Brodel Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 clearly you have know nothing about hockey either. Fighting is so respected in hockey it's ridiculous. Fighting prevents cheap shots. And yeah just because not every fight is like a heavy weight boxing fight. Honestly, soccer players, especially european ones are a bunch of girls. They embellish nearly EVERYTHING (not the english ones usually, they are pretty good). The amount of diving is ridiculous, it's just embrassing to watch a spanish or portuguese game (ronaldo especially, as good as he is, he is a little girl that dives like crazy). You hardly even addressed my points. It doesn't fit into the game, it wouldn't work and I don't see how anything can come from it. Your comment was regarding two completely different sports. If you think the officials should be stricter then fair enough but fight's like in hockey clearly don't have any place in football. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589230617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D!rtySh@dy Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Eduardo I hope you will be back quickly as possible ! Taylor don't look Eduardo when he make tacle. Lot of english defenders are Bucheron. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589230625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey13 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I'm not defending him by any means as it was a bad play but it does not seem intentional from the looks of it. It was just bad timing where Eduardo's foot was planted in the ground where he received the shock. If it wasn't, his ankle probably wouldn't have broke. Sorry but that is wrong. It was nothing to do with timing. You are not supposed to tackle a player with a locked leg and studs out at any time, even if he had missed Eduardo's leg it would have still been extremely dangerous. The fact that Eduardo is coming in Taylor's direction as well is what made this so horrendous. If you look at the replays Taylor has his leg bent. He then straightens it as Eduardo arrives and that is dangerous play. Taylor should take responsibility for his actions. What he did was dangerous, he knowingly did it and he may have ended a young player's career. Personally I think he should be banned for as long as Eduardo is injured. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589230640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 <snip>I'm not defending him by any means as it was a bad play but it does not seem intentional from the looks of it. It was just bad timing where Eduardo's foot was planted in the ground where he received the shock. If it wasn't, his ankle probably wouldn't have broke. that's what i'm saying. to me there isn't much to defend, the tackle was no where near as late as most late tackles ever, which is one of the main reasons for the injury. As I said before intentional or not a player who does that assumes the risk to cause a serious injury in someone else. The ball was in the ground (rolling in the field). Taylor's foot was in the air. For me the math here is simple. :( his foot was around 1" off the ground till where his leg was straight and then went up due to the "kicking" motion at the ball, see this image just after eduardo got the ball: http://localhostr.com/files/0ea851/vlcsnap-6934786.png you can't get much closer to making the tackle than that. whether or not it was intentional is up for debate, and it no matter what the outcome of the debate, that was a reckless challenge. Most of the time a challenge like this does not result in a serious injury, but when it does the perpetrator must take responsibility, and I dont mean just getting sent off. It's the same thing as reckless driving, most of the time you get away with it... but it happens once and off to prison you go. tackles like this are so commonplace now that people think it's normal, we see week in week out teams hacking down the arsenal players, and in that same match birmingham match the players were still kicking our players and the didnt even get a yellow.... martin taylor going in with studs up was just asking for trouble, and steve bruce has the audacity to say "it doesnt even warrant a yellow card". Bollocks. and please, "sliding on the ground"?? Take a look at the video/pic, you call that sliding on the ground? point 1. that wasn't a reckless tackle, he didnt jump at the player or go with much force point 2. players are always getting little kicks in football, better players kicked more due to quicker movement. i dont remember man utd players kicking you that much in the fa cup, more the other way around but i assume you wengers eye syndrome too :rolleyes: point 3. steve bruce didn't say the yellow card thing, he said 'Some would say it is not even a yellow card.', two different things. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589231143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 25, 2008 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2008 Arsenal hope Croatian striker Eduardo will make a full recovery from his horrific leg break in nine months.The 25-year-old suffered a fractured left fibula and an open dislocation of his left ankle in a challenge with Birmingham's Martin Taylor on Saturday. Eduardo will have his leg in plaster for the next six to eight weeks before beginning a rehabilitation programme. Arsenal say the Croatia international, signed for ?7.5m in 2007, should be running again in six months. 9 Months:|| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589231407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 "some would say it's not even a yellow" means steve bruce thinks it's debatable whether that tackle even warrants a yellow card. if an Arsenal player did that and he get a 15-match ban, I wouldn't like it naturally but I'm not to say it's undeserved. I've been critisizing Eboue all season because of his attitude. The foot came in at eduardo's shin, that's reckless. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589232955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 http://localhostr.com/files/0ea851/vlcsnap-6934786.png Good find, that really does show that there was no intent and it was just unlucky really. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589233348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey13 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Not too sure about this new image. It seems to directly contradict this earlier one I.e in the first one Taylor's foot is on the ground and Eduardo's is above his. Taylor's leg is also bent. How is the second picture completely different? Also why all the fuzzy glow? This is extremely dangerous play. I'll say it again. In football you are not allowed to tackle towards a player with studs out and a locked leg. Particularly if he is coming towards you. The reason for this? To prevent exactly what happened to Eduardo. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589233384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanekiwi Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 i saw all those images and videos, but this morning i saw a new feed on bbc/cnn stating eduardo will be missing around 9 months (!!!) due the complicated injury. that's just insane :pinch: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589233391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey13 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 9m seems about right but I reckon could be a year. Unfortunately Eduardo suffered a double compound fracture in the worst and post painful part of the leg. I've had a single not quite compound (nearly had to have surgery to set it) fracture to one bone in the the same place and I can tell you that was bloody painful. I can't even imagine how awful this is for him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589233402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 actually it was "just" a fibula fracture. I was surprised at 9 months really, when I first saw the vid I thought he wouldn't play again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589233645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanekiwi Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...nal/7263029.stm http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2259909,00.html Arsenal hope Croatian striker Eduardo will make a full recovery from his horrific leg break in nine months. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589233654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Not too sure about this new image. It seems to directly contradict this earlier one I.e in the first one Taylor's foot is on the ground and Eduardo's is above his. Taylor's leg is also bent. How is the second picture completely different? Also why all the fuzzy glow? This is extremely dangerous play. I'll say it again. In football you are not allowed to tackle towards a player with studs out and a locked leg. Particularly if he is coming towards you. The reason for this? To prevent exactly what happened to Eduardo. no i agree, the first picture doesn't look right... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589233684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey13 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Ah I hadn't seen the Monday story only the Sunday one which said it was a double compound. I'm still amazed at the number of people (mangers, pundits etc) who think this wasn't even a red card. A shin high tackle with studs out and a locked leg. Even if he missed Eduardo I've seen people sent of for those kind of challenges. Fair enough I think it wasn't intentional but it was still dangerous. "I didn't mean to do it" is no defence in a law case why should it be in sport? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589233733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 No way. It was a straight red and that was the right decsion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589240957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Not too sure about this new image.<snip> It seems to directly contradict this earlier one <snip> I.e in the first one Taylor's foot is on the ground and Eduardo's is above his. Taylor's leg is also bent. How is the second picture completely different? Also why all the fuzzy glow? This is extremely dangerous play. I'll say it again. In football you are not allowed to tackle towards a player with studs out and a locked leg. Particularly if he is coming towards you. The reason for this? To prevent exactly what happened to Eduardo. the image i posted was taken directly from the video on youtube that was recorded off the slow-mo replay on match of the day video available here http://localhostr.com/files/ec195a/eduardo.flv (warning, you can see the injury fully) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589240976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unto Darkness Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Possibly a career ending injury. I hope this is properly investigated and Taylor punished. That is a nasty remark. Taylor didn't mean it. He did apologise to him and all and even met Eduardo in the hospital. Man Taylor looked shocked on the pitch. Anyways, Eduardo will be back, although probably 9 months later. It seems the poor lad is recieving a lot of death threats from Croatian fans. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589267765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 bull****, he never visited eduardo in the hospital. it was all the tabloids' doing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589269312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I think he actually did visit Eduardo in the Birmingham hospital... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589270113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 I was reading eduardo's interview after the injury and he said taylor never visited him. Maybe the interview itself was cooked up by someone? hmm. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589270923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Can I have a link to that article? Maybe it was to calm down the media? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589271902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Before the interview, the reporter had to agree not to ask anything about Martin Taylor. The only thing Dudu said was that Taylor did not visit him in the hospital to offer an apology, like some papers reported http://www.arseblog.com/columns/2008/03/05...th-croatian-tv/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589272706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Ahh ok then mate. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/621643-arsenals-eduardo-leg-break/page/3/#findComment-589274683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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