ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 The patch is complete. They're waiting for Microsoft to authorise its release (Y) sweet, btw i found these command line tweaks on the nvnews forum, (-norestriction -nomemrestrict -dx9 /high) added them to my game shortcut and now its playable at my monitors full res 1440x900. tried multiplayer but the fps were cack, but at least i can actually play some single player mayhem now. can't wait for the patch! thanks for the heads up :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590233676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leph555 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Same thing here in Russia and Ukraine :) holy **** im so telling my dad to buy me a bunch of games when he goes to moscow at the end of the month Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590233708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTD Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Will this be the same fun-for-about-a-week snorefest that GTA 3 and 4 were? Great concepts. Killed by the repetitive-gameplay monster. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590233724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Will this be the same fun-for-about-a-week snorefest that GTA 3 and 4 were?Great concepts. Killed by the repetitive-gameplay monster. I think IV is the best, I can't play III, VC or SA for a few minutes before getting bored, probably because they are just outdated and don't have the same content that IV does. Still classic games but not much fun anymore. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590233760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 (edited) Tested out those new nVidia drivers; So barely a difference for me. Edited December 6, 2008 by Sethos Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590233968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹ Posted December 6, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 6, 2008 9800GTX, 3ghz C2D E8400 and Corsair 4GB PC6400 runs like a bag of sh*te. I should have taken note of this thread :( and gaystation will not refund cos my pc meets the specs :( what a waste of money. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590234626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chsoriano Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 After running more tests with the 4870 X2... I'm getting on average about 2-5 fewer fps than with my 512MB 4870. Does that make sense? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590234678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unimatrix Xero Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 9800GTX, 3ghz C2D E8400 and Corsair 4GB PC6400 runs like a bag of sh*te. I should have taken note of this thread :( and gaystation will not refund cos my pc meets the specs :( what a waste of money. just wait for the bloody patch, you have told me to wait and be calm, now you do the same :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590234692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 (edited) After running more tests with the 4870 X2... I'm getting on average about 2-5 fewer fps than with my 512MB 4870. Does that make sense? Could be a bottleneck problem since this game is so CPU intensive. So instead of increased performance it's just holding back the card and thus creating a negative effect. I'm probably talking out of my ass :laugh: Game is CPU intensive though. Edited December 6, 2008 by Sethos Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590234696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹ Posted December 6, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 6, 2008 just wait for the bloody patch, you have told me to wait and be calm, now you do the same :p Huh? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590234702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chsoriano Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Could be a bottleneck problem since this game is so CPU intensive. So instead of increased performance it's just holding back the card and thus creating a negative effect. I'm probably talking out of my ass :laugh: Game is CPU intensive though. Haha, well I know it's CPU intensive... but it's paired with a Q9450 and 8GB of ram, so I would think it would be alright. I haven't OC'd my Q9450 though. I wonder how much that would help. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590234830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Doubt it would, there is something at the core of this game conflicting with some hardware - My system is over 2 years old and game is running butter smooth at 35-40fps, does that sound right when a system like yours is struggling? Really hope Rockstar find out what the hell they screwed up and fix it soon. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590234948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Sigh, finally get it running semi smooth now it keeps crashing with out of video memory errors :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590234988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevyordeath Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Hmm.. Well, my PC meets the REQ' specs, but judging by this thread I will wait until patches are released. I have always enjoyed GTA more on PC rather then console. I have GTA IV for my PS3... but I think GTA is much more fun on pc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590234990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Here's some tips from the GTA section of the Steam Forums; 1. Disable Video Recording ** This increases your frame rate dramatically. ** - Start the game and goto Press Escape > Game > Video Recording and set it too off. This will stop the hitching and provide a good boost to your frame rate. 2. Disable Superfetching in Vista - Run services.msc > Superfetch > Properties > Startup Type: Disable > Restart your computer. 3. Disable Windows Search in Windows Vista - Run services.msc > Windows Search > Properties > Startup Type: Disable > Restart your computer. 4. Disable all unneeded services / start up programs - Start > msconfig > Check Hide all Microsoft Services > Uncheck everything you do not need. Goto Startup and disable everything (you do not have to disable Rockstar Games Social Club). 5. Full Screen Blur - While ingame press "P" (confirmed to work for some people) - Thread with Comparison Shots; http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread...023&page=17 6. Higher FSB (ADVANCED USERS ONLY) - Lower your multiplier in the BIOS and increase your FSB to achieve stock clock rates for your CPU. This does lead to increases in frame rate. Going from stock 266x9 to 400x6 gave me a 7fps increase. 7. Install Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa569263.aspx 8. Ensure Video Memory is GREEN - Even with autoconfig settings sometimes you will be yellow, lower your draw distance until you are green. This also prevents the video memory crash error from ever happening. 9. Move pagefile to another Hard Drive that GTA 4 is not on. - If you only have one HD this does not apply. This also should not matter if you have 4GB or more of system memory. 10. SLI Users; Disable SLI - Nividia Control Panel > Disable SLI (or setup a profile to do it for you) More Tips & Tricks; Click Will definitely try Number 1 (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590234996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasoosh Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 nice video of gta 4 graphics differences Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590235226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Punk Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Managed to iron out all of the glitches and issues I was having and I now enjoy the game at 800x600 on the lowest settings for everything at 20fps. Doesn't sound that good, but when you consider I only have a 256mb 6800GS - that's pretty good going. Will be buying a new graphics card soon (: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590235260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasoosh Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Want to play with your Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2? (or any other gamepad, also with any other "Windows Live" game with your button layout pre configured exactly like the Xbox 360 gamepad..) Place xbox360cemu.ini into 'C:\Windows' Directory.x32: Place xinput1_1.dll, xinput1_2.dll, xinput1_3.dll, xinput9_1_0.dll Into 'C:\Windows\System32' Directory. x64: Place xinput1_1.dll, xinput1_2.dll, xinput1_3.dll, xinput9_1_0.dll Into 'C:\Windows\SysWOW64' Directory. ---------- To configure the DLL, you'll have to stick a file called xbox360cemu.ini into the C:\Windows directory. See the sample INI for an example setup. The INI file itself is pretty simple, you have a section [PAD1], underneath you have the key=value mappings. The possible keys fall into a few categories, each with differently interpreted values. The buttons simply have a positive integer assigned to them, indicating the index of the mapped button (starting from 1). The keys for the buttons are: A, B, X, Y, Left Shoulder, Right Shoulder, Back, Start, Left Thumb, Right Thumb, D-pad Up, D-pad Down, D-pad Left, D-pad Right Analog sticks each have an axis assigned, again starting from 1. If you want to invert a particular axis, use negative indexes. The keys for the analogs are: Left Analog X, Left Analog Y, Right Analog X, Right Analog Y Triggers can be assigned to a button, axis, or slider. If the first character of the value is 'a', it refers to an axis, if it is an 's' it's a slider, otherwise it's a button. The rest is the index, which is used the same way as in the previous two cases. The keys for the triggers are: Left Trigger, Right Trigger The last key is "D-pad POV", if you give it a value (starting from 1), the POV/hat-switch with that index will be assigned to the D-pad. This settings work just like the xbox button layout should on the rumblepad. (you can change the buttons to your liking) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590235792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted December 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 7, 2008 well in india, the original game is available from rockstar for $10 only. so u might just grab it from there instead of getting a demo. Man, that is pretty cheap, works out $14.95 for me. Even if it runs like crap, at that price it'd be worth it, now to find out if they ship to Australia... Edit: No they don't, oh well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590235906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphaomegainfinity Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 Disable Video Recording ** This increases your frame rate dramatically. **- Start the game and goto Press Escape > Game > Video Recording and set it too off. This will stop the hitching and provide a good boost to your frame rate. 2. Disable Superfetching in Vista - Run services.msc > Superfetch > Properties > Startup Type: Disable > Restart your computer. 3. Disable Windows Search in Windows Vista - Run services.msc > Windows Search > Properties > Startup Type: Disable > Restart your computer. 4. Disable all unneeded services / start up programs - Start > msconfig > Check Hide all Microsoft Services > Uncheck everything you do not need. Goto Startup and disable everything (you do not have to disable Rockstar Games Social Club). 5. Full Screen Blur - While ingame press "P" (confirmed to work for some people) - Thread with Comparison Shots; http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread...023&page=17 6. Higher FSB (ADVANCED USERS ONLY) - Lower your multiplier in the BIOS and increase your FSB to achieve stock clock rates for your CPU. This does lead to increases in frame rate. Going from stock 266x9 to 400x6 gave me a 7fps increase. 7. Install Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa569263.aspx 8. Ensure Video Memory is GREEN - Even with autoconfig settings sometimes you will be yellow, lower your draw distance until you are green. This also prevents the video memory crash error from ever happening. 9. Move pagefile to another Hard Drive that GTA 4 is not on. - If you only have one HD this does not apply. This also should not matter if you have 4GB or more of system memory. 10. SLI Users; Disable SLI - Nividia Control Panel > Disable SLI (or setup a profile to do it for you) Disable the game to spare the headaches. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590236184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted December 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 7, 2008 Wow, just reading through this thread, seems like almost everyone except Sethos is having problems. :laugh: Should I bother with this game? I've got a Q6600 at 3 GHz and a slightly overclocked 8800 GT. My monitor's resolution is at 1280x1024. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590236502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted December 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 7, 2008 I hope the patch and upcoming ATI drivers fix the issues for me. If not, then it'll be awhile before I can fully enjoy the game. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590237002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted December 7, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 7, 2008 I wonder how many people actually accepted the "designed for a computer that doesn't exist" excuse. It just seems laughable that they assumed that would be a valid explanation. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590237218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mieky242 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 The game runs acceptably for me and I have a Q6700 with a 4870 512 and 4GB of Ram. This game runs better than most people say I think. Even sill, it will be much better when optimised graphic drivers are released and the game is patched up. Im not 100% happy with the way this game runs but I know that this happens and I know it can (and will) be improved. People need to stop moaning about every little thing that makes them unhappy. And why not accept the "designed for a computer that is in the future" excuse, Crysis had the same reason? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590237354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 6. Higher FSB (ADVANCED USERS ONLY)- Lower your multiplier in the BIOS and increase your FSB to achieve stock clock rates for your CPU. This does lead to increases in frame rate. Going from stock 266x9 to 400x6 gave me a 7fps increase. well an i7 based cpu will kick ass then since it has twice more bandwidth then QX9770 (1600 mhz bus) I wonder how many people actually accepted the "designed for a computer that doesn't exist" excuse.It just seems laughable that they assumed that would be a valid explanation. +1 yea when they got stuck with the job , they just say the mightest computer is week , while it run just fine in a weakling console The game runs acceptably for me and I have a Q6700 with a 4870 512 and 4GB of Ram.This game runs better than most people say I think. Even sill, it will be much better when optimised graphic drivers are released and the game is patched up. Im not 100% happy with the way this game runs but I know that this happens and I know it can (and will) be improved. People need to stop moaning about every little thing that makes them unhappy. And why not accept the "designed for a computer that is in the future" excuse, Crysis had the same reason? i don't really accept there excuse but it is unlike GTA4 which was a port Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/22/#findComment-590237364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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