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Windows Home Server Connector


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Today i picked up a Hp Mediasmart EX470 500 GB. Setup did not last long, installation software from HP included WHS Connector. The discovery process has produced an error. I did a lot of reading for the past few hours as i did try google. From the information i have found, leap year (feb. 29) created this same issue with people running the discovery dure to a clock sync problem. Now that that time has pass i still have this probelm. The error is not secific "This operation cannot be complte at this time try again later". I have read the Microsoft help suggetions, factory reset, turnd off firewalls (windows and router), router firmware update as well as unplugging all other network devices/restarting.I have a feeling it has something to do with my router, D-link dir-655 Gigabit N.

I have searched everywhere for a solution.

Help! plz!

ps. the lights on the front are blue and purple and i can ping the server from my pc. Vista home premium sp1

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im getting this in my routers firewall log

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 02:03:53 2008 Allowed configuration authentication by IP address 192.168.0.103

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 01:57:25 2008 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 221.208.208.93:51158 to 70.64.159.252:1026

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 01:57:25 2008 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 221.208.208.93:51157 to 70.64.159.252:1027

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 01:57:25 2008 Blocked incoming UDP packet from 221.208.208.93:51157 to 70.64.159.252:1026

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 01:54:31 2008 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 70.64.12.100:3556 to 70.64.159.252:1433

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 01:54:29 2008 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 70.64.12.100:3256 to 70.64.159.252:139

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 01:51:27 2008 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 70.64.154.165:2402 to 70.64.159.252:1433

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 01:51:25 2008 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 70.64.154.165:2402 to 70.64.159.252:139

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 01:48:48 2008 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 70.64.12.100:1709 to 70.64.159.252:1433

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 01:48:46 2008 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 70.64.12.100:1442 to 70.64.159.252:139

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 01:48:32 2008 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 219.140.196.182:6000 to 70.64.159.252:2967

I tried to connect with WHS Connector a few times in this period.

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More Firewall log

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 03:44:41 2008 Allowed configuration authentication by IP address 192.168.0.103

[WARN] Wed Mar 05 03:42:04 2008 A network computer (HPSERVER) was assigned the IP address of 192.168.0.195.

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 03:27:00 2008 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 70.64.12.247:1969 to 70.64.159.252:139

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 03:21:41 2008 Blocked incoming TCP packet from 15.216.110.22:80 to 70.64.159.252:50315 with unexpected sequence 293244645 (expected 0 to 32768)

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 03:21:35 2008 Blocked incoming TCP packet from 15.216.110.22:80 to 70.64.159.252:50315 with unexpected sequence 3903144176 (expected 0 to 32768)

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 03:21:32 2008 Blocked incoming TCP packet from 15.216.110.22:80 to 70.64.159.252:50315 with unexpected sequence 698063054 (expected 0 to 32768)

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 03:21:16 2008 Administrator logout

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 03:18:40 2008 Blocked incoming TCP connection request from 75.17.55.169:35014 to 70.64.159.252:5900

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 03:18:31 2008 Above message repeated 2 times

[iNFO] Wed Mar 05 03:14:23 2008 UPnP deleted entry 255.255.255.255 <-> 70.64.159.252:42193 TCP

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I made have figured out what it could be...i have my services set to Blackvipers SAFE Settings. What services are required to run WHS Connect???

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Most likely it's a firewall error when I was in the WHS beta trying to get WHS to cooperate with my routers firewall and somewhat with the windows firewall. I'm guessing the discovery error you had was something related to UPNP which WHS uses to try to auto configurate your windows firewall and your routers firewall. It wall add port forwarding settings so you can access your WHS box from the internet. Check your router to be sure UPNP is enabled also check your services to see if the UPNP service is stopped.

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The entry in your logs have NOTHING to do with your issue -- nothing!

Most soho router do not firewall lan to lan connections. Only wan to lan. So I highly doubt your routers firewall has anything to do with your issue. I would have to check that one to be sure.. but those entries in the logs you posted have NOTHING to do with lan to lan traffic.. An is simple typical internet noise..

edit: From a quick look at the emulator for the dir-655 I see no seetings for lan to lan firewalling.. Its firewall settings are basic to be sure..

http://www.support.dlink.com/emulators/dir655/Firewall.html

Also you have no need of UPnP for WHS to function correctly on your lan..

As to what services are required for the connector to work.. What services have you disabled??

either dump your services using SC, or grab the free tool from joeware

http://www.joeware.net/freetools/tools/svcutil/index.htm

Dump your services using

C:\>svcutil . viewx >c:\svclist.txt

to a text file.. an post it here so we can have a look what you have turned off. It will produce an output like this

SvcUtil V02.04.00cpp  Joe Richards (joe@joeware.net) June 2005

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Service list for LocalHost
-------------------------------------------------
Alerter				   Alerter									stopped	DISABLED   NT AUTHORITY\LocalService
ALG					   Application Layer Gateway Service		  running	MANUAL	 NT AUTHORITY\LocalService
AppMgmt				   Application Management					 stopped	MANUAL	 LocalSystem
aspnet_state			  ASP.NET State Service					  stopped	MANUAL	 NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService
AudioSrv				  Windows Audio							  running	AUTO	   LocalSystem
BITS					  Background Intelligent Transfer Service	running	AUTO	   LocalSystem
Browser				   Computer Browser						   stopped	MANUAL	 LocalSystem
&lt;snipped&gt;

Can you access file shares on other computers on your network?

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I cannot get that tool to work, flashes on my screen for like a tenth of a second, trying to screen grab my disabled services but i can get print screen/paste to work. All i can say is check here and see what i have disabled. Thanks for your help Budman. I got HP working on my problem to, sent the a error report and now im witing for a call back. I don't have any other computers on my network. Just a 360 elite and a ps3. and they work as media servers.

edit: for some reason i don't have the snippet tool on my vista home premium.

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to run that tool you need to be in a command prompt first.. you can not just use run an expect to see anything..

But since your dumping the output to a file.. that file should of been created anyway..

I just verified that the tool works fine on vista fine..

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Got to a command prompt first, before you type in the command I gave ;)

windowskey+R then cmd, hit enter ;)

Get a pretty black box where you can do all kinds of magic ;)

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SvcUtil V02.04.00cpp Joe Richards (joe@joeware.net) June 2005

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Service list for LocalHost

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AeLookupSvc Application Experience stopped DISABLED localSystem

ALG Application Layer Gateway Service stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

Appinfo Application Information running MANUAL LocalSystem

Apple Mobile Device Apple Mobile Device running AUTO LocalSystem

ASBroker Logon Session Broker running AUTO LocalSystem

ASChannel Local Communication Channel running AUTO LocalSystem

AudioEndpointBuilder Windows Audio Endpoint Builder running AUTO LocalSystem

Audiosrv Windows Audio running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

Avg7Alrt AVG7 Alert Manager Server running AUTO LocalSystem

Avg7UpdSvc AVG7 Update Service running AUTO LocalSystem

AvgCoreSvc AVG7 Resident Shield Service running AUTO LocalSystem

BFE Base Filtering Engine running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

BITS Background Intelligent Transfer Service running AUTO LocalSystem

Bonjour Service ##Id_String1.6844F930_1628_4223_B5CC_5BB94 running AUTO LocalSystem

Browser Computer Browser running AUTO LocalSystem

BthServ Bluetooth Support Service running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

CertPropSvc Certificate Propagation stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

CLCapSvc CyberLink Background Capture Service (CBCS stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

clr_optimization_v2.0.507 Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v2.0.50727_X stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

CLSched CyberLink Task Scheduler (CTS) stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

COMSysApp COM+ System Application stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

CryptSvc Cryptographic Services running AUTO NT Authority\NetworkService

DcomLaunch DCOM Server Process Launcher running BOOT (null)

Dhcp DHCP Client running AUTO NT Authority\LocalService

Dnscache DNS Client running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

dot3svc Wired AutoConfig stopped DISABLED localSystem

DPS Diagnostic Policy Service running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

EapHost Extensible Authentication Protocol running MANUAL localSystem

ehRecvr Windows Media Center Receiver Service stopped MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\networkService

ehSched Windows Media Center Scheduler Service stopped MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\networkService

ehstart Windows Media Center Service Launcher stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

EMDMgmt ReadyBoost running AUTO LocalSystem

Eventlog Windows Event Log running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

EventSystem COM+ Event System running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

fdPHost Function Discovery Provider Host running MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

FDResPub Function Discovery Resource Publication stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

FLEXnet Licensing Service FLEXnet Licensing Service stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

FontCache3.0.0.0 Windows Presentation Foundation Font Cache stopped MANUAL NT Authority\LocalService

gpsvc Group Policy Client running AUTO LocalSystem

hidserv Human Interface Device Access running AUTO LocalSystem

hkmsvc Health Key and Certificate Management stopped DISABLED localSystem

HP Health Check Service HP Health Check Service stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

hpqwmiex hpqwmiex stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

IAANTMON Intel® Matrix Storage Event Monitor running AUTO LocalSystem

IDriverT InstallDriver Table Manager stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

idsvc Windows CardSpace stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

IKEEXT IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

IPBusEnum PnP-X IP Bus Enumerator running AUTO LocalSystem

iphlpsvc IP Helper stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

iPod Service iPod Service stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

KeyIso CNG Key Isolation running MANUAL LocalSystem

KtmRm KtmRm for Distributed Transaction Coordina stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

LanmanServer Server running AUTO LocalSystem

LanmanWorkstation Workstation running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

LBTServ Logitech Bluetooth Service stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

LightScribeService LightScribeService Direct Disc Labeling Se running AUTO LocalSystem

lltdsvc Link-Layer Topology Discovery Mapper stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

lmhosts TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

Mcx2Svc Windows Media Center Extender Service running AUTO NT Authority\LocalService

Microsoft Office Groove A Microsoft Office Groove Audit Service stopped MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

MMCSS Multimedia Class Scheduler running AUTO LocalSystem

MpsSvc Windows Firewall running AUTO NT Authority\LocalService

MSDTC Distributed Transaction Coordinator stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

MSiSCSI Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Service stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

msiserver Windows Installer stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

napagent Network Access Protection Agent stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

Nero BackItUp Scheduler 3 Nero BackItUp Scheduler 3 stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

Netlogon Netlogon stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

Netman Network Connections running MANUAL LocalSystem

netprofm Network List Service running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

NetTcpPortSharing Net.Tcp Port Sharing Service stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

NlaSvc Network Location Awareness running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

NMIndexingService NMIndexingService stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

nsi Network Store Interface Service running AUTO NT Authority\LocalService

odserv Microsoft Office Diagnostics Service stopped BOOT (null)

ose Office Source Engine stopped BOOT (null)

p2pimsvc Peer Networking Identity Manager stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

p2psvc Peer Networking Grouping stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

PcaSvc Program Compatibility Assistant Service running AUTO LocalSystem

PDAgent PDAgent running AUTO LocalSystem

PDEngine PDEngine running MANUAL LocalSystem

pla Performance Logs & Alerts stopped BOOT (null)

PlugPlay Plug and Play running AUTO LocalSystem

PNRPAutoReg PNRP Machine Name Publication Service stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

PNRPsvc Peer Name Resolution Protocol stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

PolicyAgent IPsec Policy Agent stopped DISABLED NT Authority\NetworkService

ProfSvc User Profile Service running AUTO LocalSystem

ProtectedStorage Protected Storage stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

QWAVE Quality Windows Audio Video Experience stopped BOOT (null)

RasAuto Remote Access Auto Connection Manager stopped MANUAL localSystem

RasMan Remote Access Connection Manager running MANUAL localSystem

RemoteAccess Routing and Remote Access stopped DISABLED localSystem

RemoteRegistry Remote Registry stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

RpcLocator Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator stopped MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

RpcSs Remote Procedure Call (RPC) running BOOT (null)

SamSs Security Accounts Manager running AUTO LocalSystem

SCardSvr Smart Card stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

Schedule Task Scheduler running AUTO LocalSystem

SCPolicySvc Smart Card Removal Policy stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

SDRSVC Windows Backup stopped MANUAL localSystem

seclogon Secondary Logon running AUTO LocalSystem

SENS System Event Notification Service running AUTO LocalSystem

SessionEnv Terminal Services Configuration running MANUAL localSystem

SharedAccess Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

ShellHWDetection Shell Hardware Detection running AUTO LocalSystem

slsvc Software Licensing running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

SLUINotify SL UI Notification Service stopped MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

SNMPTRAP SNMP Trap stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

Spooler Print Spooler running AUTO LocalSystem

SSDPSRV SSDP Discovery running MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

SstpSvc Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service running MANUAL NT Authority\LocalService

Steam Client Service Steam Client Service stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

stisvc Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) stopped DISABLED NT Authority\LocalService

stllssvr stllssvr stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

swprv Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

SysMain Superfetch running AUTO LocalSystem

TabletInputService Tablet PC Input Service stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

TapiSrv Telephony running MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

TBS TPM Base Services stopped AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

TermService Terminal Services running AUTO NT Authority\NetworkService

Themes Themes running AUTO LocalSystem

THREADORDER Thread Ordering Server stopped MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

TrkWks Distributed Link Tracking Client stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

TrustedInstaller Windows Modules Installer stopped MANUAL localSystem

UI0Detect Interactive Services Detection stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

upnphost UPnP Device Host running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

usnjsvc Messenger Sharing Folders USN Journal Read running MANUAL LocalSystem

UxSms Desktop Window Manager Session Manager running AUTO localSystem

vds Virtual Disk stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

VSS Volume Shadow Copy stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

W32Time Windows Time running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

wcncsvc Windows Connect Now - Config Registrar stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

WcsPlugInService Windows Color System stopped MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

WdiServiceHost Diagnostic Service Host stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

WdiSystemHost Diagnostic System Host stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

WebClient WebClient stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

Wecsvc Windows Event Collector stopped MANUAL NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

wercplsupport Problem Reports and Solutions Control Pane stopped DISABLED localSystem

WerSvc Windows Error Reporting Service stopped DISABLED localSystem

WinDefend Windows Defender running AUTO LocalSystem

WinHttpAutoProxySvc WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

Winmgmt Windows Management Instrumentation running AUTO localSystem

WinRM Windows Remote Management (WS-Management) stopped DISABLED NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

Wlansvc WLAN AutoConfig running AUTO LocalSystem

WLSetupSvc Windows Live Setup Service stopped MANUAL LocalSystem

wmiApSrv WMI Performance Adapter stopped MANUAL localSystem

WMPNetworkSvc Windows Media Player Network Sharing Servi running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService

WPCSvc Parental Controls stopped DISABLED NT Authority\LocalService

WPDBusEnum Portable Device Enumerator Service stopped DISABLED LocalSystem

wscsvc Security Center running AUTO NT AUTHORITY\LocalService

WSearch Windows Search running AUTO LocalSystem

wuauserv Windows Update running AUTO LocalSystem

wudfsvc Windows Driver Foundation - User-mode Driv running AUTO LocalSystem

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Well I have WHS running at home, an have a vista machine I can play with.. So I can take a look at what you have not runnnig/disabled/etc. an see for starters if I can duplicate your problem.

I'll try and play with it tonight -- but lost is on ;)

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omg thanks for reminding me about LOST, almost forgot! So you have a good excuse for taking your time, i cant be mad lolz.

EDIT: btw HP tech had me disable SPI and QoS on my router. In case that could equate to your testing.

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In Internet Explorer open your Internet Options and in your LAN settings make sure "Automatically detect settings" is unchecked. I don't know why but this has to be unchecked for you to connect properly.

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OMG!!!! THAT WORKED!!! all these error logs, upnp this, QOS that, firewall this, services that and all i have to do was un check that box!!! I'm over in Saskatoon teriba, if your ever in town im buying you a 24!

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I will try an install to my vista machine tonight -- If you are not running a proxy on your network.. autodetect should return nothing.. Only if there was a proxy running on your network should that setting have any effect.

But I am fairly sure that it installed to my kids laptop running vista just fine.. An since we do not use IE.. that setting more than likely was/still is set to autodetect.

But here is tiny bit of info that mentions it

http://mswhs.com/2007/06/26/update-whs-cli...or-join-issues/

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I just shot over some mkv files via copy/paste to the server and got around 3MB/s wireless. I was expecting around 12MB/s. Is this the proper way to transfer files to the server, i'm still a first time user of WHS, there sure isnt much to it for taking up 20GB . Why doesn't the WHS interface support clear type?...the text it all jagged.

EDIT: I cannot get a network map. Windows cannot start mapping on the adapter...how do i fix this?

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"I don't have any other computers on my network"

Ummm what exactly do you expect to MAP?? :rofl:

Where would you have gotten the idea that you should be seeing 12MB/s ??? Usable bandwidth on a G network is only about 23-4Mbits tops.. Now do a rough /8 to give Bytes an your looking at about 3 MB/s If that is what your seeing your pretty much maxed out for 802.11G.. You stated your using a N router -- what about your wireless card? Is it N? What does it show you for your connection speed? Is the WHS server wireless? Is it N as well? Even at N speeds, doubt you would see 12MB/s file copies -- sorry! You would have to be well over 100mbit connection to see those kinds of speeds.. Even a wired 100mbit normally you will only see about 9-10 MBytes per seconds. Move to wired Gig if you want those kinds of transfer speeds.

Its quite possible if you are not using WPA2 you might not be able to get a N connection, even if both router an card support it.. There was just a thread about that recently.

if you want to transfer files to your WHS as fast as possible -- use a wire, that router of yours states its switch ports are GIG. Then your bottle neck would more than likely be your hard drives vs wire. Then your going to be in the 20 to 30MBytes per second most likely.

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The Server is wired, my network card is an Intel Wireless Wifi Link 4965AGN connected mode 11ng at a rate of 130Mbps, WPA2. I do know that a wired connection would be faster, tried it and it was steadey at 9ishMbps. Did 2 different file transfers wirelessly, first was at 3mbps second was hovering around 1.3Mbps.

As for the network mapping, i figured i would at least be able to map my router, pc, server, ps3, and 360.

BTW, how do i move files from my 360 and ps3 to my server?

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also wondering about remote streaming, is that a feature of this server? I had a buddy download a file off my server, got 22.7kbps which i thought was slow but could stream audio. maybe video with some tweaking.

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Um where are you looking for a network map exactly.. WHS does not have any network mapping feature?? Do you mean on Vista?

Why do you think it should show any of that stuff, do all of those devices/OS support the LLTD protocol?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120

Network Map in Windows Vista does not display computers that are running Windows XP

Windows Vista includes the software components that implement the LLTD protocol. For other devices on the network to be displayed on the map, they must enable a discovery protocol that can respond to the mapping requests from the Windows Vista-based computer.

This is what your looking wanting?

post-14624-1204998864_thumb.jpg

Notice it can not place any of the machine not running LLTD, p4-24g is an XP box - but I installed the responder for testing.. It is missing my tivo, slingbox, it is missing my network printer, its missing a shared printer off the kidsdell, etc.. etc.. The sean-pc that it shows is my sons vista laptop.. If it was running xp I highly doubt it would of placed the wireless accesspoint on their either.

Not sure what exactly this eye candy is suppose to do for the user?? Lets say you have even 20 devices.. What you can not figure out that they are all connected to your switch(es) an or wireless router/accesspoint?

To be honest I don't see how the home network has any use for this type of eye candy.. Most any user that would even want to look at this is going to be on a flat network, ie one segment.. With maybe a router, switch an accesspoint.

What exactly is the point of the map??? What to show you your computer is connected to your switch, which is then connected to your router. :rolleyes: Come On -- your kidding you need a map to figure that out ;)

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It was the fact that it did not work made me interested in getting it working, just for my own benefit, no real reason. But now i see that it does not provide any real information...Now i i could get those files working on my ps3....i would be happy. I have no idea why they worked on my vista laptop as a media server and not my media server as a media server. Mp3s work great, skipping tracks is instant thats to the wirded connection, but geeez, all my divx and television show are corrupt, please! ;)

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