gfheiche Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 OK they've changed the way they include it.Copy the ntpass folder to the root of your flash drive, and then use this entry instead of the above one for ntpass: title ntpass kernel /ntpasswd/vmlinuz rw vga=1 initrd=/ntpasswd/initrd.cgz /ntpasswd/scsi.cgz initrd=/ntpasswd/initrd.cgz It at least booted for me, hope it works for you too (Y) It worked. Thank you for this elegant construction of a powerful program. Can you recommend kind of a users' manual for it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590120280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikonizer Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Not bad at all, but I think I'll stick with Hiren's Boot CD. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590122710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbert Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Excellent guide Si. I have a problem with the Windows PE boot manager. I get an error when I try this option: "Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause." File: \Boot\BCD Status: 0xc0000225. Screenshot attached. I downloaded the files and installed on an AMD2X64 Desktop (running XP SP3 32 bit)and the laptop I'm using it on is an Acer Travelmate 803lci with Intel Centrino 32 bit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590137908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Can we have a screenshot of your folder layout and the files within there please. This may help us identify the problem. I have PE on a USB stick using this boot method and it works fine, so im guessing you may be missing some files. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590138242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbert Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Can we have a screenshot of your folder layout and the files within there please. This may help us identify the problem. I have PE on a USB stick using this boot method and it works fine, so im guessing you may be missing some files. Here's a screenshot of my files. Everything else works fine apart from PE. I read somewhere that it could be a problem with chainloader /bootmgr but that was something like chainloader /(hd0,6) which gave exactly the same error. Please comment. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590139036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Veteran Posted November 17, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hi Kevbert. All these new posts have inspired me to update my own recovery drive - and I have just followed my own instructions successfully. I did do two things differently to the guide you followed: A) I did my build within Windows Vista (with SP1). Not sure if this makes any difference at all. B) I have used the WAIK 1.1 in order to get the newer Windows PE 2.1 as opposed to 2.0 Perhaps it is worth copying the PE files to the drive again, in case your \boot\BCD file is somehow corrupt? I will update the original post with the ntpasswd and PE 2.1 details. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590139764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Veteran Posted November 17, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted November 17, 2008 It worked.Thank you for this elegant construction of a powerful program. Can you recommend kind of a users' manual for it? Glad to hear it worked - unfortunately I don't have a link to a manual as such. I spent an evening working in Google to build this originally, sorry! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590139810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Kevbert, Can you try making a copy of you EFI folder that is currently on your drive root, and place it inside the BOOT folder please and then try again. I have an EFI folder on both my drive root and in the BOOT folder, so im wondering if this has anything to do with it. This is the only difference i can see between the two. Other than that, can you post a copy of your menu.lst please for us. Rich Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590143432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotnar Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 @Kevbert How much memory does the machine you're trying to boot this on have? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590146404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbert Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Thanks to everyone who's replied. I've tried installing again to a new flash drive and get the same result. I removed PE2.0 and installed 2.1 from DVD. Regarding WAIK, two comments. In the displayed example install on the APCMAG webpage it shows 18 files are downloaded via the command prompt (I only get 17 using PE2.0 and 2.1). Also the command OSCDIMG -bc:\temp\x86_pe\etfsboot.com -n -o c:\temp\x86_pe\iso c:\temp\x86_pe.iso - does there need to be a space between -b and c:\temp\... ? Unfortunately I don't have Vista, I'm using Windows XP SP3. The amount of memory in my laptop approx 1.75Gb excluding video memory (not shared). I've tried copying the EFI folder to BOOT and it makes no difference. I have a BCD file in \BOOT which is 262144 bytes. The md5sum for this is 603c405372fae16a89ec9f3b92a1aae5 (on a linux PC). My menu.lst boot file was copied straight from the website using Notepad: color black/cyan yellow/cyan timeout 60 title SystemRescueCD kernel /rescuecd initrd=initram.igz video=ofonly vga=0 scandelay=5 initrd /initram.igz title Windows PE chainloader /bootmgr title DBAN kernel /memdisk initrd /dban.img title ntpasswd kernel /ntpasswd/vmlinuz rw vga=1 initrd=/ntpasswd/initrd.cgz /ntpasswd/scsi.cgz initrd /ntpasswd/initrd.cgz title Memtest86 kernel /memdisk initrd /memtestp.img Thanks in advance. Kevin. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590148366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) I think i see your problem now. In your menu.lst file, you ahve not set the correct root. Therefore the Windows PE is not looking in the correct place for the boot files. Try this under your Windows PE option: find --set-root /EFI/bootmgr chainloader /EFI/bootmgr Let us know how you get on! (Y) Edited November 19, 2008 by Rich Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590148574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbert Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I think i see your problem now. In your menu.lst file, you ahve not set the correct root. Therefore the Windows PE is not looking in the correct place for the boot files.Try this under your Windows PE option: find --set-root /EFI/bootmgr chainloader /EFI/bootmgr Let us know how you get on! (Y) Thanks. I assume that this should be in my menu.lst file. Unfortunately I get an error 17: File not found. I've also tried this under bash. The bootmgr file is in the root directory. Can someone attach a copy of bootmgr and BCD (the one under /BOOT). After all the USB stick can be used for any Windows PC (or am i wrong ?) I've even tried changing the case in menu.lst as Grub is a linux thing (just in case it's case sensitive). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590148976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Thanks. I assume that this should be in my menu.lst file. Unfortunately I get an error 17: File not found. I've also tried this under bash. The bootmgr file is in the root directory. Can someone attach a copy of bootmgr and BCD (the one under /BOOT).After all the USB stick can be used for any Windows PC (or am i wrong ?) I've even tried changing the case in menu.lst as Grub is a linux thing (just in case it's case sensitive). The root i set needs to be change according to where your files are located. As far as i could tell you said you made a copy of the EFI folder to your BOOT folder so it should have worked. The case should not be the problem. I have changed this also and it makes no difference. Im out of suggestions myself to be honest. Im guessing there might be something wrong with the PE files you are using? :s Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590149068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbert Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 The root i set needs to be change according to where your files are located. As far as i could tell you said you made a copy of the EFI folder to your BOOT folder so it should have worked.The case should not be the problem. I have changed this also and it makes no difference. Im out of suggestions myself to be honest. Im guessing there might be something wrong with the PE files you are using? :s Thanks Rich. It may be as Si suggested that I need to use Vista to set this up as I've tried both PE2.0 and 2.1 via the two versions of WAIK. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590149180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Thanks Rich. It may be as Si suggested that I need to use Vista to set this up as I've tried both PE2.0 and 2.1 via the two versions of WAIK. No problem mate, always happy to help where i can. However, i dont think that is the case. I use XP and dont have this problem. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590149230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m0nb0y Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 UPDATED 2008-11-17: Windows PE 2.1 update and ntpasswd fix.****************************************************************** This is a neat little project for those of you that could be asked to help fix a PC at any moment in your life - the end result is a flash drive which when booted lets you pick from: This was an informative post and I appreciate it. However, I prefer to use UBCD to burn a one time off disk. Because 1, a CD-R is cheaper. 2, USBs can be used for file transfer Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590160298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 This was an informative post and I appreciate it. However, I prefer to use UBCD to burn a one time off disk. Because 1, a CD-R is cheaper. 2, USBs can be used for file transfer However, a USB is: 1. More portable 2. Cheap enugh in price for a 1gig drive now 3. this allows you to still move things to and from the device, even when botted from it Your argument does not really stand much ground to be honest. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590160310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpaddy81 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Hi, with ntpasswrd grub4dos doesn't work -> http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=5433 There is a guide how to combine the two ramdisk files to one, but i'm a linux newbie and I cannot make the grub4dos compatible new ramdisk with scsi drivers. Anyone could do this? Thanks & br Pat Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590228542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Hi,with ntpasswrd grub4dos doesn't work -> http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=5433 There is a guide how to combine the two ramdisk files to one, but i'm a linux newbie and I cannot make the grub4dos compatible new ramdisk with scsi drivers. Anyone could do this? Thanks & br Pat title ntpasswd kernel /ntpasswd/vmlinuz rw vga=1 initrd=/ntpasswd/initrd.cgz /ntpasswd/scsi.cgz initrd /ntpasswd/initrd.cgz Simple as that? What error do you get when using the above? Also, ensure that vmlinuz, initrd.cgz and scsi.cgz are in the ntpasswd folder on the root of your drive. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590228686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpaddy81 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 title ntpasswdkernel /ntpasswd/vmlinuz rw vga=1 initrd=/ntpasswd/initrd.cgz /ntpasswd/scsi.cgz initrd /ntpasswd/initrd.cgz Simple as that? What error do you get when using the above? Also, ensure that vmlinuz, initrd.cgz and scsi.cgz are in the ntpasswd folder on the root of your drive. ntpasswd is starting but it doesn't show any fixed harddisk in the pc, because grub4dos can't load scsi.cgz (it can only load initrd.cgz) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590228712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Im guessing, but try initrd=/ntpasswd/scsi.cgz Are you using SCSI, IDE or Serial drives? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590229096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpaddy81 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 (edited) Im guessing, but try initrd=/ntpasswd/scsi.cgzAre you using SCSI, IDE or Serial drives? I have ide & sata drives,.. but ntpasswd needs the initrd.cgz to run,.. Im guessing, but try initrd=/ntpasswd/scsi.cgzERROR: KERNEL PANIC Edited December 5, 2008 by mrpaddy81 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590229404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I have ide & sata drives,.. but ntpasswd needs the initrd.cgz to run,.. Did you do it like this: title ntpasswd kernel /ntpasswd/vmlinuz rw vga=1 initrd=/ntpasswd/initrd.cgz initrd=/ntpasswd/scsi.cgz initrd /ntpasswd/initrd.cgz Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590229678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpaddy81 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Did you do it like this:title ntpasswd kernel /ntpasswd/vmlinuz rw vga=1 initrd=/ntpasswd/initrd.cgz initrd=/ntpasswd/scsi.cgz initrd /ntpasswd/initrd.cgz tryed it - it runs, but it shows ONLY the USB Stick from which I'm booting, no system disk! multi cgz files not yet suported. As a workaround you need to combine these cgz files into one cgz file, for example, in these steps:1. use gunzip and cpio to decompress /initrd.cgz and /scsi.cgz into a folder 2. run cpio in the folder to create a new cgz ball, called new_initrd.cgz Then you would write the initrd line like this: initrd /new_initrd.cgz this is I think the only solution but I have no idea how to do it,.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590229856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 tryed it - it runs, but it shows ONLY the USB Stick from which I'm booting, no system disk!this is I think the only solution but I have no idea how to do it,.. Hmmm, strange. I see my drives on my machine regardless. Im not much of a Linux guru, only a starter really. Hopefully someone else more Linux knowledged will see this and be able to assist further, but i have exhausted all my ideas. Ill let people know about this thread for you though mate. Sorry i couldnt help more (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621496-create-a-multi-boot-rescue-usb-flash-drive/page/3/#findComment-590230080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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