Subject Delta Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Advantages over the iPhone Lighter (116G vs 133g for the iPhone 3G) Trackball, and other buttons meaning you have the choice of using them if you wish. 3.2MP Camera vs 2 on the iPhone Unlike the iPhone, Can already do MMS out of the box Drag and drop sync, meaning you don't need any bloatware like iTunes. Also, no messy activation procedures. Support for recording video and uploading to Youtube, which the iPhone doesn't yet have You don't have to be on Wifi to use the Youtube app Unlike the iPhone, the Magic can take Micro SD cards, meaning expandable memory The android market is far more open than the iPhone market, meaning a better variety of applications Unlike the iPhone, there is no limit on the amount of apps you can have installed. Android also has a better management system, giving you a pull out list rather than spanning the app icons across multiple virtual screens. Full copy + Paste support Best of all... Android is open, meaning a great modding community Only downer at the moment is that apps cannot be installed to the SD card, but the HTC Magic has a 512MB rom (twice that of the G1). On the G1 about 50MB is usually free for apps, which means the magic should have in the region of 280-300, which would easily accommodate 150 apps or so, far more than most people use. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-590980386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted May 12, 2009 Author Reviews Share Posted May 12, 2009 I use AppManager to backup applications to SD card :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-590980396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I personally use Astro for that, but what I meant is that it doesn't actually let you install apps on the SD card, you have to use the onboard memory. Although on my G1, I use lucidrem's JFmod with Apps2SD Support, I have a 768MB EXT2 app partition on my card, and it works very well Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-590980406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimate99 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Advantages over the iPhone Lighter (116G vs 133g for the iPhone 3G) Trackball, and other buttons meaning you have the choice of using them if you wish. 3.2MP Camera vs 2 on the iPhone Unlike the iPhone, Can already do MMS out of the box Drag and drop sync, meaning you don't need any bloatware like iTunes. Also, no messy activation procedures. Support for recording video and uploading to Youtube, which the iPhone doesn't yet have You don't have to be on Wifi to use the Youtube app Unlike the iPhone, the Magic can take Micro SD cards, meaning expandable memory The android market is far more open than the iPhone market, meaning a better variety of applications Unlike the iPhone, there is no limit on the amount of apps you can have installed. Android also has a better management system, giving you a pull out list rather than spanning the app icons across multiple virtual screens. Full copy + Paste support Best of all... Android is open, meaning a great modding community Only downer at the moment is that apps cannot be installed to the SD card, but the HTC Magic has a 512MB rom (twice that of the G1). On the G1 about 50MB is usually free for apps, which means the magic should have in the region of 280-300, which would easily accommodate 150 apps or so, far more than most people use. WOW, just WOW!! :blink: I was so dead on the iPhone, now I'm reconsidering....but one concern, there are certain apps that I'll be using that I know they are iPhone compatible, don't know if they would work with the Android. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-590985080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Give me a list and I will tell you if there are any Android equivalents, and if so, how much they cost Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-590985500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroday Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I was so dead on the iPhone, now I'm reconsidering....but one concern, there are certain apps that I'll be using that I know they are iPhone compatible, don't know if they would work with the Android. You can browse the Android market here: http://www.cyrket.com/. Try searching for stuff you use on the iphone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-590986102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Advantages over the iPhone Lighter (116G vs 133g for the iPhone 3G) Trackball, and other buttons meaning you have the choice of using them if you wish. 3.2MP Camera vs 2 on the iPhone Unlike the iPhone, Can already do MMS out of the box Drag and drop sync, meaning you don't need any bloatware like iTunes. Also, no messy activation procedures. Support for recording video and uploading to Youtube, which the iPhone doesn't yet have You don't have to be on Wifi to use the Youtube app Same with the iPhone, you can use youtube over WiFi or cell. Unlike the iPhone, the Magic can take Micro SD cards, meaning expandable memory The android market is far more open than the iPhone market, meaning a better variety of applications Unlike the iPhone, there is no limit on the amount of apps you can have installed. Android also has a better management system, giving you a pull out list rather than spanning the app icons across multiple virtual screens. Full copy + Paste support Best of all... Android is open, meaning a great modding community Only downer at the moment is that apps cannot be installed to the SD card, but the HTC Magic has a 512MB rom (twice that of the G1). On the G1 about 50MB is usually free for apps, which means the magic should have in the region of 280-300, which would easily accommodate 150 apps or so, far more than most people use. On the flip side, advantages of the iPhone over the G2: Bigger screen Much more memory for apps (try putting a 500MB app on the Magic) Headphone jack (one of my biggest complaints about the G1/G2) Better quality apps. I should explain this one. The apps on the iPhone are visually nicer, but they're also more responsive and better performing and have a lower load on the CPU and battery. This is largely because of Android's interpreted Dalvik VM which runs application code about 50-100x slower than native code. More apps and better app acquisition experience (App store). The android market is a bit fiddly and has terrible search. I can't even find a world clock app using search. And as a developer, I think the iPhone environment is much nicer to code in, partially because I hate Java and that you can use C/C++ which promotes more portability and code re-use across platforms. Coming soon (some of which negate the disadvantages above): MMS Copy-paste Tethering Desktop-search-like search Bluetooth & dock accessories P.S. I don't own an iPhone, I have a G1 dev phone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-590986360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Headphone jack is a bit annoying, but nothing a very cheap adaptor can't solve. As for the apps, I disagree on that one, I haven't found anything that runs more slowly on Android, as for the app market that is a matter of opinion, my experience with it has been reasonably good. And seriously, how many 300MB apps have you seen in any of the phone's app markets? about 70% of the apps I have installed are under 500K so that is largely irrelevant, but like I said it is pretty easy to root the phone and use an SD card with a larger app partition. But seriously, I am just trying to give the poster facts, "better quality apps" is your opinion not a fact. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-590986782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannes Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 How is the exchange support? I'm thinking calendar syncing, PUSH mail, ... . Will it be able to replace my BB Bold without losing functionality? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591023442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I am not sure if the Exchange support was added to the G1's firmware, so I cannot vouch for that Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591023936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG- Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Had this phone a while now and really happy about it, but confused by HTC's own site on specifications: From the Europe page: Processor Qualcomm? MSM7201a?, 528 MHz Platform Android? Memory ROM: 512 MB RAM: 192 MB And the Global Page: Processor Qualcomm? MSM7200A?, 528 MHz Operating System Android Memory ROM: 512 MB RAM: 288 MB :blink: :blink: I knew there were software differences but what the hell? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591024760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Only guesses are, either the phone in Europe will be slightly different (unlikely) or that one of the 2 where draft specifications that haven't been updated Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591029094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Woo hoo looks like it passed FCC approval and is coming to T-Mobile. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591030256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG- Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Its also been rooted now :) Personally i'm waiting for the standard HTC Rom, the Vodafone one is oh so crippled :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591030898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 That's great news, didn't think rooting would take long. Also, I hope it does come to T-Mobile, I will of course be looking for a successor to upgrade to when my G1 contract is over and I am hoping to stay with Android if possible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591031220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewism Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 How is the exchange support? I'm thinking calendar syncing, PUSH mail, ... . Will it be able to replace my BB Bold without losing functionality? I have read that if you have a Google branded phone (G1 or G2), Exchange won't work. If you have a HTC Magic (non-branded) it will. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591037560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 There is no difference between the 2, the only device that is different is the dev version of the phone with root access enabled, and a slightly different bootloader and firmware (ADP Firmware). However the mods to enable root access on the G1 are pretty easy to perform. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591037868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanManIt Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Wow, nice phone. Hopefully it'll be here in the US before September so I can possibly switch to it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591047100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannes Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I have read that if you have a Google branded phone (G1 or G2), Exchange won't work. If you have a HTC Magic (non-branded) it will. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591049462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG- Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 There is no difference between the 2, the only device that is different is the dev version of the phone with root access enabled, and a slightly different bootloader and firmware (ADP Firmware). However the mods to enable root access on the G1 are pretty easy to perform. Its due to HTC adding Exchange support themselves alongside a few other goodies. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591050072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXTOKERXx Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 gutted i just got my 8900 curve... but then again i love the qwerty keyboard as i type by feel rather than by look. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591050126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 So want this. My Xperia X1 sort of died after being submerged in water. So now I am back to W950, still a good solid phone. And to be honestly, I was kind of getting sick of Windows Mobile anyway. Slow and bloated. So.. bring on G2! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591050174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plague Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Owned it for awhile and hated it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591832450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasethebase Reporter Posted November 11, 2009 Reporter Share Posted November 11, 2009 Owned it for awhile and hated it. I'm going to have to say that doesn't really explain a lot. Why did you hate it so much? I'd love to own one of these as it's the most affordable Android phone available new in the UK at the moment. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591835414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiefloyd_fan Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 /\ lack of tmobile 3g coverage?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769580-htc-magic-phone/page/3/#findComment-591837360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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