Windows 7 Official Public Beta

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Kevinul

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Wow. I tried lowering RAM to 256MB under VirtualBox and Windows7 is surprisingly responsive and *shock/horror* useable. I can't imagine doing this with Vista.

Yes, this is the case as the Windows team wanted Windows 7 to be compatible with the ASUS, and other $500 USD and less notebooks for countries such with in Africa, and others.

I installed on my laptop also and i think this will be a worth while upgrade from xp.

You've made Microsoft happy that if you would stay at Windows 7, and will never downgrade like what you've might have done Windows Vista.

I'll wait till the public beta, but if they're servers for whatever reason is under load to the point where I can only download less than 80 KB/s then I'll see what a torrent offers. I'm hoping for at least the Windows 7 Key so I can start seeing what I can develope on it as I'm just a student. I might have another source of obtaining a copy, but that's not garunteed.

This thread has been very busy, and I hope all of you people who have the copy now, or later will give them feedback they can use instead of your one sentence opinion.

I'll see if I can develope some touch-screen programs, and does anyone have a computer that is compatible with Windows 7 Touch? ;)

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Denholm

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Win 7 Beta 1 working well here. Some Application compatibility snags and some user interface things that seem a bit wrong, but overall Win 7 Beta 1 is solid, fast and reliable - more so than Vista SP1. Which is a positive surprise, however, Win 7 is not ready for prime time just yet.

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Kevinul

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Win 7 Beta 1 working well here. Some Application compatibility snags and some user interface things that seem a bit wrong, but overall Win 7 Beta 1 is solid, fast and reliable - more so than Vista SP1. Which is a positive surprise, however, Win 7 is not ready for prime time just yet.

Ah, good. I'll be more influenced to ditch any virtual machine of Windows 7, and head towards replacing Vista with a fresh-install. ;)

Obviously it's not ready for primetime, and the beta phase should last till late December, 2009 for the release in 2010 as planned.

You beta testers would have quite enough time to send them valuable feedback, and please due give feedback about the following. :)

  • Crashes
  • Any Bugs
  • Driver Issues
  • Gaming Performance
  • Development of Applications
  • Errors

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Denholm

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Obviously it's not ready for primetime, and the beta phase should last till late December, 2009 for the release in 2010 as planned.

I doubt it will be that long before Win 7 goes final. I think it may well hit store shelves around August, maybe earlier?!

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Inctye

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It will be late 2009 :)

Late 2009 as in close to end of 3rd quarter around Sept/Oct. It's very possible RTM could be done by July or Aug, and from there it takes about two months for OEMs to get it ready for shipping preinstalled in PCs. But, you might not see it in the storeshelves until maybe December.

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Snowl

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The Keys will be up for around 2 days, if its 2.5 million, compare that to neowins total registered members : 219,762 plus around 10,000 guests : 229762. So around 10 neowins would need to go on Microsoft, and they still all would get a key. ;)

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br0adband

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I doubt it will be that long before Win 7 goes final. I think it may well hit store shelves around August, maybe earlier?!

Earlier... as in before June... maybe even before May... it's truly that solid right now that perhaps only a single Release Candidate might be required/warranted, but I fully expect a pre-summer release.

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Thirtythree

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I think Win7 Beta1 is good enough at this point to be a RC. No doubt it will go to RTM by summer. There's too much money involved to prevent it from being on the new systems at Christmas time.

Microsoft has already been working on newer builds so this will not be the last. After the public beta we'll see how many more bugs might come out. Lots of things to test out considering Microsoft will really be pushing this not only to home users but the corporate world as well.

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Churma

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You cannot install Creative XFI drivers downloaded from Creative, you said it works fine? Don't you mean you are downloading the driver via Windows update?

I installed the drivers which came with my card and then used the creative auto update which updated the original driver. This update utility is only available via the shipped software with the hardware. Last night I ran into a snag. I can get all speakers through the THX console and console launcher to detect and say left channel, right channel, right rear, left rear, etc... But audio through the rear channels is not directed from itunes, dvd playback, or any other audio/video program. So I am currently stuck in stereo even though you can get all speakers to playback in diagnostics. I have tried forcing driver 2.18 and it does not help the situation. Until we have an update we are SOL. However, you have full 5.1 playback with Windows 7 32 bit. It is only the Windows 7 x64 where the audio in the rear FAILS! Meh

On another note I have found a new issue with Windows 7 x64 and sleep mode. I was wondering if anyone else has ran into this on the x64 7000 build. I have changed the power settings to performance in the control panel BTW. So basically I put the computer into sleep, it goes into it and then wakes back up almost instantly and then the monitor turns on but turns into a black screen. I do not have this issue with Windows Vista x64 which is also on the same rig. Please let me know if any one of you neowin's have had this issue or have a work around.

************Update**************

What I thought and I brushed off was the video drivers. I was using the alpha 185.20 and changed to the 181.20 Vista 64-bit WHQL and now sleep is working. If anyone is looking for them go here. http://downloads.guru3d.com/GeForce-ForceW...nload-2157.html

Cheers,

Mikee

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Xerxes

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Pity UAC needs to be enabled to use the gadgets... will this be the case with the final builds or is it just a bug?

Pity? how is having a more secure PC a pity? UAC isn't some annoying gimmick to be turned off, it a security feature that should be left on! sure at times it could be extremely annoying in Vista (although personally, I hardly ever see it and I'm happy to leave it turned on) but 7 gives you the option to fine tune it should you still find it annoying.

I dunno what is it with people these days, they bitch and complain about how insecure Windows is, MS listens and trys to fix it and people bitch and complain about how they don't like MS telling them what to do...*arg!*

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MrWhistler

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I installed the drivers which came with my card and then used the creative auto update which updated the original driver. This update utility is only available via the shipped software with the hardware. Last night I ran into a snag. I can get all speakers through the THX console and console launcher to detect and say left channel, right channel, right rear, left rear, etc... But audio through the rear channels is not directed from itunes, dvd playback, or any other audio/video program. So I am currently stuck in stereo even though you can get all speakers to playback in diagnostics. I have tried forcing driver 2.18 and it does not help the situation. Until we have an update we are SOL. However, you have full 5.1 playback with Windows 7 32 bit. It is only the Windows 7 x64 where the audio in the rear FAILS! Meh

On another note I have found a new issue with Windows 7 x64 and sleep mode. I was wondering if anyone else has ran into this on the x64 7000 build. I have changed the power settings to performance in the control panel BTW. So basically I put the computer into sleep, it goes into it and then wakes back up almost instantly and then the monitor turns on but turns into a black screen. I do not have this issue with Windows Vista x64 which is also on the same rig. Please let me know if any one of you neowin's have had this issue or have a work around.

Cheers,

Mikee

just tried, no problems here with performance and sleep issues, workin fine!! :)

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PGHammer

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I installed the drivers which came with my card and then used the creative auto update which updated the original driver. This update utility is only available via the shipped software with the hardware. Last night I ran into a snag. I can get all speakers through the THX console and console launcher to detect and say left channel, right channel, right rear, left rear, etc... But audio through the rear channels is not directed from itunes, dvd playback, or any other audio/video program. So I am currently stuck in stereo even though you can get all speakers to playback in diagnostics. I have tried forcing driver 2.18 and it does not help the situation. Until we have an update we are SOL. However, you have full 5.1 playback with Windows 7 32 bit. It is only the Windows 7 x64 where the audio in the rear FAILS! Meh

On another note I have found a new issue with Windows 7 x64 and sleep mode. I was wondering if anyone else has ran into this on the x64 7000 build. I have changed the power settings to performance in the control panel BTW. So basically I put the computer into sleep, it goes into it and then wakes back up almost instantly and then the monitor turns on but turns into a black screen. I do not have this issue with Windows Vista x64 which is also on the same rig. Please let me know if any one of you neowin's have had this issue or have a work around.

Cheers,

Mikee

That depends on what events are set (usually via the BIOS) to wake the computer up from sleep. In my case, I have the spacebar set to wake the computer (desktop) up; all other events are explicitly disabled Windows Vista and Windows 7 (both x86 and now x64) work exactly the way they are supposed to, including waking from sleep. I too have the X-Fi, and stuck with the drivers (Vista) that came with the card.

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heslo

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Xerxes read the other following posts I've made as to the reasons I want to turn it off and still use gadgets. I swear 90% of the users here just love to troll and attack others for the slightest thing they don't understand. Go back through EVERY post I've ever made here, I've never once bitched about Windows being insecure. So go back from the rock you came from and understand some people don't want to be bothered with screens letting them know they are about to install a piece of software

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atleeit

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I installed the drivers which came with my card and then used the creative auto update which updated the original driver. This update utility is only available via the shipped software with the hardware. Last night I ran into a snag. I can get all speakers through the THX console and console launcher to detect and say left channel, right channel, right rear, left rear, etc... But audio through the rear channels is not directed from itunes, dvd playback, or any other audio/video program. So I am currently stuck in stereo even though you can get all speakers to playback in diagnostics. I have tried forcing driver 2.18 and it does not help the situation. Until we have an update we are SOL. However, you have full 5.1 playback with Windows 7 32 bit. It is only the Windows 7 x64 where the audio in the rear FAILS! Meh

On another note I have found a new issue with Windows 7 x64 and sleep mode. I was wondering if anyone else has ran into this on the x64 7000 build. I have changed the power settings to performance in the control panel BTW. So basically I put the computer into sleep, it goes into it and then wakes back up almost instantly and then the monitor turns on but turns into a black screen. I do not have this issue with Windows Vista x64 which is also on the same rig. Please let me know if any one of you neowin's have had this issue or have a work around.

************Update**************

What I thought and I brushed off was the video drivers. I was using the alpha 185.20 and changed to the 181.20 Vista 64-bit WHQL and now sleep is working. If anyone is looking for them go here. http://downloads.guru3d.com/GeForce-ForceW...nload-2157.html

Cheers,

Mikee

The drivers that come with the card will not let you use all channels, The drivers which are downloaded via Windows update will not update the drivers installed from the CD. 2 Channel even though you have options for 5/6/7 channel, It won't work. And digital is a no go no matter what anyone says. It's a known huge issue.

Sleep mode works for me.

I seriously dont know how anyone installs these drivers :( hem hem

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