Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Discussion Thread

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Grand Master

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You said you can't rent MGS4 till 2009.

Did you mean buy? :p

The pages of my manual are sticky. :ninja:

Seems Sethos understood what I said :whistle:

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Seems Sethos understood what I said :whistle:

I'll go put my dunce hat on, and sit in the corner....

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I don't get why so many people are bitching about MGS's cut scenes.

I know they go on for a bit, but come on - ALL of the MGS games are the same!

It seems that most of the complainers just get caught in the hype for the game and IGNORE ALL THE WARNINGS that it contains lots of long cut-scenes.

Some of us absolutely love them and if anything can be said about this game it's that it was made for the fans, so really, what did they expect?

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Probably due to the higher scoring of MGS4.

No MGS game till this one has received the praise/notice that 4 has.

That's bound to bring out more of the jokers/haters.

Cutscene length jokes are funny to start off with, but when FoxNews joins the party

With some lengthy interstitials lasting 30 minutes — and an epilogue that clocks in at nearly an hour — the footage, always a "Metal Gear Solid" staple, begs the question: Why didn't creator Hideo Kojima just make a movie this time around!?
Worst of all, newcomers are likely to find themselves completely lost in the wordy dialogue and plots folded in from previous "Metal Gear Solid" games.

Anyone with a brain would tell you joining a series on the 4th instalment is not going to help you out *facepalm*.

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369561...ech/videogaming

You're like :blink: WTF, shutup.

Whenever FoxNews covers anything gaming, you just want to staple your nuts together (remember hardcore porn in ME?).

It's almost as if people are trying to say MGS4 should be a casual game and appeal to casual gamers for the sake of it. It was never meant to be that, nor does anyone want it to be.

Buy hey, casual games are all the rage, so maybe some of the journalists out there can't handle anything that doesn't involve swinging a remote, or pushing one button to win the whole game.

It's one game out of thousands/millions of games out there, aren't we allowed ONE game like that in the gaming world with lengthy cutscenes without people going mental...?!

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Just a quick question, doing the no alert no kills on easy, is there a way to find out if you killed anyone, other than completing the act? It would be kinda annoying if I got one kill and not knowing where it was.

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I don't understand what they show when you first start the game... that television broadcast channels or whatever it is its ****ing scary. I thought something was wrong with my game at first.

The game is very difficult, I must admit.

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I don't understand what they show when you first start the game... that television broadcast channels or whatever it is its ****ing scary. I thought something was wrong with my game at first.

The game is very difficult, I must admit.

You can watch all the advertisements if you just let your game idle on the main menu without pressing start. They are each propaganda advertisements for the PMC units.

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I don't understand what they show when you first start the game... that television broadcast channels or whatever it is its ****ing scary. I thought something was wrong with my game at first.

The game is very difficult, I must admit.

I thought my game was messed up too. I kept pressing x and start and nothing happened so I pressed video source on my remote thinking I was watching TV and I wasn't :laugh:

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ROFL @ Fox News.... American "news" TV is ridiculous in general, but Fox is their brainless overlord. And yep, anyone joining a series in its fourth installment and then complaining abotu not understanding most of it needs to be hit with the logic hammer.

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Just a quick question, doing the no alert no kills on easy, is there a way to find out if you killed anyone, other than completing the act? It would be kinda annoying if I got one kill and not knowing where it was.

I think if you go to mission briefing in the main menu and load your game and go to a briefing, it will show you your stats in an orange bar during the scene. I read that somewhere.

I know that you can see the bar in mission briefing once you finish an act but I haven't tried the main menu/load method.

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I think if you go to mission briefing in the main menu and load your game and go to a briefing, it will show you your stats in an orange bar during the scene. I read that somewhere.

I know that you can see the bar in mission briefing once you finish an act but I haven't tried the main menu/load method.

Thanks for the info. I'll give that a shot when I play again. Finished Act 1 no kills no alerts. It's kinda fun, a lesson in patience, there were many a restart I assure you heh.

I also have a question about alerts. Is an alert when the alert sound is made or when the counter pops up? I have had two instances where I popped someone with the Mosin Nagant and the alert sound was made, but they dropped instantly. To be safe, I restarted. Is the alert sound alone considered an alert?

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I don't understand what they show when you first start the game... that television broadcast channels or whatever it is its ****ing scary. I thought something was wrong with my game at first.

The game is very difficult, I must admit.

Same happen to me at first. I honestly was wondering if I somehow did not realize the game came with two disks or something. Especially in those opening sequences, that game show movie is incredibly trippy with all of the graphics spinning around the player and the host on the platform. It definitely gives the vibe of creating a very disorienting state. Now it totally makes sense it is propaganda, did not realize until reading it right now. And I could not help but like hearing my name Larry in it, even if it was the stupid husband of the women on the game show.

And indeed, the game is definitely very difficult at times. Ironically, so far the easiest part of the game for me was the first boss battle.

Just curious, are you a new player to the series itself like I am? I think being a MGS noob has a lot to do with making it harder than it probably would be otherwise.

I have lived in my house now for 7 months, and I finally earlier tonight went out and bought 100 ft of speaker wire and ran it to get my surround sound rear speakers hooked up. They were hooked up before this, but all 5 speakers (2 Fronts, 2 Rears, and Center) were all on my entertainment center in the front. I was really lazy about it but it all, but for good reason as it was indeed a project and I am still not done.

Truth is, I literally HAD to do get my rear speakers hooked up once hearing the amazing sound on this game. (I also know Battlefield Bad Company has some amazing sound too which I plan on getting late next week)

So I am looking over on the couch, and my wife looks to be sound asleep as she usually does right about now on a Friday night, so before I pass out as well as I am also tired, I am hoping to give my new and improved surround sound a go with some MGS4. :yes:

If not tomorrow, for sure.

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Yeah Larry, surprisingly enough this is the first MGS I've owned. I've played older versions once or twice on PS1 and that's about it. I'm at the start of Act 2 now, so far I love it! I found the best way to move along the battlefield is to shoot the guys with the silent pistol that makes them sleep. :)

I'm trying to get a hold of a a/v cable so I can connect my PS3 to my audio system because at the moment I have my Ps3 connected to my TV via HDMI aka not real surround sound.

Stupid audio system that has no optical or HDMI inputs. :(

The only downside is I wish I knew the history about whats going on, like Vamp, I have no idea what or who he is, but clearly Snake has history with him. Same with Liquid. I need to do some reading!

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I have all the cut scenes from all the MGS games (MGS1-3) that were on a torrent in a MGS4 thread in this forum. I watched all the cut scenes even though I played all 3 games in order to catch up and I Must say, it did help.

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If you buy the Mosin Nagant you can use the laughing, rage, screaming or crying rounds. Loads of fun I tell you leaving an entire army of soldiers laughing. :p
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MGS4 - 2nd Highest scoring console exclusive (This Gen)

MGS4 recently cracked the 95/100 mark on Metacritic. Making MGS4 the 2nd highest scoring console exclusive(This Gen).

The highest scoring console exclusive is held by 'Super Mario Galaxy' at 97/100.

With this, MGS4 now has higher scores than,

1) Gears of war (94/100)

2) Halo 3 (94/100)

3) Super Smash Bros. Brawl (94/100)

This also makes it higher than 'Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare' which scored 94/100.

'Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, The' has the same score as MGS4, thus sharing the spot as the 2nd highest scoring console exclusive.

Grand Theft Auto IV currently is the highest scoring game with 98/100.

Source: http://n4g.com/gaming/News-160100.aspx

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I'm going through it trying not to get any kills or alerts. Got to the end of act 2 and seen i had one kill, got absolutely NO idea where it came from, either!

It's really ****ing me off, there's a few times when I've done something like tranq a guard, go to pick up his weapon and accidentally set off a claymore, killing him. No indication if that's added to my kill at all, so I just restarted just in case and yet I STILL ended up with a kill >_<

Another time something similar happened was when I was fighting Octopus and she disguised herself as the MK II. I gave chase and ran straight into a claymore, killing one of the frogs that was slumbering just beside it >_<.

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