The_Decryptor Veteran Posted February 5, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 5, 2009 Intel's integrated graphics processors are really bad, their high end might be equivalent to Nvidia's or ATI's low end. If you're having problems running Bioshock (i.e. you're running it on low) you're going to have lots of problems running GTA4 (if it even will, the Intel cards cut corners to do certain things) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590531952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphaomegainfinity Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 There is no way even the fastest Intel Integrated card-the 4500MHD can run GTA 4 ,let alone play it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590532170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samn9 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If you manage to get it working you won't get above 3fps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590533808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealMySoda Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 As a lot of people have said. Intel integrated graphics are terrible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590535090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted February 5, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 5, 2009 Any integrated GPU is well below the minimum system requirements for GTA IV. I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work properly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590535212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuTemp Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Well, it's a shame if it won't work, but the good news is I just bought two GeForce 9800 512mb GTs for my desktop. From the comments in this thread, it looks like I'll have good results with them. I believe my CPU will be the only bottleneck I'll then have to contend with. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590535944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Have you installed the latest patches? There's 2 so far. Yeah I have the latest drivers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590535978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoria Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 GTA IV is running great on my new rig. I upgraded to an AMD Phenom 9750 from an Athlon X2 3800+ and my game is so smooth. I've used various video card drivers with my 9600GT and I've found the best drivers to use are either the new 181.00 or the 180.87 driver. I am glad to hear that. I am just getting my Phenom II X4 940 BE tomorrow. I was going to go with Intel q9550 but changed my mind last moment. AMD alternative came much cheaper and apparently same performance after I OC the CPU a bit. I also have a 9600GT @700MHz Core. For HD I have the WD 320GB 16MB cache 7200RPM SATA 3Gbps. So I think I will see a good performance increase going from Opteron 180 oced @ 3GHz I heard that a quad core makes quite the difference when it comes to GTA IV Cheers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590536034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted February 6, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 6, 2009 Well, it's a shame if it won't work, but the good news is I just bought two GeForce 9800 512mb GTs for my desktop. From the comments in this thread, it looks like I'll have good results with them. I believe my CPU will be the only bottleneck I'll then have to contend with. It should perform well with GTA IV. What CPU do you have? If it's a quad-core, you're good to go. Yeah I have the latest drivers. That's odd. What settings are you using? Sometimes, it may "underestimate" the video memory usage in the options menu. Try lowering the settings and see if you still get the error. I am glad to hear that. I am just getting my Phenom II X4 940 BE tomorrow. I was going to go with Intel q9550 but changed my mind last moment. AMD alternative came much cheaper and apparently same performance after I OC the CPU a bit.I also have a 9600GT @700MHz Core. For HD I have the WD 320GB 16MB cache 7200RPM SATA 3Gbps. So I think I will see a good performance increase going from Opteron 180 oced @ 3GHz I heard that a quad core makes quite the difference when it comes to GTA IV Cheers A game like GTA IV is CPU-bound so a better CPU means better FPS. Especially if you're upgrading to a quad-core CPU. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590536302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealMySoda Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Just benchmarked with my new system. Using the preset settings, have tried to tweak it yet: StatisticsAverage FPS: 46.94 Duration: 37.41 sec CPU Usage: 72% System memory usage: 54% Video memory usage: 75% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: High Reflection Resolution: High Water Quality: Very High Shadow Quality: High View Distance: 37 Detail Distance: 37 Definition: Off VSync: Off Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590540102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoria Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Just benchmarked with my new system. Using the preset settings, have tried to tweak it yet: Can you give us your PC specs again? I am just installing my AMD Phenom II 940 and I will post some benchmarks later. Cheers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590540534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealMySoda Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Can you give us your PC specs again?I am just installing my AMD Phenom II 940 and I will post some benchmarks later. Cheers AMD Phenom II 920 Asus Dark Knight 4870 HD Top Edition 4GB of Kingston KVR 800Mz HyperX DDR2 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590540792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Alright sometimes when I play GTA4 it crashes and after the crash something comes up and tells me Windows closed the program because it was doing wierd behavior and all that. When I click on more information I get this: Data Execution Prevention (DEP) is a security feature that can help prevent damage to your computer from viruses and other security threats. Harmful programs can try to attack Windows by attempting to run (also known as execute) code from system memory locations reserved for Windows and other authorized programs. These types of attacks can harm your programs and files.DEP can help protect your computer by monitoring your programs to make sure that they use system memory safely. If DEP notices a program on your computer using memory incorrectly, it closes the program and notifies you. So I am asking you, as I am getting tired of this thing Windows has closing GTA4 during a mission always, what should I do? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590569086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted February 13, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 13, 2009 Ideally I'd wait until Rockstar fix the issue, but the odds of Rockstar fixing anything are quite low. You should be able to configure Windows to ignore DEP when it comes to the main GTA app though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590569212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Star Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Ideally I'd wait until Rockstar fix the issue, but the odds of Rockstar fixing anything are quite low.You should be able to configure Windows to ignore DEP when it comes to the main GTA app though. Which one do I choose? When I chose to exclude GTA.exe it says it is not allowed. UAC is not on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590569254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunna Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I picked up GTA IV (PC) for ?9.99 from Morrisons (in Plymouth, UK) and I'm surprised how well it runs on my system. Some graphic gliches but nothing game stopping. - usually when on a motorbike going very, very fast. My specs : Intel Q6600 Geforce 8800GTS 320mb 2gb ddr2 Vista 32bit Texture are low but that's due to the gfx card but everything else medium to very high. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590574566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big dill Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 roadrunna, that's not a bad system... im not surprised you are satisfied with the performance! Here are my bench mark's: Statistics Average FPS: 41.95 Duration: 37.19 sec CPU Usage: 64% System memory usage: 81% Video memory usage: 100% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: High Reflection Resolution: Very High Water Quality: Very High Shadow Quality: Very High View Distance: 7 Detail Distance: 31 Definition: Off VSync: Off (with hardware limits) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590590072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srugie Veteran Posted February 17, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 17, 2009 The game is mostly a CPU game and requires at least a quad core CPU to run. The GPU doesn't matter as much. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590590090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 The game is mostly a CPU game and requires at least a quad core CPU to run. The GPU doesn't matter as much. Not true. I have a dual core CPU and 2 gig of ram along with a 512 meg GPU and it runs just fine. Sure i need to set a few settings low, but it looks and runs fine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590590108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 quad core CPU!?!?! :o Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590590132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 He is right about the game being very CPU dependant, though you aren't required to have a quad core but, under Vista with high settings you do need a quad core to see optimal performance, it'll kill any other CPU. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590590144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoria Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hey guys! I've been having a blast in GTA IV since I upgraded my CPU, so I havent posted much. So far I've sailed, flew a helicopter and pretty much drove anything off the streets, but can someone tell me if its possible to fly a plane? I went over to the airport but I could not get into any of the planes..... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590590670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big dill Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 sorry pal - they removed planes since GTA SA... sad but makes sence, the map is too small to fly a jet... 10 seconds and you will be across the whole map! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590591094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoria Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 sorry pal - they removed planes since GTA SA... sad but makes sence, the map is too small to fly a jet... 10 seconds and you will be across the whole map! :( ugh that suck... oh well.. it's still fun flying around in a helicopter. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590591296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted February 18, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 18, 2009 Planes are still in GTA4, just no models or vehicles set as planes. Wait for the modders to work out the model format and there should be planes made available. Also... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/33/#findComment-590591382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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