danisflying527 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 No it isn't you're losing p2p soon unless they canceled that.Anyway expect to see some company like mcafee or the people that make avast or some random programmer release something that blocks you from this within a week. Anyway thank god im in the US. WERE LOSING P2P? omg Australia u r tex suxxorz im anowe move 2 americas and rip off australia movie tat suxed 2. No wonder since we have a fugly old man as our Head man when you guys get an awesome black guy Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590362014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denholm Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 ^ :laugh: If only Australia had Michael J. "Crocodile" Dundee as Prime Minister, all the Australian Internet problems would be fixed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590362018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTD Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 So get a Mac. Anyway, I feel sorry for UK residents. This is getting ridiculous. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590362048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whinges Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) WERE LOSING P2P?omg Australia u r tex suxxorz im anowe move 2 americas and rip off australia movie tat suxed 2. No wonder since we have a fugly old man as our Head man when you guys get an awesome black guy Yes we are.. Australian Net Filter will include p2p. This filtering will also cause major problems for online gaming. Edited January 5, 2009 by NeonBlue Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590362450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadeater Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Hack the police. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590363440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthfluff Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Not handing over any encryption keys you have comes with a 2 year jail term. So there is pretty much nothing you can do about this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590363458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuffloN Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) Here we go again, yet another lame scheme by the Real Nazi party to spy on people they suspect are doingwrong. Hacking is illegal, so therefore Real Nazi party are condoning hacking. Yes I found it quite amusing that the local supporter of the UK's most facistic party (and sadly, the ruling one) is the one saying "Bring it" when it comes to the (police) state wanting to "ensure public safety". Now if you excuse me, I'm Swedish and I have to go make plans for some revolutions, the ******* over here are trying similar ****, and I'm way too liberal to allow it, brb making C4. EDIT: Yes, that last part was a implied terrorist joke for those sarcastically challenged :) (Or is it? *dun dun dun*) Edited January 5, 2009 by MuffloN Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590363468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I'm not the slightest bit worried... Apart from not actually having anything they'd be interested in on my HD, how the hell are they going to get past.. a) My Router, with it's internal firewall and NAT. b) My wifi encryption, especially as only registered MAC addresses are even allowed to talk to my router c) My software firewall d) My locked down ports e) My lack of enabled remote services they could connect to And no, I never ever open email attachments, no matter who they're from. If someone wants to send me a file, they do it via other means... As someone suggested earlier, this has been suggested but some idiot backbencher who's seen one too many episodes of Spooks and has no idea of how computers actually work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590364294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuffloN Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I'm not the slightest bit worried... Apart from not actually having anything they'd be interested in on my HD, how the hell are they going to get past..a) My Router, with it's internal firewall and NAT. b) My wifi encryption, especially as only registered MAC addresses are even allowed to talk to my router c) My software firewall d) My locked down ports e) My lack of enabled remote services they could connect to And no, I never ever open email attachments, no matter who they're from. If someone wants to send me a file, they do it via other means... As someone suggested earlier, this has been suggested but some idiot backbencher who's seen one too many episodes of Spooks and has no idea of how computers actually work. Well, just thought I'd let you know, MAC filtering is absolutely worthless today as even the stupidest script kiddie can bypass it with ease, and WEP/WPA(1) Encryption on the WiFi is also crackable nowdays, WPA2-PSK/PMK (14+ with lower, upper, special and numbers) or a PEAP RADIUS server would be the best and your firewall, locked down ports and lack of remote services, hardware firewalls and NAT will do very little against a good MITM attack combined with undetectable exploits (Yes, there are such, plenty of them). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590364432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamanXplosion Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 (N) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590364654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denholm Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Welcome to the new 'world order' :ermm: Soviet Earth - all your bytes are belong to big brother. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590364656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Well, just thought I'd let you know, MAC filtering is absolutely worthless today as even the stupidest script kiddie can bypass it with ease, and WEP/WPA(1) Encryption on the WiFi is also crackable nowdays, WPA2-PSK/PMK (14+ with lower, upper, special and numbers) or a PEAP RADIUS server would be the best and your firewall, locked down ports and lack of remote services, hardware firewalls and NAT will do very little against a good MITM attack combined with undetectable exploits (Yes, there are such, plenty of them). WPA2-PSK is exactly what I use, with a virtually uncrackable key, which I change regularly. Plus, you're assuming the UK police actually have IT experts. Most of them don't even know the difference between a Playstation and a PC... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590364682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asharae Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 This is pathetic, how would they get into our computers though? I mean if they send me an email going "We are the poli... oops I mean Facebook, click me!" aren't we all going to be able to tell? And if you can't, then you don't deserve to have a computer :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590364688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuffloN Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 WPA2-PSK is exactly what I use, with a virtually uncrackable key, which I change regularly.Plus, you're assuming the UK police actually have IT experts. Most of them don't even know the difference between a Playstation and a PC... Well excellent then, I'd recon that MITM attacks on Wireless would be the #1 way for the police to attack someone after trying remote exploits. Besides, the police in Sweden at least got some good people, however they are few, I guess this would be something they'd be able to script/automize heavily, they'd make a "all in one wonder script" where they'd input a email, IP address and similar stuff and a dedicated machine would send infected attatchements in emails, try standard remote exploits (that any firewall will kill off) and be done with it. Assuming they just don't break in and install a software/hardware keylogger. P.S: <3 Wardriving, it's damn good fun! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590364816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 .....ask your government..... "who's got the Crack?" Rofl. this song is fitting to this absurd law... "I liked it when you slipped me a roofie, I liked it when you got the crack.....Whoo's got the Crack? Whooooos got the crack??" :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590364906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevember Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 WPA2-PSK is exactly what I use, with a virtually uncrackable key, which I change regularly.Plus, you're assuming the UK police actually have IT experts. Most of them don't even know the difference between a Playstation and a PC... Its not basic street bobby that will do it! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590365012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Its not basic street bobby that will do it! No, it's their IT specialists. The guys that MIGHT be able to plug a 360 controller in the right way around. If you show them how, and have pictures... In crayon... :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590365028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ID2 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Moreover...Look, I have twice had to deal with the Police in the UK related to what would be termed "Internet crimes". Twice, at 2 different companies we have needed to involve the police. We knew nothing would come of it, but for the sake of being seen to do the right thing, we did it. They are bumbling nincompoops at best. Each time, the first officer taking the report just looked lost and out of his depth. Then it gets referred to the "person who knows a bit about IT". This person has assumptions based upon the fact they understand what a bookmark is and have a mate who runs a website. After complaining, it gets escalated to someone with some level of power but no level of understanding. Then you push for 6 months, and give up because you have what you needed - a crime report number. Seriously. Someone in the government with little understanding beyond what they have seen on Spooks, has suggested this. A bunch of back-benchers who justify themselves by running with the pack have agreed. It gets passed as a law. Police stations will receive a ?2000 5 page document detailing it, and the promise of training and new PC. Training will never be given, but the PC will arrive. It will sit boxed for 3 months, then someone will set it up. It will be used for emailing, left unsecured, and possibly a little solitaire. The general police will have no idea about any of the above. The general police are of the Keystone variety or worse, but isn't there a new breed of intelligent, highly educated Mr & Mrs Plods out there in the world of specialized policing? What about Echelon? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590365090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthfluff Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 "He said the authorities could break into a suspect?s home or office and insert a ?key-logging? device into an individual?s computer." So is that officially all of our rights out of the window then? Not only do they have free access to your computer, but also your home. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590366140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt-DavidW Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 "He said the authorities could break into a suspect’s home or office and insert a “key-logging” device into an individual’s computer."So is that officially all of our rights out of the window then? Not only do they have free access to your computer, but also your home. All that without a warrant! We can thank our authoritarian Home Secretary Jacqui Smith for this move. Along with her ideas for ID cards, the DNA database, 42-day detention without charge, increased CCTV, and moving cannabis from Class C to Class B. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590366246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthfluff Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 All that without a warrant!We can thank our authoritarian Home Secretary Jacqui Smith for this move. Along with her ideas for ID cards, the DNA database, 42-day detention without charge, increased CCTV, and moving cannabis from Class C to Class B. Yup, all of that on a 'hunch', suspicion, or maybe because you skipped in line in front of some irritated policeman in Tesco. To be honest, I can't really see any more things they can take from us. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590366278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnDewCodeRedFreak Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Haha glad I'm not in the UK. Otherwise, it'd be a living hell. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590366308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I may support Labour but measures like this are not good for the country. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590366318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlibbyFlobby Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I may support Labour but measures like this are not good for the country. Are national ID cards, a DNA database and a phone call and email database good for the country too? It's just needless and intrusive collection of personal data that will promptly be burnt to a CD and left on a train. The days of being able to support Labour and privacy have long since passed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590366372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEIST Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Everyone here who's just the least bit surprised or shocked should at the very least read George Orwell's 1984 and if it's just to see what more is headed towards the UK. I used to think the U.S.A. is heading towards turning into a giant Big Brother theme park, but good old little Great Britain is outpacing them by lightyears. Your rights to privacy have been dead for a while now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/717162-police-set-to-step-up-hacking-of-home-pcs/page/2/#findComment-590368138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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