dcghost Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Yeah I get that but still, if you don't have over 4 gigs of ram, the extra gig of files for x64 are rendered useless right? Well, if you look some systems don't even use all 4gb if your on x86...i have seen some that do and some that don't. It is not a huge issue to run x64 right now anyway so it should not even be a huge argument...there are some appz like graphics that take advantage...but I saw.. to each their own :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590822884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atleeit Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Yeah I get that but still, if you don't have over 4 gigs of ram, the extra gig of files for x64 are rendered useless right? A system with 4GB and 8GB, not many differences, the memory won't be used. not with the applications to this date as of yet. x86 using 4GB no problem you'll see 3.25GB free, Windows 7 is for testing, you should really still use Vista x64 if you want to be serious with stuff. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590822898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregrocker Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 You guys follow these releases to religiously. I really like Windows 7 but I recently reverted back to XP because some things just don't work well on 7. At least for me, The start up takes forever. 5 minutes to get to the log in screen, Also takes longer to install programs. Def something wrong with your install or config then gdlkng. Even on my oldest 1.2ghz 528 ram machines the boot is just as fast as on the latest core-duos, a tad slower than instant. And the memory management is so tight that 528mb machines can handle light duty multi-tasking just as well as the big dogs. Faster than XP, blows Vista away better than it did by itself. Every build seems to get faster, so far. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590822900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
consume Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Well, if you look some systems don't even use all 4gb if your on x86...i have seen some that do and some that don't. It is not a huge issue to run x64 right now anyway so it should not even be a huge argument...there are some appz like graphics that take advantage...but I saw..to each their own :) Whoops, I meant less than 4 gigs. But yeah i'd download the x64 version if that came out first, it doesn't matter to me because I only have 2 gigs of ram. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590822904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inctye Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Yeah I get that but still, if you don't have over 4 gigs of ram, the extra gig of files for x64 are rendered useless right? It is a common misconception most people still have that they need at least 4GB to use x64 and anything less would result in no benefit. But yes, there are noticeable benefits in running x64 and I can attest to that since my laptop only has only 2GB ram. First off, system tasks run slightly faster and any program that is coded in 64bit will perform better than 32bit. This becomes most noticeable when playing games and running CPU intensive tasks like image rendering. Even with a 32bit app (ex. browsers), you might see a slightly better performance since 64bit is coded to utilize a higher percentage of you RAM to provide for better caching of frequently used programs. In other words, you might notice Firefox opening slightly faster than before. You could still argue the difference may not be much, but small differences go a long way when it comes to computers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590822908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrmgic Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Introspektive, You don't happen to have a samsung hard drive connected to an intel controller, do you? I had a very slow boot issue with 7057 and my samsung hdd that had always been very fast prior to that build. I don't have the issue with my WD 500GB hdd or my OCZ Vertex SSD. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590822914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atleeit Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 It is a common misconception most people still have that they need at least 4GB to use x64 and anything less would result in no benefit. But yes, there are noticeable benefits in running x64 and I can attest to that since my laptop only has only 2GB ram. First off, system tasks run slightly faster and any program that is coded in 64bit will perform better than 32bit. This becomes most noticeable when playing games and running CPU intensive tasks like image rendering. Even with a 32bit app (ex. browsers), you might see a slightly better performance since 64bit is coded to utilize a higher percentage of you RAM to provide for better caching of frequently used programs. In other words, you might notice Firefox opening slightly faster than before. You could still argue the difference may not be much, but small differences go a long way when it comes to computers. Revreddy is right, you still can benefit from using x64 with only 2GB of memory, but the memory allocation works differently resulting in higher allocation then x86. but you will get better performance in x64 applications. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590822920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman-ugh Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I don't care if this build is 7077 or 7105. I for one am waiting for the RC, for all the downloading and backing up and uninstalling and then installing the new build. What is wrong with waiting till the RC comes out (not to mention that the download is quicker from Microsofts server than doing P2P downloading and no errors or the chance of viruses). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590822930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atleeit Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I don't care if this build is 7077 or 7105.I for one am waiting for the RC, for all the downloading and backing up and uninstalling and then installing the new build. What is wrong with waiting till the RC comes out (not to mention that the download is quicker from Microsofts server than doing P2P downloading and no errors or the chance of viruses). The whole point is some or alot of people here like to experiment like testing new builds, that's why they call this Beta/RC, testing purposes only, thus why people like to get all the new builds. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590822946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raj1402 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 build 7048 =RC.1 build 7057=RC.9 build 7068 =RC.91 Build 7077=RC.99??? Build 7105=RC1???? :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590822948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestBeatingHeart Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Where'd you come up with that Raj? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeCSM Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 build 7048 =RC.1build 7057=RC.9 build 7068 =RC.91 Build 7077=RC.99??? Build 7105=RC1???? :( Are you drunk? I wish I was... Anyone seeing anything higher than 89,7% ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLoR1 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 build 7048 =RC.1build 7057=RC.9 build 7068 =RC.91 Build 7077=RC.99??? Build 7105=RC1???? :( no no and no. 7105.winmain = 7077.win7rc = rc-escrow, first build you will see from 71xx series will most likely be 7100 public rc. oh "hi atleeit, where is your 7105?". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregrocker Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 DL seems to be falling apart. Moderator is waiting to pull it til morning. Thinks the uploader might have gone for a walk :hmmm: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Razgriz Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Would Win7 RC1 Build 7077 be safe to use as the primary OS, compared to the latest beta? I heard that RC1 won't expire for much longer (2010?). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLoR1 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 DL seems to be falling apart. Moderator is waiting to pull it til morning. Thinks the uploader might have gone for a walk :hmmm: no, uploader specificaly ASKED not to put it on any public tracker, since she wanted to keep initial number of peers low, or noone will finish. So she might actualy pull the plug because some id specificaly did against her wishes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Reid Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Are you drunk?I wish I was... Anyone seeing anything higher than 89,7% ? lol, just as I read that I went and checked min, and sure enough I just hit 89%, and am now at 89.7. It was doing about 700kb, but it looks like thats all im getting tonight. Why would someone upload this and not let it seed, they probably let it get to 1.0 and just called it quits for the night. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregrocker Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 It is a common misconception most people still have that they need at least 4GB to use x64 and anything less would result in no benefit. But yes, there are noticeable benefits in running x64 and I can attest to that since my laptop only has only 2GB ram. First off, system tasks run slightly faster and any program that is coded in 64bit will perform better than 32bit. This becomes most noticeable when playing games and running CPU intensive tasks like image rendering. Even with a 32bit app (ex. browsers), you might see a slightly better performance since 64bit is coded to utilize a higher percentage of you RAM to provide for better caching of frequently used programs. In other words, you might notice Firefox opening slightly faster than before. You could still argue the difference may not be much, but small differences go a long way when it comes to computers. Too much time debugging for too little gain with 2 gigs here. Going back to 32 bit was like lightning by comparison, and I won't try 64 bit again until I get more than 4 gigs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
timster Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) build 7048 =RC.1build 7057=RC.9 build 7068 =RC.91 Build 7077=RC.99??? Build 7105=RC1???? :( it's RC or it's not RC. there is no definitive. those numbers you post mean absolutely nothing Edited April 8, 2009 by timster Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregrocker Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 no, uploader specificaly ASKED not to put it on any public tracker, since she wanted to keep initial number of peers low, or noone will finish. So she might actualy pull the plug because some id specificaly did against her wishes. So is this a dead issue now? What do you predict? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atleeit Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 no no and no. 7105.winmain = 7077.win7rc = rc-escrow, first build you will see from 71xx series will most likely be 7100 public rc.oh "hi atleeit, where is your 7105?". lol i guess you were right lucky you but noone has completed it yet :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregrocker Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Would Win7 RC1 Build 7077 be safe to use as the primary OS, compared to the latest beta?I heard that RC1 won't expire for much longer (2010?). As a rule no beta should be used as a primary O.S., however Win7000 is so stable it can easily be used and you need to judge the subsequent leaked "daily builds" based on how they perform on your individual machine. I have 7068 on two machines (stable) and have had to revert to 7000 partition on two others which have persistent wifi and explorer bugs on subsequent builds. I believe that the final Release Candidate will have a March or later 2010 expiry as do 7057 and 68. The RC will also be debugged sufficiently that it should be stable as 7000, and hopefully better. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peeyush Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Would prefer waiting for RC possibly due of Apr 10th. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikikrash Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Still waiting for x64..... ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrmgic Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 7068 x64 has been stable on my workstation at the office and on my home PC. However, I wouldn't trust it to a mission critical system unless you can afford some down time and have adequate backups. Use at your own risk, basically.. but never without a backup. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/756700-windows-7-build-7077-due-todaytonight/page/17/#findComment-590823076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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