements before movies at the theater. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589115470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Oh man, some people just crack me up Courtesy of someone at Blu-ray.com! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589116324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 This is the way I've always seen it. HD DVD is known MOSTLY among the nerded out crowd like us, and BD is known by even your average Joe. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589116354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 It doesn't sound like its higher quality, it sounds more next-gen and new. Remember, consumers love new things and I don't know about you, but choosing to name their next-gen format HD-DVD is like beating a dead horse (the dead horse being the word DVD). That is similar to them creating a format 15 years ago named HD-VHS. When something new comes out, people begin to ask questions and in all honesty, they believe its a better product because nearly every retail store promotes Blu-Ray more than HD-DVD and they demonstrate Blu-Ray demos more than HD-DVD. Your comparison is apples and oranges. Why would you name a format HD VHS when it obviously was not? We're talking about the same physical type of format (discs), whereas DVD was a physical change from VHS. You can't compare the two in the least bit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589116388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCheese Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Oh man, some people just crack me up <snipped> You know I'd actually like to see that film in Hi Def >.< (Titanic that is) HD VHS Speaking of which, lets forget this stupid format war and go with D-VHS(Hi def on VHS) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-vhs Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589116465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted January 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 7, 2008 Your comparison is apples and oranges. Why would you name a format HD VHS when it obviously was not? We're talking about the same physical type of format (discs), whereas DVD was a physical change from VHS. You can't compare the two in the least bit. I wasn't comparing it; it was more of an analogy, albeit a bad one, I'll admit. I think my point was proven since a few people understood it and agreed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589116822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDQuiksilver Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 This is the way I've always seen it. HD DVD is known MOSTLY among the nerded out crowd like us, and BD is known by even your average Joe. Now I'm confused. Weren't the HD-DVD backers on this very forum stating "HD-DVD is the easiest for your average joe to catch onto due to the name" ... could have swore I read that multiple times? Blu-ray nutheads can be nerds too. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589117108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 So people actually like region encoding? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589117277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Considering it is an issue with a minority of consumers [very, very, small minority] yet it is an issue with the vast majority of distributors, it makes sense that they would want to back a format that included region coding [for new releases]. I fail to see how this is an issue for debate because it really doesn't affect 90% of consumers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589117279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Everywhere outside the US is a "very,very small minority"? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589117282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 So people actually like region encoding? I don't, so all my BDs are region free. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589117338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnzoFX Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 new line is part of warner, so this is to be expected of course Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589117365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 So people actually like region encoding? We don't, but New Line seems to like them. If you read the articles, New Line say that it's because of the lack of region coding that they did not put out many HD-DVD title... You can have Rush Hour 3 on Blu-Ray, but it's not on HD-DVD.... And it's from New Line.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589117374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Everywhere outside the US is a "very,very small minority"? Those who care to import - Yes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/611502-new-line-shifts-to-blu-ray-exclusivity/page/2/#findComment-589118435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts