The Canadian Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 This is in regards to my post: Does "Muslim Massacre" game show a need for Internet regulation? Muslim Massacre is a game which puts players in control of a soldier whose mission it is to rid the world of every last Muslim. Nice. The Internet-only game caused controversy amongst the Muslim population and has now been pulled from the website. In its place is a grovelling apology from the creator of the game. But is it genuine or merely some cowardly backtracking? Last week saw Muslim Massacre get some mainstream and very public attention after it became an Internet meme. What started as a forum post pointing people towards the game turned in to a media circus, with newspapers and websites all around the world attacking the idea of the game and its creator, Sigvatr. The game was Web-only, with poor graphics, and so really shouldn?t have got the amount of attention it did. Unfortunately, the subject matter was such that it was always bound to grab the headlines. While some believed it was intended as a parody of American foreign policy, others believed it to be just a downright sick game likely to add to the problem of Islamophobia. I argued that whatever the message being sent at the heart of the game, it should be allowed to exist, merely because by calling for it to be banned, it would mean we are calling for the Internet to be policed and censored. In the end, a ban wasn?t necessary, as the game?s website now sports an apology instead of the game itself. I would like to make a public apology for any offense that I might have caused through releasing this game, and to Muslims in particular. My intentions when releasing this project were to mock the foreign policy of the United States and the commonly held belief in the United States that Muslims are a hostile people to be held with suspicion. I would like to make it clear that I have never shared such a belief and my intention was to mock those who actually do believe these things.I would like to ask for the forgiveness of Muslims around the world and to make it clear that I did not release this game with ill intent. So without further ado, I would like to say that I am truly apologetic for what I have done and will take full responsibility for all offense that has been caused. I can only hope that any further misgivings can be laid to rest. The apology seems genuine enough, and it is certainly well written. And removing the game is noble. The problem is that once something has been released on the Internet, it?s pretty much guaranteed to be on there until the end of time. If you look in the right place, you?ll still be ablMuslim Massacressacre and see what all the fuss was about. I?m glad the creator of the game eventually saw the light and took the right decision. However, I?m still struggling to understand why the game was created and put on the Web in the first place. Source: Various Sites Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApuBo Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 edit: didnt read xD sry Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589795362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Self censoriship would work in an ideal world, except for the following: In an ideal world there would be no need for censorship. In an ideal world we wouldn't have to deal with idiots. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589795372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacer Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 The game just screams controversy. It should never have been published by the creator, and any mature, intelligent person would have known better. I agree that the internet should remain free from censorship though, some people just need to grow thicker skin. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589795486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted September 15, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 15, 2008 Self censoriship would work in an ideal world, except for the following:In an ideal world there would be no need for censorship. In an ideal world we wouldn't have to deal with idiots. It's a real shame we'll never be able to get rid of the idiots. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589795490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
afusion Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 geh I don't really care anymore.. If he hates Muslims that's his problem. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589795536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTUsEr Veteran Posted September 15, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 15, 2008 He Caved in. blah Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589795856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nose Nuggets Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 there is nothing ever that should require " Internet regulation". i don't care if the guy made a game about raping toddlers. if that's what he wants to do, that's his prerogative. if you don't like it, go someplace else. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589795936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karembou Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 (edited) Man, what a waste of time to post the game and then get to pull it out. Wasn't even productive at all. The apology seems well explained as what were his intentions but it seems to be a sensitive topic when you get religion in the way. Edited September 15, 2008 by morcey Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589795940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmehdi Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 This game is worthless, anyway. The concept might be funny somehow. I would have called this game "irak invasion", and instead of the instruction "kill as many muslim as you can", I would have put "kill as many innocent civils as you can, Then take the petrol". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589795958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I would have called this game "irak invasion",and instead of the instruction "kill as many muslim as you can", I would have put "kill as many innocent civils as you can, Then take the petrol". Just play America's Army. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589795998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzila Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 http://forum/index.php?showtopic=669980 hahahah this is ok who put the link not correctly ??????? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solardog Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 This game is worthless, anyway.The concept might be funny somehow. I would have called this game "irak invasion", and instead of the instruction "kill as many muslim as you can", I would have put "kill as many innocent civils as you can, Then take the petrol". Wow, you need to upgrade your veiled attacks...that one is so 2004. :pacifier: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzila Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 heheh OBAMA its great changing all worlds..... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmehdi Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 @solardog Wow, you need to upgrade your veiled attacks...that one is so 2004. killing muslims is more 2008, you are right. @godzila yes, seems there's great expectations about Obama. Although I don't know him particularly well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 As much as the game sounded stupid, I'm sad to see this got "censored". I know the author took it off himself but still Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jingarelho Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 ok... going to the basement prepare for the riots again... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I love the way whenever someone is intolerant of something or just choses to display their displeasure for it, that some bigger jackass comes along and names a phobia after it... in this case, "Islamophobia" ... please, get over yourself and stop pimping this topic for your sensational news needs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 i personally didnt get to play it but would of loved to. I bet if it was kill as many palestinians as you can it wouldnt of gotten much interest. Muslims just moan about everything. There killing ppl for stupid reasons in there home countries everyday, i reckon they should be shot might knock some sense into them. but if it was about israel/jews , we all now what will happen ...... :rolleyes: ..... the whole thing will be upside down Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateB Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 And this guy is the first ever to make a game like this huh..... http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/16/...reut/index.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhand Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 but if it was about israel/jews , we all now what will happen ...... :rolleyes: ..... the whole thing will be upside down Now now, I'm sure Jew Genocide, Christian Culling, Buddhism Butchery, or Hindi Hangings would have gotten equal outrage from the Mid-Eastern community. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Frett Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I played it and I have it. All it was about, was killing terrorists. If you're offended by killing the boss (Osama Bin Laden) then there is something wrong with you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari800 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Geez I guess they should yank Mortal Kombat Lui Kang - Chinese guy - can get his head ripped off - Offensive to the Chinese Sonya Blade - Blonde Girl - can get frozen and smashed into a million peices - Offensive to Women Jax - Black guy with machine arms - can get killed in many ways - Offensive to blacks and those with artificial appendages Not to mention Donkey Kong and the atrocity to Italian plumbers Stop the insanity now - unplug and/or delete all video games *by the way I am offended by the number zero and will not acknowledge it's existence in numerical form - there for most high scores in video games offend me. Blaring out on the machines - mocking me - almost stabbing my soul. So please change the world for me. I mean I can look away and I generally dont play video games and can easily do something else and ignore this but.... well I want the world to change for me too. (yes it is a joke) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted September 15, 2008 Veteran Share Posted September 15, 2008 Self censoriship would work in an ideal world, except for the following:In an ideal world there would be no need for censorship. In an ideal world we wouldn't have to deal with idiots. Following that through logically, nobody would want to have power over the people, so ideally nobody would have the ambition to, so then nobody would have ambition to do better than anyone, because they wouldn't want the power over the person they'd beaten. Doesn't sound like somewhere I'd want to live. i personally didnt get to play it but would of loved to. I bet if it was kill as many palestinians as you can it wouldnt of gotten much interest. Muslims just moan about everything. There killing ppl for stupid reasons in there home countries everyday, i reckon they should be shot might knock some sense into them. :sleep: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 The game just screams controversy. It should never have been published by the creator, and any mature, intelligent person would have known better.I agree that the internet should remain free from censorship though, some people just need to grow thicker skin. In most cases, controversy is what sells. Whether it be selling a product or having people tune in to watch or listen to your show. That's exactly why people like Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh are so popular. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/669980-muslim-massacre-game-pulled-along-with-a-genuine-apology/#findComment-589796778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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