Windows 7 build 7000 (Beta 1) QnA!

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Radeon X1200... it's bottom end integrated graphics card

Chances are Windows Update still has the same old driver that can be detected in Vista. Nvidia and ATI still have not officially released their Win7 drivers, rather they are just previews that beta testers like us could use for the time being. Once they do finalize these versions, count on them being able to be detected through Windows Update.

Weird... mine shows 1.0. I guess your card does have the required specs.

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I upgraded my ATI drivers from the stock ones that ATI W7 preview drivers, after the upgrade my system won't boot. I tried to bootup into safemode and it hangs at CLASSPNP.SYS , I've tried to repair and do a boot with last known good configuration and none of them boot, the system hangs at the "Starting Windows" screen, there's no glowing orbs or anything. No HDD activity. Suggestions for repair?

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I upgraded my ATI drivers from the stock ones that ATI W7 preview drivers, after the upgrade my system won't boot. I tried to bootup into safemode and it hangs at CLASSPNP.SYS , I've tried to repair and do a boot with last known good configuration and none of them boot, the system hangs at the "Starting Windows" screen, there's no glowing orbs or anything. No HDD activity. Suggestions for repair?

Let's hope you installed this as a secondary OS. Windows Vista drivers should work in Windows 7.

I've tested this all myself, I have Windows 7 Beta 1 installed along with all my drivers fully installed and i'm using Vista Nvidia drivers so ATI is exactly the same and ATI uses .NET Framework so shouldnt be a problem.

Try logging into Vista and deleting ATI files manually then loggin back into Windows 7 to allow it to install default system files, then using Windows update and it will automatically install the 3d drivers.

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Let's hope you installed this as a secondary OS. Windows Vista drivers should work in Windows 7.

I've tested this all myself, I have Windows 7 Beta 1 installed along with all my drivers fully installed and i'm using Vista Nvidia drivers so ATI is exactly the same and ATI uses .NET Framework so shouldnt be a problem.

Try logging into Vista and deleting ATI files manually then loggin back into Windows 7 to allow it to install default system files, then using Windows update and it will automatically install the 3d drivers.

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I am not sure if that works, since there might even more problems that result from improper deletion of files like that. Plus, there will surely be undeleted registry keys that may remain active.

My solution would be to try to login into Vista and just delete the Win7 partition altogether. Then simply reinstall Win7 freshly, run Windows Update, and use the ATI driver it detects. That driver will be the same as the Vista driver.

If you installed the Win7 as your primary partition, then it looks like your only option is to get ahold of one of your vista recovery CDs and reinstall Vista again. If you don't have one, you can download a copy of the Vista ISO somewhere and burn it onto a bootable DVD on another computer. After reinstalling Vista, create another partition and install Win7 again.

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W7 is a primary OS on a backup machine, unfortunately I can't log into any other OS as there's none installed. Is there anyway to bypass the CLASSPNP.SYS when loading safemode in W7 as thats were is hangs. When doing a repair of the OS through the built in repair menu it fails to fix anything.

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W7 is a primary OS on a backup machine, unfortunately I can't log into any other OS as there's none installed. Is there anyway to bypass the CLASSPNP.SYS when loading safemode in W7 as thats were is hangs. When doing a repair of the OS through the built in repair menu it fails to fix anything.

I am not sure how to bypass it, but it looks like you will have to reinstall windows again since system restore does not seem to be working.

Maybe give this a shot...Repair Tool. I can't vouch for it in any way, but it might work.

Here is another potential solution:

On startup, if the loading stuck or stopped while loading classpnp.sys (or to small extent fvevol.sys), or simply displays the infamous BSoD (Blue Screen of Death), the problem is probably due to ACHI support. To resolve the issue, restart the computer and go to BIOS, and then change the setting from ACHI mode to IDE mode. Users can re-enable the ACHI after performing the generalization process below.
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I'm sure there is a way to manually delete the ati files one by one, i have done this myself before, yes there will be stuff left in the registry but this should not stop Windows from loading, plug backup drive into Vista machine and search on the net how to delete file by file, I'm sure there are pages around:

Why not run Driver cleaner and run it on a specified location, I'm sure that will work. Its a utility that scans a drive for drivers.

Run Vista, open cmd.exe, type the command "del ati*.* /s" but specifiy the location of the backup drive and it will delete everything with ati*.*, This might work. Give it a go.

Whatever you do, do not run this command off your C:/ drive or you will delete vista files and not your Win7 drive files.

If your backup drive was E:/del ati*.* /s

Hope all goes ok.

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Fair enough. I can see where this is going in future iterations and I quite like it, just wish the old stuff hadn't been depreciated without a universal replacement with appropriate fallbacks

One last point. I can no longer filter by multiple options for the same property without resorting to inserting an OR in the search box. An example would be in Vista it's very fast to filter the types displayed to just pdfs and jpgs by ticking a couple of boxes. The search box won't give me a second type: filter automatically

You can still filter via the column headers as before in details mode.

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Examinus

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Wouldn't it be possible to simply browse for the external network drive after connecting to it and then add the location to the Libraries? I was able to index another partition on your computer or other external drives through this option without any hassle.

From what I understand you can, but because it won't be indexed it will reduce Explorer to a crawl. :(

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W7 is a primary OS on a backup machine, unfortunately I can't log into any other OS as there's none installed. Is there anyway to bypass the CLASSPNP.SYS when loading safemode in W7 as thats were is hangs. When doing a repair of the OS through the built in repair menu it fails to fix anything.

Just let it do it's thing. After a while it should finally get past that.

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WDDM 1.1 is supported only on DX10 capable cards. The X-series of Radeon cards (up to X1950) are DX9 only - you need HD-series (HD2000, 3000 and 4000 series), which support DX10. The ATI preview drivers for Windows 7 also support only the HD series of Radeons.

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WDDM 1.1 is supported only on DX10 capable cards. The X-series of Radeon cards (up to X1950) are DX9 only - you need HD-series (HD2000, 3000 and 4000 series), which support DX10. The ATI preview drivers for Windows 7 also support only the HD series of Radeons.

Thanks, I was wondering why Windows Update only installed WDDM 1.0 for my x1950.

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The help text hasn't yet been finished. At this point, libraries only support indexed locations. There are ways around this (if you add it via WMP it will get added to your library, but it will severely degrade the Explorer libaries experience).

If the network share is on a Windows PC, you can install Windows Search 4 on it and index the share on the server side. Then your Win7 machine will be able to remotely query that index to provide the full rich libraries experience.

Another option that works for any network share is to use the Offline Files feature, which creates a local cache of the files that will always be indexed.

Argh, this just won't do. I have a huge network drive attached to my wireless router that contains pretty much all my music, photos, video, even documents and more. At least in Vista I could manage the music for example in WMP11 separately, but now that WMP is integrated, if I add these it will "degrade the Explorer libraries experience." Is there an option to let WMP use its own separate library?

Since something happened to my Vista drive and I can't boot into it anymore, W7 will be my primary OS and I need fluid access to my mapped drive. I'm sure there's an add-in for Vista that allows networked files to be indexed, why not Seven? I thought the Search was the same, WDS 4?

Please, Brandon, say something to make me breathe a sigh of relief

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You mean the gadget? I noticed that too, it seems it updates less frequently.

yep thats what i ment, i allways enabled the sidebar on vista so i could have a look wheter my CPU is busy or not

that in combination with no sidebar seems like a step backwards, i hope its just a bug

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gregrocker

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Ugh, I removed a partition and now I can not get that new boot screen. Anyone have any ideas what might be causing it? Right now the only os I have on the machine is W7.

I lose the W7 custom bootscreen every time I change out another partition. The only solution is to reinstall. Likewise my activation on Vista, requires reactivating after adding new partition. If you want a gadget which gives you a visual on your desktop of your activation status, or countdown to rearm (in W7 case), there is a decent one on Pirate Bay.

Has anyone else had a problem with the gadgets now showing after a while? When I right click on the desktop and click gadgets, nothing activates.

You must have your User Account Control on at least the minimum setting in order to use gadgets in W7.

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gregrocker

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I tried to install it but everytime I get a 0x80070570 error about a file being corrupt and stops at 52%, I've wasted 2 lightscribe DVDs so far and I even spent 30 minutes customising and labeling one of them :( . I've no idea whats going wrong, I even re-downloaded it.

just mount it to a virtual drive using Magic Disk and install into a freshly formatted partition. no need to waste a DVD until we see if there is another release before beta activation in January.

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