gigapixels Veteran Posted June 26, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 26, 2008 What do I shoot the dolls with? The Sniper Rifle is too slow so i dunno... The regular pistol and even the M4 are far more accurate than you give them credit for ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589511082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 OK great ending I finished the game... but here's my question. When I start again do I start with all my weapons and items? I loaded my game, then started a big boss extreme game and I don't have any of my old guns/weapons... I just want to play with my toys I don't care about difficulty. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589511403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 OK great ending I finished the game... but here's my question. When I start again do I start with all my weapons and items? I loaded my game, then started a big boss extreme game and I don't have any of my old guns/weapons... I just want to play with my toys I don't care about difficulty. Yes, you start again with all your weapons and items. You have to meet Otacon in the Mk. II first before you get them back. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589511530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 OK great ending I finished the game... but here's my question. When I start again do I start with all my weapons and items? I loaded my game, then started a big boss extreme game and I don't have any of my old guns/weapons... I just want to play with my toys I don't care about difficulty. It TELLS you after you watch the ending what you have to do to get your weapons and items back. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589511550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 26, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted June 26, 2008 Good secrets walkthough video - http://n4g.com/ps3/News-161763.aspx Spoilers obviously. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589511905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 It TELLS you after you watch the ending what you have to do to get your weapons and items back. I went to go eat during the credits after the Snake/Big Boss scene. :p Thanks, MJ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589512338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D!ABOL!C Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I went to go eat during the credits after the Snake/Big Boss scene. :pThanks, MJ! Also, loaded your completed game save first, don't start a brand new game before you load it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589512649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted June 26, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 26, 2008 Finally beat it today :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589512991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEIST Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Also, loaded your completed game save first, don't start a brand new game before you load it. I learner that the hard way. My second run through the game was for nothing. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589513661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudEngineer Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 finished it today as well Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589513748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 omg. Just been playing for 4 hours this game is epic..... The intro sequence blew my mind, i love how all the cutscenes are in engine so when the cutscenes over the HUD fades in and the camera zooms to behind snake. I love how the game handles, seen a few bits that narked me one of them being the respawning PMCs after ive shot them and ran past, but other than that i LOVE it, well worth the 2 year wait. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589514417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Not ALL of the cut-scenes are in game, but I'd say about 95% of them are. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589514440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Shame i thought that was pretty cool how it was all seamless. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589514444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Most of it is uses the in-game engine. Cant remember any particular cut-scene that couldnt be done in-game. Im guess the many egg cooking scenes were pre-rendered. Wouldn't make sense designing the engine to perform that task. lol :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589514509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted June 27, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 27, 2008 How much further do I have/how many acts are there? Shadow Moses, Raiden just killed Vamp (for real), and I am in Rex breaking out... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589515390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 You've got one relatively short act left, but a LOT of cut-scene to go. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589515397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEIST Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 You've got one relatively short act left, but a LOT of cut-scene to go. Relative indeed. You can really stretch out the game by enganing in lengthy battles once you've amounted a nice weapon/ammo arsenal and DPs for ammo. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589515418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzO63 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Finished it earlier today..... Epic! :o I was watching the Epilogue but had to go to work so did'nt get to see it all before i turned it off. Gonna watch it all again in a little while.. then am gonna start my 2nd run through! :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589515597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 DirtyLarry, your at the best part of the entire game. (Y) I'm trying to download the update to play online but it just won't start...? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589515761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted June 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2008 Well lets see... Audioboxer kept saying he wanted to know my overall impressions once I beat the game being it would be from the perspective of someone who never played any other game in the series. So here it is, and I am warning people who get offended easily if someone critiques anything Sony related. My following thoughts at times are not going to be pretty to read, but it is what it is... Me telling the truth on how I fee about Metal Gear Solid 4. So. I beat the game. I apologize to anyone who may have read my comments earlier as I hope I did not influence anyone one way or the other with them, but I definitely jumped to conclusions earlier in this thread by saying it was possibly in the Top 5 games ever. I think I may even have said Top 3. It is more in the Top 25-50 games I have ever played. With that said, me even saying Top 25 is giving it extremely high praise. it all comes down to one thing. The cut scenes just went way overboard for me. Way overboard. I personally need to play more than 5 minutes in the last 90+ minutes (it may have even been 2 hours???) of a video game and not have the rest of the 85 minutes be a movie, but that of course is just me. That about sums up MGS4 for me. Great gameplay, but the overall game experience was way, way, way drawn out. Basically, I went into this game not being a fan of story heavy video games, then it almost changed my mind, easily the first half of the actual game itself drew me in like no other game had. I was a fan of story, a fan of cutscenes, etc. Then it eventually just got to be way to much, and absolutely solidified the fact I am not a big fan of story, and that is because I honestly enjoy playing games for the actual act of playing them. So honestly, the fact the story is what it is, and that is absolutely EPIC, that ironically brings the entire game down a whole lot of notches in my own book. I realize I may be old school in viewing things this way and the way forward for games is story lines like this, but the reason I personally play video games is to play them, not watch them. I did say earlier it was the Game Of The Year, and I still without a doubt believe it is. I know I sound like I did not enjoy it, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Just explaining why I did not absolutely love it like I first thought I would. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589516034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted June 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2008 Oh Yeah, since it is on my screen... Total Time - 59:27:54 (Remember, I paused a whole lot) Continues - 19 Alert Phases - 105 Kills - 589 Recovery Items Used - 62 Weapon Types Procured - 40 Flashbacks Watched - 104 Special Items - Not Used Total Bonus - 22,500 Current Drebin Points - 226,456 Confer the titled of... Eagle Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589516039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Im a massive MGS fan and i havent even completed Act 1 yet and the cutscenes are annoying me a little bit, there must be a better way of telling a story rather than 2 people on the screen and 1 person is telling the other person about a past event or story... Show me the goddamn story dont just sit there and have a character drone on about stuff. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589516291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 28, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted June 28, 2008 Well lets see...Audioboxer kept saying he wanted to know my overall impressions once I beat the game being it would be from the perspective of someone who never played any other game in the series. So here it is, and I am warning people who get offended easily if someone critiques anything Sony related. My following thoughts at times are not going to be pretty to read, but it is what it is... Me telling the truth on how I fee about Metal Gear Solid 4. So. I beat the game. I apologize to anyone who may have read my comments earlier as I hope I did not influence anyone one way or the other with them, but I definitely jumped to conclusions earlier in this thread by saying it was possibly in the Top 5 games ever. I think I may even have said Top 3. It is more in the Top 25-50 games I have ever played. With that said, me even saying Top 25 is giving it extremely high praise. it all comes down to one thing. The cut scenes just went way overboard for me. Way overboard. I personally need to play more than 5 minutes in the last 90+ minutes (it may have even been 2 hours???) of a video game and not have the rest of the 85 minutes be a movie, but that of course is just me. That about sums up MGS4 for me. Great gameplay, but the overall game experience was way, way, way drawn out. Basically, I went into this game not being a fan of story heavy video games, then it almost changed my mind, easily the first half of the actual game itself drew me in like no other game had. I was a fan of story, a fan of cutscenes, etc. Then it eventually just got to be way to much, and absolutely solidified the fact I am not a big fan of story, and that is because I honestly enjoy playing games for the actual act of playing them. So honestly, the fact the story is what it is, and that is absolutely EPIC, that ironically brings the entire game down a whole lot of notches in my own book. I realize I may be old school in viewing things this way and the way forward for games is story lines like this, but the reason I personally play video games is to play them, not watch them. I did say earlier it was the Game Of The Year, and I still without a doubt believe it is. I know I sound like I did not enjoy it, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Just explaining why I did not absolutely love it like I first thought I would. Good read (Y) I do think a lot of stuff could've been clipped in the bud a little earlier, but I guess it's a downside of Kojima going all out to try and bring closure to every little part of Solid Snake's story. Some things could've been left unexplained I suppose - But then on the flipside you'd have people complaining they weren't. LOL at your playtime, you noob :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589516585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzO63 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 OMG at the ending! :o I was convinced that Snake was going to die at the end.. if your reading this Kojima, Snake's got at least one more game left in him yet! haha :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589516964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted June 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2008 I agree with the extremely long ending cut scene. Kojima should have trimmed it a bit but on the flip side, this is the closing game of the series so it is only fitting to have an ending of sorts to explain everything that was left unanswered. Still, he could have managed to make it shorter. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/78/#findComment-589517380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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