Sethos Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 And people really wonder why the PC scene is slowly descending into a pit of crap and moss. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590276346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 And people really wonder why the PC scene is slowly descending into a pit of crap and moss. Exactly. We pay more for the system and get less get less quality games (in general! - some stand out as the best) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590276364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted December 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 16, 2008 While I'm amazed that GTA4 runs as well as it does on my system, there's no denying it's a quick port. Especially since it still has console orientated messages appear. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590276700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 While I'm amazed that GTA4 runs as well as it does on my system, there's no denying it's a quick port.Especially since it still has console orientated messages appear. What like? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590276704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted December 16, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 16, 2008 The one thing that stands out to me is "Saving, Please don't turn off your system", that's mainly a console thing (since they're instant off), the default on every single computer I've used that's been made in the last decade is a soft off, you press the power button and the OS turns the computer off (closing down GTA4 cleanly) The message only applies to people who have modified the default settings (ideally they'd know enough to not then turn off while writing stuff to disk) or console users. Or not, I don't know, it's annoying me for some reason though. Edit: And it shows so quickly in most cases that by the time you'd even reach the power button it'd be finished. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590276718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 The one thing that stands out to me is "Saving, Please don't turn off your system", that's mainly a console thing (since they're instant off), the default on every single computer I've used that's been made in the last decade is a soft off, you press the power button and the OS turns the computer off (closing down GTA4 cleanly)The message only applies to people who have modified the default settings (ideally they'd know enough to not then turn off while writing stuff to disk) or console users. Or not, I don't know, it's annoying me for some reason though. Edit: And it shows so quickly in most cases that by the time you'd even reach the power button it'd be finished. I saw that but I don't believe it's a console reference. PCs are systems are they not? Can anyone check what the console versions say? It will either be 'console' or 'system' Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590276754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted December 17, 2008 Reviews Share Posted December 17, 2008 Mine is running almost perfect now, at least a constant 30fps (which is very smooth with vsync on)! 1920x1200 with these settings Looks really good too: http://robbiekhan.co.uk/root/games/gta4/solidsettings/ The shadows is what I think drops the fps the most, from 1 to 0 is 7fps difference alone and the only visual difference I notice is that you have dynamic shadows from car headlights on people and objects at night. Characters still have their own shadows during daytime etc. I like night time dynamic shadows so chose to keep it on 1 which I found to be a good compromise between visual quality and performance. It's probably not worth having vehicle density much higher than shown because I found traffic builds up quickly and making a swift getaway in a pinch-situation is very hard because there's so many cars hogging the lanes! (this setting has little impact on FPS I found also, dual core users may find otherwise). I just noticed the shadow dithering, IIRC As a recent article suggested it's probably because the shadows are directly ported from the console version which was designed for 720p so upscaled on PC at much sharper detail the dithering occurs - not a problem in motion as you won't notice it :) Another thing I really like that I noticed tonight was that each pedestrian is unique. I stole a car and drove around the corner only for someone to shout out "HEY! BOBBY'S CAR!!" :D I ALSO noticed : - That car interior lights go on and off when the doors are opened :D - That when you leave the car door open at night or with lights on the drivers side goes *BONG BONG BONG!* :D - That you can baseball bat mailboxes and letters go flying everywhere :D - That rusty manked up cars also have alarms, these alarms sound rusty and manky too! - That you can KILL A MAN by merely throwing Ketchup tubes at him in the cafe! The more I play the more neat little things I discover, things that each time you discover them begin to forget that there are graphical bugs and performance issues at higher slider settings and just appreciate a super fun game world! Now I'm happy :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590279450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphaomegainfinity Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 The one thing that stands out to me is "Saving, Please don't turn off your system", that's mainly a console thing (since they're instant off), AFAIK, it was also there in Bioshock's saving system. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590279922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted December 17, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 17, 2008 mrk: I'll give those settings a try. So far I've overclocked my E6750 to 3.2 GHz and added an additional 4GB of RAM. This time around, the game better run good. By the way, has anyone tried the game on a Core i7 system? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590279938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samn9 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 To add motion blur, depth of field and reduce the graininess of shadows and aliasing press 'P'. I hated it at first, couldn't imagine playing without it on now though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590281514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyehac Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I ALSO noticed :- That car interior lights go on and off when the doors are opened :D - That when you leave the car door open at night or with lights on the drivers side goes *BONG BONG BONG!* :D - That you can baseball bat mailboxes and letters go flying everywhere :D - That rusty manked up cars also have alarms, these alarms sound rusty and manky too! - That you can KILL A MAN by merely throwing Ketchup tubes at him in the cafe! The more I play the more neat little things I discover, things that each time you discover them begin to forget that there are graphical bugs and performance issues at higher slider settings and just appreciate a super fun game world! Now I'm happy :) I love the details! However, its gettig too much real life - you have your own 'job', sleep, eat, even go online. I'd LMAO if niko can play a mini GTA version of the game. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590282090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹ Posted December 17, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) This game is a pile of **** (on the pc), ****star is the new EA, a company to be avoided :( I have been an avid fan of theirs for so long I cannot remember, but now they are just a load of crap :( Fester and die, hopefully like the other company I mentioned. Edited January 9, 2009 by bmaher Please don't bypass the swear filter Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590282304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) This game is a pile of **** (on the pc), ****star is the new EA, a company to be avoided :( I have been an avid fan of theirs for so long I cannot remember, but now they are just a load of crap :( Fester and die, hopefully like the other company I mentioned. Rockstar will never, ever be anything like EA because Rockstar continuously pump out superior or decent games. A bad port is not going to change that. Edited January 9, 2009 by bmaher updated quote Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590282664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted December 19, 2008 Reviews Share Posted December 19, 2008 I packed up my 4870 512MB this morning (going on sale) and picked up a Zotac GTX 260 (core 216) and OMFG, the game NEVER drops below 30fps now, it's basically butter smooth and on top of that it's using these settings. And this is how it now looks! I now take back everything I said about the game performance wise because it no longer applies (for me anyway :D) WOOT AND WOOTASS! Now all I need is FSAA and BLAMMO! I'm a super happy bunny :D On top of that the gfx card came with FarCry2 and 3DMark Vantage Advanced edition, not bad for ?228 (should be able to get ?150 at least for the 487:):) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590289928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unimatrix Xero Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 ive found that the new version of riva tuner now supports the gta.exe and when activated ive found that it really helps smooth out GTA, im not sure if this is a mental feeling, but from what ive seen so far its smoother Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590290466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leph555 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 well i decided to reformat and install a new copy of Vista last night but i did forget to back up my GTA IV save file. So I am forced to start all over again :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590290726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasoosh Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 After a lot of research, tweaks and A LOT of reading on the web i've found that the best solution for us vista users is to dual boot with xp. I've installed GTAIV on vista and on xp and wow, the difference. On vista i got 20-24 FPS (choppy, slow, no fun) On xp i get 35-60 fps (avg of 40, rarely under 30) you can see my specs on my sig + my cpu is oc to 3.6. I've uploaded my settings, maybe it will help someone with the same settings :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590292006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 After a lot of research, tweaks and A LOT of reading on the web i've found that the best solution for us vista users is to dual boot with xp.I've installed GTAIV on vista and on xp and wow, the difference. On vista i got 20-24 FPS (choppy, slow, no fun) On xp i get 35-60 fps (avg of 40, rarely under 30) you can see my specs on my sig + my cpu is oc to 3.6. I've uploaded my settings, maybe it will help someone with the same settings :) I'm getting 25-45 fps after the patch in vista with my puny non oc'd x2 5600+....I did used to dual boot with xp and noticed no difference in any games so I really doubt it would help at all for me. my traffic density is only 16 though, but then again your processor at 3.6 ghz runs circles around mine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590293784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted December 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 20, 2008 mrk: I'll give those settings a try. So far I've overclocked my E6750 to 3.2 GHz and added an additional 4GB of RAM. This time around, the game better run good. By the way, has anyone tried the game on a Core i7 system? Yes. Core i7 920 @ 3.61Ghz/ 6GB RAM/Radeon 4850 512MB/Vista x64 Game runs like a dream at about a constant 30fps with all graphics maxed except medium texture detail and view distance (1600x1200). Couple of glitches here and there, but nothing to stop or annoy gameplay whatsoever. Am on the last couple of missions now and have had no game crashes or showstoppers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590293800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J400uk Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Yes. Core i7 920 @ 3.61Ghz/ 6GB RAM/Radeon 4850 512MB/Vista x64Game runs like a dream at about a constant 30fps with all graphics maxed except medium texture detail and view distance (1600x1200). Couple of glitches here and there, but nothing to stop or annoy gameplay whatsoever. Am on the last couple of missions now and have had no game crashes or showstoppers. What graphics card do you have? I ALSO noticed :- That car interior lights go on and off when the doors are opene:D:D - That when you leave the car door open at night or with lights on the drivers side goes *BONG BONG BONG!:D:D Do you only get those two functions with a high end graphics card or something? I cannot get either to work for the life of me. Current Specs - E6320 - 8800GT 256 - 4GB - 1024x768 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590295566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 To add motion blur, depth of field and reduce the graininess of shadows and aliasing press 'P'. I hated it at first, couldn't imagine playing without it on now though. Same here it hurt my eyes at first, but after a couple minutes it's fine and makes the game look MUCH better imo. It makes the buildings in the background look much more realistic and amkes the game feel smoother Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590295584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasoosh Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 ^ because you gain a few FPS. i think it looks like crap, though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590295594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted December 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 20, 2008 Yes! Managed to finish the game in 22 hours in slide show mode. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590295890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted December 20, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 20, 2008 What graphics card do you have? Radeon 4850 512MB. Slightly overclocked. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590295900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted December 20, 2008 Reviews Share Posted December 20, 2008 What graphics card do you have?Do you only get those two functions with a high end graphics card or something? I cannot get either to work for the life of me. Current Specs - E6320 - 8800GT 256 - 4GB - 1024x768 No idea dude, maybe it's related to settings being used ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/690176-gta-iv-for-pc-official/page/28/#findComment-590296004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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