instant.human Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 You do not have to play against every single team in europe to be in top 4. thats right. but without having played against a team, you dont know if you couldve beat it. simple as that. even the most obvious games may turn out surprising. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfista Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 you are ALL falling into my baits... darn the level of our ideas and thougs are different. Though i must admit mine are a bit higher than yours :) not that you only have very "dark ages" thought of football. after euro 2008 i will be following the posts you write in other threads... i am sure "dark ages" thoughts will also continue. The entire forum i just said turkey is better than switzerland.. i was called arrogant than said turkey is better than czech and we would definitely beat and also said turkey is better than croatia and we would kick their butt than i was again called arrogant. these things i said are my beliefs to my team.. they turned out to be correct... than you use the word "arrogant" just do defend your lack of football knowledge and dissaapointment. atleast 100 people in this forum might say that.. BUT 100 people is not necessarily right and 1 person might just be way better than 100 thoughts. :) and so far.. I am that 1 person. this is not arrogance. this is FACT... does this forum have +21 threads where i can actually contribute? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
profets Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 you are ALL falling into my baits... darn the level of our ideas and thougs are different. Though i must admit mine are a bit higher than yours :)not that you only have very "dark ages" thought of football. after euro 2008 i will be following the posts you write in other threads... i am sure "dark ages" thoughts will also continue. The entire forum i just said turkey is better than switzerland.. i was called arrogant than said turkey is better than czech and we would definitely beat and also said turkey is better than croatia and we would kick their butt than i was again called arrogant. these things i said are my beliefs to my team.. they turned out to be correct... than you use the word "arrogant" just do defend your lack of football knowledge and dissaapointment. atleast 100 people in this forum might say that.. BUT 100 people is not necessarily right and 1 person might just be way better than 100 thoughts. :) and so far.. I am that 1 person. this is not arrogance. this is FACT... does this forum have +21 threads where i can actually contribute? dont worry about it Alfista, i agree with you. in soccer any team can win. i dont understand why people dont take turkey more seriously. they beat croatia, who beat germany. so on wed anything can happen. i really wont be surprised if turkey wins. anyway, dont waste your time listening to all these people. lets see what happens on wednesday and enjoy the game Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfista Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 dont worry about it Alfista, i agree with you. in soccer any team can win. i dont understand why people dont take turkey more seriously. they beat croatia, who beat germany. so on wed anything can happen. i really wont be surprised if turkey wins.anyway, dont waste your time listening to all these people. lets see what happens on wednesday and enjoy the game finally. my friend thank you. this was the answer i alwasy wanted from certain people when turkey won. instead of calling me arrogant for my predictions. since we are in such a serious conversation with you. i will tell you the truth. Turkey will NOT beat Germany. never with 11 missing players. but sure anythi,ng can happen after this stage. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentaal Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 i dont understand why people dont take turkey more seriously At least that's obvious. but sure anythi,ng can happen after this stage. That's not what you said a few days ago. "Turkey's gonna win the tournament and the next world cup. Turkey's gonna slaughter everyone." Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
profets Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 finally. my friend thank you. this was the answer i alwasy wanted from certain people when turkey won. instead of calling me arrogant for my predictions. since we are in such a serious conversation with you. i will tell you the truth. Turkey will NOT beat Germany. never with 11 missing players. but sure anythi,ng can happen after this stage. thats true. unfortunately theyre in bad shape in terms of the roster. many players injured and suspended. of course anything can happen, but it'll be tough i havent seen details about the actual players who are able to play on wed. do you know an actual count? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfista Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Nihat Kahveci Servet Cetin Emre Gungor Emre Bolezoglu Tumer Metin are all injured Arda Turan Tuncay Sanlı Emre Asik Volkan Demirel are all suspended. and 2 other players have minor injury and wont play against germany but might play if we reach to the final. The Euro Competition has 23 players as a roster... and turkey has 11 injured and suspended. so simply we do not even have any substitutions to mke besides our 3rd goalkeeper. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFuji Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Isn't football (or sport in general) just great because you never know who's going to win? :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfista Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 why all the doubt now, u was bigging up your team in previous posts! that wa few days ago before all these suspensions and injuries. 11 missing players. from the 23 people roaster. IF WE COULD bring in players i would still cheer for Turkey. but at this stage you can not invite other players. so i am wise enough to admit that turkey's chances are very slim against germany. because we will have midfielders playing in defence on Wednesday. and midfielders playing as forwards. so i am admitting it now that turkey wont win. i cant see any shame in this. again as i said few days ago things were much different. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
profets Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Nihat KahveciServet Cetin Emre Gungor Emre Bolezoglu Tumer Metin are all injured Arda Turan Tuncay Sanlı Emre Asik Volkan Demirel are all suspended. and 2 other players have minor injury and wont play against germany but might play if we reach to the final. The Euro Competition has 23 players as a roster... and turkey has 11 injured and suspended. so simply we do not even have any substitutions to mke besides our 3rd goalkeeper. brutal. well in that case its going to be extemely difficult all the best for them but i dont think theyll be able to take germany in that shape Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfista Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 It's sad that you think Turkey's the only team with injuries/suspensions. Or maybe... you're just conveniently ignoring other teams' problems... Man look at the injuries and suspensions Volkan Demirel (starting Keeper) Servet Cetin (starting defender) Emre Asik (starting defender) Emre bolezoglu (starting midfielder) Arda Turan (starting winger) Tuncay Sanlı (startint winger) Nihat Kahveci (starting striker) Emre Gungor (substitute for starting defenders) Tumer Metin (substitute for starting midfielders) who else is having such a problem? this is not an EXCUSE.. this is just WHY we wont be able to beat germany. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentaal Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Which leads to a conclusion... Your A team isn't physically fit for this kind of a tournament. It's not my fault they're injured, and surely not all of them got injured by a single tackle. The ones with suspensions should've taken better care of what they do on the field. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfista Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 brutal. well in that case its going to be extemely difficultall the best for them but i dont think theyll be able to take germany in that shape i agree i was never suprised to beat switzerland, croatia, or czech republic.. matter of fact i was SURE. but i would be suprised if we can beat germany like this. i wish we could invite some players to the tournament. Which leads to a conclusion... Your A team isn't physically fit for this kind of a tournament. It's not my fault they're injured, and surely not all of them got injured by a single tackle. The ones with suspensions should've taken better care of what they do on the field. man no one blamed you :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keito Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 (edited) anyone know who will be the referee tonight? Edited June 22, 2008 by bmaher Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted June 22, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 22, 2008 I just read this Turkey are so decimated by injuries and suspensions for the Euro 2008 semi-final against Germany that deputy keeper Tolgan Zengin may play outfield.Coach Fatih Terim has nine players from his squad unavailable for Wednesday's clash in Basel. And he said: "He could come on towards the end as a sub as last man in defence or a centre forward." Terim added: "We can't allow ourselves the luxury of players choosing where they want to play." Going to be interesting! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfista Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I just read thisGoing to be interesting! if you ask me. germany would win by 3 goals. but noone asks me as my opinons are almost all true (except holland russia game) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChainsaw Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Italy might win in today's match. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 The excuses are coming out already. Liverpool won the Champions League in 2005, even though we had a greater acumaltive injury list more than any other club in Europe. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfista Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 (edited) Italy might win in today's match. i believe its going to be a fast paced game. both are mediterrenian teams and would play similar type of football. Buffon is a great advantage for italy. he is on form as well. I just feel their defence are not doing much good... On the other hand spain has a very good squad but somehow they are always running out of pace in the middle of the tournaments.... cant make up my mind about this game. The excuses are coming out already.Liverpool won the Champions League in 2005, even though we had a greater acumaltive injury list more than any other club in Europe. and when did liverpool ever played in a game with 14 people.. 11 starting and 3 subs with 1 being a goalkeeper in 1 game? at a semi final? where liverpool could promote young players to play in the competition but turkey can not invite more players? Edited June 22, 2008 by bmaher Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keito Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 aww... I got no reply yet :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfista Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Markus comedian... people expected france and italy to be fast paced too and was it? why didnt you show me that pic when everyone said obviously switzerland, czech republic and croatia would beat turkey? for some of you that was obvious as well? i want that rock for those games too... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfista Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Hm, talk about exaggerating...Just look at your post after Turkey won against Switzerland. and noone can change their mind? i said now. today after seeing the roster and unavailable players we do not stand a chance because our 3rd and final sub is a goalkeeper.. I am mature enough to ADMIT that i was wrong in that prediction.. the key word here is MATURE... but whom else admitted that they screwed up when they thought croatia, czech republic and switzerland would beat turkey? instead of admitting everyone said next time you will loose... and in each next time we WON but it will not happen this time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setnom Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I have no favorites for tonight. Spain or Italy, it really doesn't matter to me. By the way, and I asked this before, does anyone know how the TV channels know the distance run by the players in the games? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Stu Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 (edited) I have no favorites for tonight. Spain or Italy, it really doesn't matter to me.By the way, and I asked this before, does anyone know how the TV channels know the distance run by the players in the games? I think spain will win this game. Also thats a good point about distance run, ive always wondered that aswell! Edited June 22, 2008 by bmaher Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keito Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 yeah... so... way to go with yet again not reading what I said. Geez... I hope De La Red will get some time on the pitch tonight - he was great last game. However I somewhat fear the trend of group winners being sent home... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/641781-euro-2008/page/40/#findComment-589502913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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