username Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 (edited) After seeing many people ask about ripping and encoding audio CDs here, I have decided to make a little tutorial for people who want to make the best possible rips as well as encoding quality. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is used to extract the audio as well as direct the encoding and tagging of the extracted wav files. EAC uses the best in audio extraction and error correction to ensure the highest possible end result. This guide will cover both MP3 and OGG audio compression options. MP3 is the most popular standard with very good transparent quality possible. OGG Vorbis is also used which is a newer compression which delivers better compression then MP3 as well as growing support. I. Downloading needed files. ASPI - allows your CD-ROM to rip audio EAC ? used in ripping, encoding, tagging EAC profiles ? easy setup pre-configuration of EAC LAME MP3 ? the MP3 codec Ogg Vorbis ? the OGG codec II. Installation First install the ASPI files. After installing you must REBOOT for these files to take effect. Second is to install EAC, it will ask you to search for LAME.exe and ask question about audio ripping, skip these as the profiles will take care of this. Next is to install the EAC profiles which should be extracted to the C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\Profiles\ directory. Second is to download and extract the lame.exe and oggenc.exe into the C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\ directory. Now lets get EAC setup to we can start ripping and encoding audio. Let?s first set the default output directory to which you want your encoded files to go. To do this go to File, EAC options, and then the Directory tab and direct EAC where you want your files to go. Next let?s check out your CD-ROM/RW/DVD drive specs to see what ripping methods it supports. Go to File, Drive Options, and then Detect Read Features. You will want to have an Audio CD in the drive now that has a few light scratches so EAC can detect your drives features. Its best to use secure mode but if its too slow for you and you don? care so much about quality and possible clicks, check burst mode. Lastly you need to put in an email address of any kind from the File, freedb settings. It?s also good to update the freedb server listings here too. Now you can select the profile of the format you want encode and click load. Click on the CD icon to get the artists and song title info, make any changes to the genres or enter the date. Next, simply click the MP3 icon on the left to rip and encode to your specifications. This is a work in progress here, just really want people to start using decent audio compression as well as good quality ripps. Edited May 12, 2003 by username Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted May 8, 2003 Veteran Share Posted May 8, 2003 Stuck :) You know you wanted me to :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-841820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastGodSupreme Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 That was a bit brief. You didn't cover the one thing that I had a huge problem with when I first started using EAC: Getting it to use a CONSTANT bitrate instead of a variable one. This is what I finally came up with in my compression options: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-842256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 thats what this thread is all about though, the main purpose it high quality and accurate ripping, as well as encoding options as for CBR, i would go with --alt-preset cbr 160 as the --alt-preset has the best tuned lowpass filter built in Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-842264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 When you rip to ogg, how can you have EAC tag your files? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-852918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animaniac Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 (edited) When using high bitrates (-q5 to -q10) use Oggenc GT3 by gharf over at sjeng.org. Results almost rival Musepack. It fixes "preecho" and allows for better bit allocation. Your URL for LAME also seems to be broken. Latest stable binary can be found here at Rarewares. When ripping with LAME it's better to set it up as an external encoder rather than using the EAC DLL which produces unpredictable results. Secondly, C2 correction should be disabled even if your drive is capable of it. Edited May 12, 2003 by Animaniac Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-852944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivan56 Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Or you can just use CDex which has all of those Codecs built in. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-852958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animaniac Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 When you rip to ogg, how can you have EAC tag your files? I believe tags itself, if you tell it that you're using Ogg Vorbis in the external encoder pane. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-852981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animaniac Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 That was a bit brief. You didn't cover the one thing that I had a huge problem with when I first started using EAC:Getting it to use a CONSTANT bitrate instead of a variable one. This is what I finally came up with in my compression options: Why would anyone use CBR? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-852989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 I believe tags itself, if you tell it that you're using Ogg Vorbis in the external encoder pane. Yeah, just tried it again, and it did tag the files--first time might have been a fluke. I am digging ogg though. :yes: :cool: Just wish there was greater hardware support, and a WMP plug in would be nice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-853014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animaniac Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Yeah, just tried it again, and it did tag the files--first time might have been a fluke. I am digging ogg though. :yes: :cool: Just wish there was greater hardware support, and a WMP plug in would be nice. WMP plug-in via DirectShow filter is availible here: http://tobias.everwicked.com ^_^ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-853137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontrollverlust Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 I'm fond of "--alt-preset standard" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-853139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted May 12, 2003 Author Share Posted May 12, 2003 (edited) When using high bitrates (-q5 to -q10) use Oggenc GT3 by gharf over at sjeng.org.? Results almost rival Musepack.? It fixes "preecho" and allows for better bit allocation. if you notice the profiles i have to download, there is a Ogg GT3 one, thats what i use personally, didn't mention it in the thread because i don't want to get too complicated here When you rip to ogg, how can you have EAC tag your files? If you use the profile, it will tag it automatically, make sure the "add id3 tag" is disbled as well for ogg vorbis should look like this you will want the commant line to be this %s -q 6 -t "%t" -a "%a" -l "%g" -c "comment=EAC: v1 ogg @ q6" -G "%m" -d %y -N %n and you can change the comment tag to you liking Or you can just use CDex which has all of those Codecs built in. but EAC has is more secure ripping for quality, but CDex does the job nice too Edited May 12, 2003 by username Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-853153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 (edited) Is there any good user manuals for encoding with ogg? I recognize some of the parameters that you listed but It'd be nice if there was something that I could look at as a reference and as a means to learn more about this format. edit: Is there anything that I could use in order to join ogg files? I have some classical stuff that I just ripped but the one piece is broken up into movements by track on the CD and I'd like them all to be in one ogg file, if you know what I mean. Or is there a way to rip a grouping of tracks into a single file? Edited May 12, 2003 by Mav Phoenix Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-853213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlazzTT Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 IMHO, you should remove the link to the LAME MP3 codec in the post. It is a link to the source files, not the binaries. You can get LAME and Vorbis MP3 binaries at rarewares.hydrogenaudio.org www.hydrogenaudio.org has lots of tutorials and discussion Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-871267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vassie Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Wrong topic :wacko: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-875634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorbing Posted June 16, 2003 Share Posted June 16, 2003 So what is the difference between EAC and Easy CDDA Extractor or Audiograbber? Don't they do the same thing? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-955136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted June 26, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 26, 2003 thanks guys, I've managed to get much better sounding mp3's just by adding a few command line parameters. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-990365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manni Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 You shouldn't forget Musepack, Case has done tutorial for setting mpcenc for EAC. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-991264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jugaaru Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 How to make AAC audio files on PC Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-1118286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanekiwi Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 all i can say is: --alt-preset standard -Z Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-1240914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason the Eighty Eighth Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 may i just suggest an awesome plugin for Winamp which allows ripping CDAs to MP3s? no need for a software, if you're using Winamp, simply download, install, download the CD-reading applet/patch/plugin and you're set. Chun Yu Shei-'s MP3 Ripper for Winamp (don't ask about the name) Rip CDs to MP3 directly with Winamp! Why use a different program to rip CDs when you can rip them with Winamp? No ACM codec required either! Be sure to grab the CD Reader plugin from http://www.url.ru/~copah/ if you want to rip CDs (and read the help file too). The help file is HTML help, which most versions of Windows should be able to read. If you can't read it, go to www.microsoft.com and get the HTML Help viewer. You can use VBR and ABR encoding and select how to name the output. New in this version: Can add ID3 tags to output. Added option to display speed statistics after encoding each file (don't use it when you want to encode a CD, since a dialog box pops up after each track). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-1258885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DsnBehind Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Why use a different program to rip CDs when you can rip them with Winamp? Because there are more options and settings, with other programs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-1258895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manni Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 How to make AAC audio files on PC Hydrogenaudio wiki: AAC Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-1259065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbet Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Can someone provide a profile for EAC for AAC encoding? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77696-eac-ripping-encoding-tutorial/#findComment-1273389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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