UncleSpellbinder Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 The bottom line is that the orb is here to stay, at least in Vista and 7. Some love it, some hate and some couldn't care less. As I said earlier, Microsoft cannot ever hope to make all of us happy with every aspect of 7. Love it or hate it, the orb is here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590854972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Perhaps make the orb transparent so what ever color you have on your taskbar, thats the color the orb will be? May be remove all color from the orb and just have it white Maybe not transparent, but it shouldn't be difficult at all to make it a color that contrasts well with the background. Although, when I think about it, making it transparent (but with a clearly defined border) like the taskbar tabs might not be so bad. I mean, it'd still be a circle and stand out fairly well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590854974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
consume Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 What does a flag have to do with windows in the first place? I can see the old flag, but thats outdated. After all, having it be transparent would be the right thing, since transparent will be like a "window", to see though, and to have a life with out walls :rofl: Having it just be the flag was just a suggestion. It doesn't really matter what it is as long as it's not the orb it is now. And yeah, it probably won't change but i'd like it to. lol, i like the post below me Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590854978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-Gonzales Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 My psychic abilities tell me someone's about to say "there are round windows" http://images.google.com/images?q=round%20...l=en&tab=wi Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590854980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleSpellbinder Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 http://images.google.com/images?q=round%20...l=en&tab=wi :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590854986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda X Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Its not a window though, its actually an extension of the task bar. (if you really look at it and think. Sure it doesn;t blend in with the taskbar, but rather look separate, but its still technally part of the taskbar)or just call it a menu. but its not a window as theres no command bar, no close buttons, no breadcrumb bar etc. On the contrary! Those things don't make a window. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-Gonzales Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 On the contrary! Who really cares? People will call it what ever they want. Its not a crime. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda X Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Who really cares? People will call it what ever they want. Its not a crime. You fully opt-in to argue with me on the validity on the start menu being a window. When I win you state who really cares? You do obviously or you wouldn't have opted to argue with me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdtaUK Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 come on people, there is no need to argue. We can all agree that the start menu button is not the same as the pinned icons or open windows, and as such should look different. Now you could argue that its time to bring back the start text, to seperate it from the other icons, or make the orb overhang so it does something no other icon can do. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-Gonzales Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 You fully opt-in to argue with me on the validity on the start menu being a window. When I win you state who really cares?You do obviously or you wouldn't have opted to argue with me. No, I just don't want to start a childish argument over what the official name is Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwpenner Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 For those of you complaining, for god's sake go back to Windows 98 if you loved that so much. Do you realize what you're whining about? The start "orb", and do you realize how minor it really is? You press it, and the start menu pops up. Who cares what it looks like FFS, sure it would be nice if it was aesthetically pleasing, and right now it is, but it does what it's supposed to. Do you really need it to say START so you don't confuse it with other icons on the taskbar? Then go back to Windows 98 so you can have your "classic theme" too, cuz apparently Luna was too "fisher-price" for a lot of people... Windows 7 is the natural evolution of the OS, just like everything else in this world evolves; If you don't like change, stop complaining and use what you're comfortable with. Abacii are cheap these days... I for one appreciate the work they've done on Windows 7, as I'm sure many people here do, and I think it will shape up to be Microsoft's best OS yet. The improvements in the UI they've made so far are leaps and bounds over what existed in the past, so I'm going to welcome the changes for their usefulness and not get into a heated argument over a little orb... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-Gonzales Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 the only gripe I have over the orb is the hover over effect needs to be toned down a little. 7057 is a bit to much Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winlonghorn Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Who really cares? People will call it what ever they want. Its not a crime. One thing I know is that I loved the animated flag from that start menu concept in the longhorn days. Subtle animation of the Start Orb Flag would be cool. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda X Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 No, I just don't want to start a childish argument over what the official name is Don't want to start? I simply stated that the start button launched the Start Menu window. (Technically unhides it). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-Gonzales Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 On the contrary! Those things don't make a window. Then why do most people, including microsoft and almost every single tech support center calls it a start menu? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda X Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Then why do most people, including microsoft and almost every single tech support center calls it a start menu? Because a menu resides in the window. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-Gonzales Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Don't want to start? I simply stated that the start button launched the Start Menu window. (Technically unhides it). So you admit its a menu now? What is it? Menu or Window? Can't be both? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda X Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 So you admit its a menu now? What is it? Menu or Window? Can't be both? I just said it was a menu in a window. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleSpellbinder Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 For those of you complaining, for god's sake go back to Windows 98 if you loved that so much. Do you realize what you're whining about? The start "orb", and do you realize how minor it really is? You press it, and the start menu pops up. Who cares what it looks like FFS, sure it would be nice if it was aesthetically pleasing, and right now it is, but it does what it's supposed to. Do you really need it to say START so you don't confuse it with other icons on the taskbar? Then go back to Windows 98 so you can have your "classic theme" too, cuz apparently Luna was too "fisher-price" for a lot of people... Windows 7 is the natural evolution of the OS, just like everything else in this world evolves; If you don't like change, stop complaining and use what you're comfortable with. Abacii are cheap these days...I for one appreciate the work they've done on Windows 7, as I'm sure many people here do, and I think it will shape up to be Microsoft's best OS yet. The improvements in the UI they've made so far are leaps and bounds over what existed in the past, so I'm going to welcome the changes for their usefulness and not get into a heated argument over a little orb... By far the best post regarding the whole orb discussion. Well said, cpenner! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 For those of you complaining, for god's sake go back to Windows 98 if you loved that so much. Do you realize what you're whining about? The start "orb", and do you realize how minor it really is? You press it, and the start menu pops up. Who cares what it looks like FFS, sure it would be nice if it was aesthetically pleasing, and right now it is, but it does what it's supposed to. Do you really need it to say START so you don't confuse it with other icons on the taskbar? Then go back to Windows 98 so you can have your "classic theme" too, cuz apparently Luna was too "fisher-price" for a lot of people... Windows 7 is the natural evolution of the OS, just like everything else in this world evolves; If you don't like change, stop complaining and use what you're comfortable with. Abacii are cheap these days...I for one appreciate the work they've done on Windows 7, as I'm sure many people here do, and I think it will shape up to be Microsoft's best OS yet. The improvements in the UI they've made so far are leaps and bounds over what existed in the past, so I'm going to welcome the changes for their usefulness and not get into a heated argument over a little orb... Best post in the entire topic so far, and I couldn't agree with you more! I absolutely love Windows 7's UI at the moment. Yeah, it's not perfect, but what is? If a new UI comes, then it comes. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 every OS everyone always makes late predictions that MS are gonna stun us with some new UI or special effect we havent known about and everytime its nothing. That being said id love to see a clock or animation on my logon/lock screen, that'd be a nice surprise. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted April 15, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) Its not a window though, its actually an extension of the task bar. (if you really look at it and think. Sure it doesn;t blend in with the taskbar, but rather look separate, but its still technally part of the taskbar)or just call it a menu. but its not a window as theres no command bar, no close buttons, no breadcrumb bar etc. A window DOESN'T have to have a close button, breadcrumb bar, etc. Take a guess. What do you think those WLMessenger toasts are? Heck, since you mentioned the taskbar. The Start button in Vista/7 is also a top level window, which is why it had that bulge in Vista and with a small taskbar in Windows 7. (reference) --------------------------------------------- On topic, I don't mind the Orb in its current state. But they could add some shine to the part of the taskbar behind the orb to visually separate it from the rest of the taskbar. Also, as much as I'd like to see some new theme hit us before RTM, if they really had a theme prepared, tell me - why did they bother messing with the active taskbar button for 7077? Why do those buttons on 7077 look rounder than other builds? And say the leak never happened - what good is it for only MS employees to see these tweaks when they're fully aware that a new theme is in the works? Edited April 15, 2009 by rm20010 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmb219 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I think W7 looks great as it is and it is certainly a success already. I wouldn't be surprised if there are last minute tweaks but it is visually appealing now and the updates to the OS are excellent, libraries for one, more efficient use of hardware too. They hit the nail on the head this time and anything beyond this point is icing on the cake. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qumahlin Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Sorry, but you don't release a new UI in the RTM phase of things. Even Microsoft isn't that stupid. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 what i think.. there wont be a totally new UI.. but yes.. a new theme can be in the making. Ive seen some big irregularities in the current aero theme which hasnt been fixed since the beta.. i dont know why its not being fixed.. maybe because they want to make a new theme.. The only changes are the icons and the start menu.. Wen u mouse over to the show desktop bar.. notice the white shades on the edges of every window open.. they arent equal nor are the well done. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/759486-there-are-rumors-too-that-a-new-ui-is-coming/page/7/#findComment-590855282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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