Lasker Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 People always say that but I used XP Since RC2 and I found XP to be a great OS even before Sp1 and certainly after Sp1 but to me Sp2 made XP no better than it already was at the time. I agree with you, but what people don't get is that service packs are basically fix under the hood and securities updates, nothing more than that. You can't see it with the naked eyes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statikk Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 People always say that but I used XP Since RC2 and I found XP to be a great OS even before Sp1 and certainly after Sp1 but to me Sp2 made XP no better than it already was at the time. I mostly agree. XP was always a great OS straight from RTM but one thing that SP2 greatly improved was its wireless networking interface and functionality. I deal with quite a few wireless XP machines and SP2 sure made the wireless aspect of those machines much more stable and easier for end users to configure. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japlabot Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 we need SP2 so that Windows Server 2008 can be considered 'stable' - usually not considered stable until there is a service pack after. Starting at SP1 is cheating :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 13, 2008 MVC Share Posted October 13, 2008 I agree with you, but what people don't get is that service packs are basically fix under the hood and securities updates, nothing more than that. You can't see it with the naked eyes. I'll agree with ya on that one Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I agree with you, but what people don't get is that service packs are basically fix under the hood and securities updates, nothing more than that. You can't see it with the naked eyes. Yup, been saying this for ages. SP2 for XP was an oddball, SP1 for Vistal also (to a lesser extent). Nowhere near as bad as NT4's "Option Pack"... Service Packs should just be roll-up hotfixes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkz Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 XP SP2 spoiled me. I wish more Service Packs were like it. yep, that was a huge leap. it was the time when getting a good proxy got harder. i don't really believe it can possibly be the same with vista Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KZWings Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I could have sworn someone posted about this article lastnight and got a slap in the face by members telling them it was just an article meaning nothing. How fickle neowin can be nowadays. Yep, right here: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=681308 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I am thinking DX 11,WMP 12, Windows FS? I do not know could be all of that plus some new hotfixes for dual and quad core chips. This is getting annoying, someone who knows about what happened to WinFS etc should make a topic about it and sticky it somewhere, I'm getting tired of WinFS being mentioned whenever Windows 7 or Vista topics pop up, it's dead. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
testman Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 i personally never upgraded my vista machine to sp1 because when i tried it it ruined the installation and i had to use the rescue disk...I am kinda hopping for vista sp2 to be like xp sp2 and really improve on what's missing and what people are having troubles with... SP2 is what made XP a good OS, hopefully it improves UAC a bit. I've only recently switched to Vista (after some 10 or so attempts every few months) when I was satisfied enough with the system itself and driver availability/stability/maturity and it's working quite okay now. XP still has better performance, but the difference is not as large as it used to be and is down to acceptable levels of a newer OS now.Looking forward to it. XP SP2 was a unique occurance. Service Packs have usually been a collection of all fixes since the last service pack and a few new fixes, not adding new features. So you won't see anything new from Windows "7" in there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 This is getting annoying, someone who knows about what happened to WinFS etc should make a topic about it and sticky it somewhere, I'm getting tired of WinFS being mentioned whenever Windows 7 or Vista topics pop up, it's dead. Moreover, I bet half these people have no idea what it was, how it would benefit them, and just still will claim "It's a new filesystem"... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Blue01 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 If Server 2008 is the same as Vista SP1 why are they saying Server 2008 SP2 and Vista SP2? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyAndyK Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Doesnt say much actually ... just a placeholder, I guess ... but surely a pointer of things to come! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalE Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Of course there will be an SP2. Microsoft has always supported their products in the past. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom1981 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Moreover, I bet half these people have no idea what it was, how it would benefit them, and just still will claim "It's a new filesystem"... These people should just join technet and try it out themselves. technet stil lhas the beta of winfs for download. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Moreover, I bet half these people have no idea what it was, how it would benefit them, and just still will claim "It's a new filesystem"... A lot of the posts I've seen is that people believed it was a replacement for 'NTFS'. *sighs* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 This is a surprise. I mean, Vista is working so flawlessly for me I can't imagine why 'SP2' is needed. this comment shows you have no idea what SPs are Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japlabot Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 If Server 2008 is the same as Vista SP1 why are they saying Server 2008 SP2 and Vista SP2? :blink: Because Windows 2008 was released already at 'SP1' Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 XP SP2 spoiled me. I wish more Service Packs were like it. True, but that's because XP truly sucked pre-SP2, unlike Vista. The latter didn't have any major security exploits upon release like the former did. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Moreover, I bet half these people have no idea what it was, how it would benefit them, and just still will claim "It's a new filesystem"... +1 yes it is not like NTFS is broken or anything FAT32 is that why it got replaced by NTFS Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpioRGc1 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Honestly, with Windows 7 so close, I see Vista SP2 as a roll-up service pack, to be honest. Much like XP SP3, it will likely roll up updates and add a couple of minor features (and maybe fix some bugs). Just my two cents... ^_^ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589960986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doli Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I knew it: :DSP1 Failed to Fix Several Windows Vista Bugs, Do We Need SP2? Were the bugs listed supposed to be fixed in SP1? SP1 cant fail to fix bugs its not listed to fix. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589961094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vishal Gupta Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 ^^ All bugs mentioned in the list were reported to Microsoft during testing. I also reported these bugs after RTM using MVP special feedback form. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589961176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I wrote in another thread: Difference with Windows is that the flaws usually won't get fixed or if they'll do, it happens in the next version of Windows which you'll have to pay for. now that seems pretty appropriate. :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589961460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echilon Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 This is a surprise. I mean, Vista is working so flawlessly for me I can't imagine why 'SP2' is needed. They're always releasing hotfixes. Service packs are usually just a collection of hotfixes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589961586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 They're always releasing hotfixes. Service packs are usually just a collection of hotfixes. to be precise a collection of thoroughly tested hotfixes/patches for combitability and reliability purposes Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/681598-windows-vista-sp2-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-589961918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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