arrrgh Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Anyone taking bets on how many front wing replacements there is going to be in the first GP? If some guys (Rosberg) managed to wreck the previous rather compact and sturdy looking wing (relatively speaking) twice in the same race I think teams would better be stockpiling wings already.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590461780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted January 22, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted January 22, 2009 Anyone taking bets on how many front wing replacements there is going to be in the first GP? If some guys (Rosberg) managed to wreck the previous rather compact and sturdy looking wing (relatively speaking) twice in the same race I think teams would better be stockpiling wings already.. It wouldn't surprise me if half of the field had to pit for new noses after the first lap of the Australian GP. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590463642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaris Veteran Posted January 22, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted January 22, 2009 De la Rosa: No fears over KERS safety. Hamilton encouraged by first '09 test. Seems like Lewis likes the MP4-24! Trulli: New cars very difficult in wet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590463722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00nta Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I doubt this is something to be concerned about - then again it is F1 we're talking about.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7848504.stm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590475620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00nta Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7876889.stm For once I'm in agreement with Max Mosely - the GPDA need to take a long hard look at themselves, otherwise they might just find they won't need a licence as they don't HAVE a sport. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590545770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaris Veteran Posted February 8, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted February 8, 2009 Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, all that is going on, is that money is slowing up, and they are doing this quick fix to fill in the budgetary gaps. Not good on the drivers, how can anyone justify a five-fold increase? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590545964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibby Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 The way it's done just seems pointless. They might as well get the teams to all pay a one off fee. If it's for the safety, then why should the people that score points pay for the likes of Nakajima who is a bit reckless. Really the FIA should use it's revenue stream from F1 to fund such stuff or ask a teams to pay an equal amount each. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590546202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted March 11, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted March 11, 2009 Time to revive this thread. Testing times of today, March 11 2009: Pos Driver Team Time Laps 1. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:19.127 124 2. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:20.168 109 3. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:20.217 109 4. Glock Toyota TF109 (B) 1:20.410 99 5. Alonso Renault R29 (B) 1:20.863 107 6. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:21.165 102 7. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.324 89 8. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:21.545 97 9. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.569 140 10. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:21.657 82 With today's and the previous day's result I'd start becoming very worried as a McLaren fan. They're too far off the pace and experimenting too much two weeks before the first GP still. Biggest surprise: Brawn GP. Button's 1:19 wasn't a show lap to attract sponsors either; according to posts on the Autosport forum he's done long-ish stints with times in the high 1:20s/low 1:21s today - which is really impressive for a car which has only seen a few days of testing so far. They have the potential to be the biggest surprise of the season. In a way Brawn GP is a return to the roots of F1: An English privateer team with customer engine and a limited budget. It worked for Lotus, Tyrrell, Brabham, Williams et al. in earlier decades - I don't see why it shouldn't work for Brawn now. Edit: Mods: Could you unpin the 2008 thread and pin this one please? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590692484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsbury Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 You've maybe all seen this, but, worth a watch... 2009 car changes by S Vettel Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590692740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashG Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 New safety car rules for 2009 New safety car rules for 2009FIA race director Charlie Whiting has confirmed that the safety car rules have been altered for the 2009 season. The previous regulations, which saw the pit lane closed for a period of time after the safety car?s deployment, came under intense scrutiny last year after several drivers were penalised for pitting to avoid running out of fuel. The revisions for 2009, however, will see the pit lane remain open at all times. But to prevent drivers rushing back to the pits (the reason for the original rule change), a new electronic system, which uses the standard engine control unit (ECU), will be implemented. ?The rule introduced in 2007 was a bad one, and we?ve gone back to the 2006 regulations,? Whiting explained. ?The only difference is we intend to implement a minimum time back to the pits. When we deploy the safety car, the message will go to all the cars, which will then have a ?safety car? mode on their ECUs. ?As soon as that message gets to the car, it?ll know where it is on the circuit, and it?ll calculate a minimum time for the driver to get back to the pits. The driver will have to respect this and the information will be displayed on his dashboard. ?If you remember, the reason we closed the pit entry was to remove the incentive for the driver to come back to his pit quickly. That?s gone now, as you won?t be able to reach the pits any quicker than your dashboard display allows you to.? The teams have already sampled a version of the new system after taking part in a trial, which was held during the 2008 French Grand Prix weekend. Source I like this method better than last seasons rules. For one main reason, it keeps you from being screwed if you didn't pit before the SC and are about to run out of fuel. Although it'll be interesting to see how many penalties result from gtoothe pits a little too quickly. Can't hardly wait for the season to start. Only 15 more days till Melbourne (first practice session anyway). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590692808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.mcman Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 oh man, I can't believe it's just 15 more days. :jump: I hope McLaren and BMW will do good and their ugly cars will be fast. Also, thumbs up for the new safety car rule, looking forward for a demonstration. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590696178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashG Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I hope all the changes really do help to make passing easier. Also hope that several teams are able to battle for the top spots not just the "big" teams. Of course we won't really know how each team measures up until 3-4 races into the season, then we'll have a good idea where they stand. This could be quite an interesting and exciting season. I hope BMW and Renault do well again this season, I'd really like to see (at least) a 4 team battle for the championship and not just a Ferrari McLaren fight. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590696530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted March 12, 2009 Veteran Share Posted March 12, 2009 I can't wait, all these car changes means more exciting and surprising races! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590696588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted March 12, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted March 12, 2009 Today's testing times: Pos Driver Team Time Laps 1. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:18.926 110 2. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:19.774 120 3. Glock Toyota (B) 1:20.091 128 4. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:20.576 83 5. Alonso Renault (B) 1:20.664 64 6. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:20.677 92 7. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:20.740 134 8. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.869 70 9. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.013 62 10. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:21.045 141 11. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.629 27 :blink: @ Barichello's lap time. Almost 2 seconds faster than Hamilton? Wow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590696642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaris Veteran Posted March 12, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted March 12, 2009 Another impressive day for Brawn-Mecedes! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590696654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_ph0enix Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I'm super-hyped for the 2009 / 10 season, mostly 'cause of the move to the BBC. On the off chance any of you haven't read this yet, here's an update from the BBC, laying out their plans for qualifying / test sessions, etc: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/7755219.stm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590696702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Wow, I'm surprised at Brawn-Mercedes! Topping the session yesterday and again today! I'm getting even more excited for the new season now thanks to this! 2009 is going to be a really interesting season. If Brawn can keep this up, perhaps we might see Jenson Button as a possible contender for the title this year? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590696764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 can anyone add a poll like in the f1 2007 and f1 2008 thread please? that would be nice Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590700408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashG Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) can anyone add a poll like in the f1 2007 and f1 2008 thread please? that would be nice I'm sure there will be one once someone makes a Official 2009 F1 thread. Here's some news about the Ross Brawn team: Rubens Barrichello Q&A: We will be the surprise of 2009 Robert Kubica Q&A: Brawn could be BMW?s biggest challenger Felipe Massa Q&A: Brawn threat is genuine Time will tell, but as a new team and a new car they do look quite strong in testing. Edited March 13, 2009 by CrashGordon Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590701644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibby Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 no one has said anything about Mercedes doubting the pace of their own car! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590704016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashG Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 no one has said anything about Mercedes doubting the pace of their own car! Since you asked for it, here it is. :p McLaren: We can make up performance shortfall McLaren have admitted that their 2009 car is unlikely to challenge for victory at the season-opening Australian Grand Prix, following its lacklustre testing times in Spain this week. However, the team insists the MP4-24?s problems are fixable. World champion Lewis Hamilton and team mate Heikki Kovalainen languished in the lower half of the timesheets throughout the four days at the Circuit de Catalunya, prompting the team to concede that they may not be competitive in time for Melbourne. ?This week the car has run in Barcelona with an updated aero package, as we had always planned it would, and a performance shortfall has been identified that we are now working hard to resolve," said team principal Martin Whitmarsh. McLaren are now hoping that an additional test next week - a luxury most of their rivals don?t have - will allow them to pinpoint the downforce issues before the team departs their Woking base for the Albert Park race at the end of this month. ?We aim to continue to develop the car, and the result should be measurable on the stopwatch,? added Whitmarsh. ?Will MP4-24 be as quick as we want it to be by March 29? Perhaps not. Will it be quicker than it has been this week at the Barcelona test? Yes. Will it improve as we develop its aero and thereby address its problems in the coming weeks and months? Most certainly." Mercedes-Benz Motorsport?s Norbert Haug, who also saw his company?s engines top the Barcelona timesheet courtesy of Ross Brawn?s new team, echoed Whitmarsh?s comments, insisting McLaren are quite capable of coming from behind to challenge for the title. "We have fixed problems together in the past and we will succeed in doing it again,? he said. ?Expect us to fight back even if it takes some time. If we were not be capable of building competitive Formula One cars, we would not have won one third of all Grands Prix during the past four years." McLaren?s final pre-season test runs from March 15-18 at Jerez in Spain. Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590704028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Oh no. :( Just seen on Sky Sports News that the championship is going to be decided on race wins now instead of points. This is seriously gonna F things up now. :( http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5063206,00.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590719158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourjays Veteran Posted March 17, 2009 Veteran Share Posted March 17, 2009 A driver wins 2 races and bins the car for the rest. Another guy wins 1 and comes 2nd in all other races. Second driver is clearly better but the first still wins? :hmmm: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590719302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 A driver wins 2 races and bins the car for the rest. Another guy wins 1 and comes 2nd in all other races. Second driver is clearly better but the first still wins? :hmmm: Exactly. It could happen, but it shouldn't. Does anyone here know of another racing championship that uses this system and is still going strong today? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590719326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashG Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Can't say that I like the new rule change on who wins the championship. Use points to decide the winner and finishes to determine ties like usual. Off topic: Congrats Fourjays on the staff position. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/691544-looking-ahead-formula-1-world-championship-2009/page/4/#findComment-590719328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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