Corris Veteran Posted June 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 16, 2008 I loved the way they introduced Big Boss. His name shows up in the credits with his voice actor and I was like 'Wait a minute... Big Boss isn't in it?... Or... Whoa!. biggrin.gif Exactly what was going through my head at the time, was awesome. ^Yeah I was exactly the same on the second spoiler .... :| Same here. That really rounded the game off for me just perfectly. Knowing Snake survived the whole game made it far better to play though again, if he died I would of been bummed out about playing through again, and seeing big boss and snake, was just awesome. What really got me about how the story has been thought through since the first is when it was mentioned that Donald Anderson, The Darpa Chief, was actually Sigint from MGS3, it was just great to see thigns thath there were no questions about that were then brought in again and just amkes you go "oooohhhhhh". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589485804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Same here.That really rounded the game off for me just perfectly. Knowing Snake survived the whole game made it far better to play though again, if he died I would of been bummed out about playing through again, and seeing big boss and snake, was just awesome. What really got me about how the story has been thought through since the first is when it was mentioned that Donald Anderson, The Darpa Chief, was actually Sigint from MGS3, it was just great to see thigns thath there were no questions about that were then brought in again and just amkes you go "oooohhhhhh". He is?! Thing is, I got the game at midnight and played it for 9 hours straight, I probably missed a couple things :p -Rich- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589485810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted June 16, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted June 16, 2008 You missed that? It was mentioned a few times. You have to mash the X button when he's brought up though - that makes it much clearer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589485819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+shift. MVC Posted June 16, 2008 MVC Share Posted June 16, 2008 That last credit brought chills down my spine. No joke... Yeah, they really tied up the loose ends well in this last game. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589485821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Big Mama mentions it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589485822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Oh right, well at that point I was approaching 8 hours or so, and actually drifting to sleep :laugh: -Rich- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589485831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+shift. MVC Posted June 16, 2008 MVC Share Posted June 16, 2008 I played this game for the entire 18 hours straight that we needed to finish it. I think we took a lot longer than most people though. What were your play times? We were trying to go through it as fast as possible too, probably got a bit reckless in some parts. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589485878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duntkno Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 well i like it, i'm on act 2. the graphics are beautiful, i like the cut scene parts, the game play is nice, i like, reminiscent of mtg1 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589485974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted June 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 16, 2008 This game is EPIC. I'm on Act.5 after Screaming Mantis Fight. That is an awesome boss fight. The game so far is pure awesomeness, Hideo Kojima is a genius. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589485983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoJD Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 This game is EPIC. I'm on Act.5 after Screaming Mantis Fight. That is an awesome boss fight. The game so far is pure awesomeness, Hideo Kojima is a genius. Get ready to smash the triangle button like there's no tomorrow.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589485989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted June 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 16, 2008 I was just speaking to someone today about this games and they wanted to know if it was worth playing. I asked if they played any other MGS games then maybe but if they haven't played any then it isn't worth it. This game is pure fan service really because gameplay wise... there was none. It was so heavily story driven that unless you played the others you would have no idea what was going on. I may be stating the obvious but that's what i think. Graphically, one word. Unbelievable. Hands down best looking game around. I still feel however the PS3 has so much more potential graphically. Roll up Heavy Rain. Besides the graphics comment, as I also believe it s hands down the best looking game around, I could not disagree with you more. As I have already stated several times in this thread, I never played a single MG game before this one. I watched the retrospective on gametrailers (which definitely helped a ton), I watched my one friend play all of the games when they were released, and again I could not disagree with you more, I definitely think someone who was not a fan can thoroughly enjoy this game. In fact it can make them a fan, just as it has done for me. So as outlined above I am not an "old fan" so to speak, and I am enjoying absolutely every single second of this game. Every single one. I also really am not sure what you mean by there is no gameplay??? If there is no gameplay than I am confused and really am not sure what I have been doing the past 4 hours??? Granted there has maybe been almost 30 minutes of cut-scenes, but the other 3 and a half hours I have been playing, so that means gameplay to me no? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex566 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 The game is amazing. Without a doubt it is the best game I have played since Final Fantasy 7 over ten years ago. I think someone on here as already said that there are better looking games around and yes some games do have better gameplay then MGS4. What I think makes MGS4 so special is the whole package. Hideo Kojima has put so much work into this you can really tell this as well. When you are on Shadow Moses, on the heliport and The Best Is Yet To Come plays. Did anyone else almost have a fit? It's not a 10/10 as no game is but I don't thing scoring this game out of ten is fair anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 The game is amazing. Without a doubt it is the best game I have played since Final Fantasy 7 over ten years ago. I think someone on here as already said that there are better looking games around and yes some games do have better gameplay then MGS4.What I think makes MGS4 so special is the whole package. Hideo Kojima has put so much work into this you can really tell this as well. When you are on Shadow Moses, on the heliport and The Best Is Yet To Come plays. Did anyone else almost have a fit? It's not a 10/10 as no game is but I don't thing scoring this game out of ten is fair anyway. I think it is a 10/10 game. If Halo/GTA4 etc can get 10's then this should as well. Why Eurogamer only gave it an 8 is beyond me! Then they wonder why people think that gaming journalists have something against the PS3 :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-scratch Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 i cant wait to play this game be in the next couple weeks :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Does anyone know if it's possible to hold up those female soldiers? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Does anyone know if it's possible to hold up those female soldiers? It's possible. I held one up in Act 5. Just don't search them after you've held them up. You know what happens when you hold up a male soldier. It ends with the crotch grab, then the guy faints. When you do it to a female soldier, they kick you to the ground! :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I'm loving MGS4, currently in Act 4 and loving every second of it :happy: although I'm getting my arse kicked by the suicide gekos at the moment, I manage to survive the first wave and the second wave gets me *arg!* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 ^^^ 3-4 shots of the rail gun to the head (barely charged) should do it ;) -Rich- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+shift. MVC Posted June 16, 2008 MVC Share Posted June 16, 2008 Or one fully charged shot anywhere on the Gekko Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Or one full charged shot to the head ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I know that, but that's what I'm guessing is getting him killed, waiting for it to charge, could be too late by then :p -Rich- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Thanks for the tips guys :happy: I know that, but that's what I'm guessing is getting him killed, waiting for it to charge, could be too late by then :p -Rich- Well actually what is getting me killed is 2 things, running out of ammo and getting overwhelmed :p I can get past the first wave ok now, it's the second one that does me in...they all come in at once and self destruct [at once] and I can't destroy them all in time...getting frustrating! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 You do realise you can buy ammo from Drebin's shop, instantly, right? :s -Rich- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 You do realise you can buy ammo from Drebin's shop, instantly, right? :s -Rich- Yeah, I kinda wasted all my Drebin points getting more ammo to kill Vamp....till I found out how easy it actually was to kill him :p might need to go back to an earlier save game... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I'm having issues getting to grips with the CQC techniques. Whenever I initiate a grab from behind a soldier, Snake will throw them to the ground, resulting in a KO, without me even pressing anything. I can't seem to just grab hold of a guard and use some of the other moves. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622740-metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots-discussion-thread/page/62/#findComment-589486717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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