Imran Hussain Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I think he does.Software performance. Yes, CS4 is not a heavy application either, until you open something. WMPC is not a heavy application either until you open an AVI. See the flaw in your argument? See, you are also drawing a line, you acknowledge that a P3 is not good enough for 7. Of course I am. It's weird to still have a working condition P3. It's weirder to install Windows 7 on it. It's even weirder to use it for daily work! And CS4, I assume you're talking about Photoshop. It just requires a good amount of processing power and memory to even load without a long delay without opening anything in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhapimp Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Why can't you just post a screenshot of the performance tab? Is it top sikret?no because I'm at work and I have the same exact(except for the video card) specs as the op and it is faster than xp. Idk if its faster on a p3(which is irrelevent anyways) but it is on the ops comp so stop bringing up bull specs that shouldn't have been in this thread anyways. And its secret not sikret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imran Hussain Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 no because I'm at work and I have the same exact(except for the video card) specs as the op and it is faster than xp. Idk if its faster on a p3(which is irrelevent anyways) but it is on the ops comp so stop bringing up bull specs that shouldn't have been in this thread anyways. And its secret not sikret +1. Stop bringing your beloved P3s in the conversation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 It's okay, I can wait until you get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Of course I am. It's weird to still have a working condition P3. It's weirder to install Windows 7 on it. It's even weirder to use it for daily work! Uhm, I just did it to see what it would be like and so I could post my 0.9 experience index to the EI thread as a joke, not to actually use it. Same reason I did it on my Athlon XP 2500+. In case you're wondering, XP ran better on that too. I know you're going to counter this with a "nowai!!! 7 is a super-duper-ultra-awesome OS and way faster on your awesome Athlon!", but the reality is that it's not and that you're all just deluded cult members. Not quite sure what cult though, as Microsoft itself doesn't claim it's any good for that hardware. Oh well. As for still having a P3, it's not weird at all. Thousands and thousands of them are in daily use. If all I want to do is control a piece of hardware, I don't need anything more. It's not for everyday use (although it could be, if it hadn't been for the issue of browsers being so heavy these days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imran Hussain Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Wow, you're totally disillusioned. You call that guy full of **** because he has a better experience with Windows 7 on hold hardware? Are you out of your mind? Do you expect everyone's experience to be as bad as yours where XP ran faster than 7 on an Athlon ? Really, you got issues. Not everyone is willing to join your hug XP club, so don't force them to either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thartist Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Windows 7 dependes on RAM more than Processor. people still don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Really, you got issues. Not everyone is willing to join your hug XP club, so don't force them to either. I don't have a "hug XP club", in fact I use Vista and 7 99% of the time. I'm just a realist. It's not about a subjective experience, it's simple facts. 7 requires more resources than XP. Also, it's not true that 7 actually has to be faster than XP to provide a better experience. It's perfectly okay if one preferred the look and feel of it even though it was slower, but there's no need to claim that it actually is faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) @Imran Hussain, I can't disagree with anything hdood is saying. :/ Also, I tested and used both systems, W7 requires more and runs slower (7100RC x64 vs XP SP3 and 7057 x64 vs XP x64 SP2). The thing is many people claim such things without ever testing FOR THEMSELVES, then it gets interesting as some hardware DOES run better on Vista driver model - my 2008 cyperpowerpc laptop not being one. I am not sure what is wrong with XP, not many people have more than 128GB ram and more than 32 Core CPU. I think that it is an excellent idea to install W7 on a new computer. Hell, if someone gave me a 4-Core Intel CPU and a NV9800, I would install W7 and never look back. Edited June 13, 2009 by Udedenkz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I think 7 both feels and looks nicer than XP, so I use it over XP. It just feels more modern and polished. Of course, I run it on a modern Core 2 Duo so I really couldn't care less if it's slightly slower or faster than XP, it just doesn't matter on hardware this powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dc'1 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I'd say W7, I think it runs a lot faster than what I can remember XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero_Rising Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Of course I am. It's weird to still have a working condition P3. It's weirder to install Windows 7 on it. It's even weirder to use it for daily work!And CS4, I assume you're talking about Photoshop. It just requires a good amount of processing power and memory to even load without a long delay without opening anything in it. How is it weird to have a working p3 up until last november when I had saved enough money to buy a new laptop my p3 desktop with 512 mb ram and some ancient ati card was my main computer. Not everyone can afford to upgrade every year or two you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhapimp Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 You can gey an better comp for less than 50 dollars I know where you're coming from but to still have p3 is just lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imran Hussain Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Our university used to provide Acer Notebooks with a 1.7 GHZ Pentium M processor with 512 MB RAM and 915 chipset which has no support for AERO . And from personal experience, having installed Windows 7 on several of them, where as Vista slowed them down to a halt, it has actually way performed better than XP. It's faster to boot and more responsive. Visual Studio, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Expression Studio all run fine on it. Although 512 MB RAM does slow down the performance of these applications. I'd advice the OP to try Windows 7 and not XP on his notebook because of my good experience with it on old hardware, because I myself have tested it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhapimp Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Our university used to provide Acer Notebooks with a 1.7 GHZ Pentium M processor with 512 MB RAM and 915 chipset which has no support for AERO . And from personal experience, having installed Windows 7 on several of them, where as Vista slowed them down to a halt, it has actually way performed better than XP. It's faster to boot and more responsive. Visual Studio, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Expression Studio all run fine on it. Although 512 MB RAM does slow down the performance of these applications. I'd advice the OP to try Windows 7 and not XP on his notebook because of my good experience with it on old hardware, because I myself have tested it. +1 except i have an 1.6 pentium M and so does the op and it works like a charm, the RC actually runs better than the 7000 build So OP you'll have to download and install it fast before microsoft stops distributing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero_Rising Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 You can gey an better comp for less than 50 dollars I know where you're coming from but to still have p3 is just lazy umm link or you're lying no way you can get one under 50 you also forget not everyone here is over 18 even though I could have afforded and upgrade my parents thought it was a waste of money so even with the money I couldn't have upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Windows 7 dependes on RAM more than Processor.people still don't get it. Actually, no. Vista and Windows 7 does a better job at managing the ram than XP did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhapimp Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 umm link or you're lying no way you can get one under 50 you also forget not everyone here is over 18 even though I could have afforded and upgrade my parents thought it was a waste of money so even with the money I couldn't have upgraded. you CAN get a better computer than that's processor is better than P3 www.ebay.com or better http://computers.shop.ebay.com/items/Deskt...d=p3286.c0.m301 you don't have to get the best but you can get better for under 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Our university used to provide Acer Notebooks with a 1.7 GHZ Pentium M processor with 512 MB RAM and 915 chipset which has no support for AERO . And from personal experience, having installed Windows 7 on several of them, where as Vista slowed them down to a halt, it has actually way performed better than XP. It's faster to boot and more responsive. Visual Studio, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Expression Studio all run fine on it. Although 512 MB RAM does slow down the performance of these applications. I'd advice the OP to try Windows 7 and not XP on his notebook because of my good experience with it on old hardware, because I myself have tested it. I would actually love to see some benchmarks though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanko panko Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Economically and technically this old hardware is end of life. Even if it could be done technically, it doesn't make sense to invest USD 200 or more to upgrade it to Windows 7. I have a six year old and healthy P4 as a secondary system but I am not going to make the investment, Vista will be its last OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhapimp Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Economically and technically this old hardware is end of life. Even if it could be done technically, it doesn't make sense to invest USD 200 or more to upgrade it to Windows 7.I have a six year old and healthy P4 as a secondary system but I am not going to make the investment, Vista will be its last OS. you can get it free for an year so why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanko panko Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 you can get it free for an year so why not And after eight months, reinstall XP? Not me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Actually, no. Vista and Windows 7 does a better job at managing the ram than XP did. Yeah, it also does a better job at using three times as much RAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imran Hussain Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I would actually love to see some benchmarks though. :) I'll try to get some benchmarks, but no XP ones as I don't think any of my friends has it installed nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted June 14, 2009 Veteran Share Posted June 14, 2009 [ali g voice over]RESPECT![/ali g voice over] I have this rather old laptop, with a dying Windows XP SP2 installation on it. Its spec is as follows: Pentium M 1.6GHz 512MB RAM ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 Since its reformatting time, I was wondering whether I should just stick with a clean WinXP SP3 install or leap ahead and jump on the Win7 bandwagon? I am a sucker for nice neat eye-candy that Vista/7 offer, but unsure if this machine will be able to take it smoothly. I did some research and several peeps confirmed that 7 can run properly on older PCs, maybe even as good as XP, but I still wanted your helps... So what do you think? About the Mobility Radeon 9200: be forewarned that the XP drivers cause Windows 7 to BSOD on shutdown. I managed to find a XDDM driver for my older computer's Radeon 9200 and it works. If you still plan on installing Windows 7 on your laptop I can forward the link to you. Otherwise, Windows 7 will run rather well, but not tremendously slower/faster than XP. Even on this Radeon 9200 Windows Media Center is just as fancy as on more powerful desktops :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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