joontje Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 where? Google is your friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Asking for links is against forum rules. he was asking where, it might be on MSDN which certainly isnt against the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 But we all know that it's NOT available on MSDN/Technet/Connect. Nor will it be for a while yet. Nor have we actually confirmed that this IS the RTM version. Although, it's seeming plausible so far. Myth : Busted Plausible ? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malisk Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 LOL, this has to be the hardest single rule of Neowin to get. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inctye Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Google is your friend +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastage Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 If I will preorder win7 upgrade, will I get a key on the spot or do they send keys after Oct 22nd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inctye Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 If I will preorder win7 upgrade, will I get a key on the spot or do they send keys after Oct 22nd? Key will be given at the time of the download on Oct 22. You could try rearming three times and extend the activation time to 120 days so that way your install will last until you get the key, or simply wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalfox Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Then you were deluding yourself. Microsoft would not make such a major change to the code base as to replace the GUI between RC and Final. Adding some icons, wallpapers, screensavers, etc, maybe... but the whole GUI, not a chance! Who said a new GUI? :huh: I said new icons, modified skin and new sounds.. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancedar Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I can't understand why if it's RTM-ing now/tomorrow why Keys can't be released and it sold/properly available this week. What's the wait for Oct 22nd GA? I know rtm means to manufacturing but it's not gonna change code by oct so why not release it for sale now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I can't understand why if it's RTM-ing now/tomorrow why Keys can't be released and it sold/properly available this week. What's the wait for Oct 22nd GA? I know rtm means to manufacturing but it's not gonna change code by oct so why not release it for sale now? You do realize things like this take time to setup.... even downloading from web... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaT40 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I just want it to RTM so I can get it off Technet.......that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSLJay Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I just want it to RTM so I can get it off Technet.......that's all. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISKER_Q Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 You do realize things like this take time to setup.... even downloading from web... Well they could still release the keys, and if people can figure out a way to get RTM, then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inctye Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I can't understand why if it's RTM-ing now/tomorrow why Keys can't be released and it sold/properly available this week. What's the wait for Oct 22nd GA? I know rtm means to manufacturing but it's not gonna change code by oct so why not release it for sale now? Takes time for everyone to prepare and support the win7. If everyone just started downloading and installing it right now, then imagine all the complaints people would have if their software and hardware wasn't working properly. These release dates are never just randomly picked; they are picked for the reason of ensuring product quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxz Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 this is the happiest day of my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancedar Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 You do realize things like this take time to setup.... even downloading from web... Well yes, of course. But 3 months to set up? Or are you saying MS haven't started on the website/download for the final GA/RTM- surely they've all set and just need to place the final iso/whatever where ever it needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivek Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 If they could set up the Beta and RC, they can definitely set this up and make the keys available to buyers, however, they fear someone may find loopholes and start stealing keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin in a box Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 So...7600 has leaked or...not? I've read the whole thread, someone's said the download is up in links, but...I see nothin' on the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Well yes, of course.But 3 months to set up? Or are you saying MS haven't started on the website/download for the final GA/RTM- surely they've all set and just need to place the final iso/whatever where ever it needs to go. Look I'm not going to get into an argument with someone on Neowin.net about the logistics and supply chain of how a distribution on web and retail is setup. Clearly you have no clue on how many hours and the man power involved to accomplish this. So please, for the sake of the forum, stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joontje Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 So...7600 has leaked or...not? I've read the whole thread, someone's said the download is up in links, but...I see nothin' on the Internet. it has, and there is. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivek Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Somebody needs to leash on this guy. If you plan on talking on this forum, lose the " **** " talk.Aye, sir. As I previously mentioned I lost my temper and now I'm back to my senses. Thou will not read any inappropriate language from me again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovetech Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 But 3 months to set up?Or are you saying MS haven't started on the website/download for the final GA/RTM- surely they've all set and just need to place the final iso/whatever where ever it needs to go. No, after release of RTM code needs to get thoroughly tested & validated by both microsoft & its partners. also OEM manufactures need time to get the system pre loaded with it. if they release the iso soon before OEM partners get enough time, their sale will be hurt as most people will go on buying iso. so it is more of a business decision than a technical one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancedar Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Look I'm not going to get into an argument with someone on Neowin.net about the logistics and supply chain of how a distribution on web and retail is setup.Clearly you have no clue on how many hours and the man power involved to accomplish this. So please, for the sake of the forum, stop. Logistics and supply chain of web and retail? Are you kidding me? Man power and hours? THIS SHOULD ALL BE READY. This is how the RC was done- they didn't get it ready then wait 90 days to do it. Logistics has nothing to do with it. We release in-house software for clients. About 4 releases a year. Chain of distribution for online sales from our own site do not take many hours. A few minutes. And a powerhouse like MS isn't likely to do it all by hand, it's gonna be fully automated. Because this is the 21st century. The logistics of getting it to Technet aren't gonna be too different for making it available as a download from MS.com with a key, retail. But, whatever :p You're - slightly - missing my point though, so don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivek Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Logistics and supply chain of web and retail? Are you kidding me? Man power and hours?THIS SHOULD ALL BE READY. This is how the RC was done- they didn't get it ready then wait 90 days to do it. Logistics has nothing to do with it. We release in-house software for clients. About 4 releases a year. Chain of distribution for online sales from our own site do not take many hours. A few minutes. And a powerhouse like MS isn't likely to do it all by hand, it's gonna be fully automated. Because this is the 21st century. The logistics of getting it to Technet aren't gonna be too different for making it available as a download from MS.com with a key, retail. But, whatever :p You're - slightly - missing my point though, so don't worry. EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS ALL BUSINESS AND $$$, THAT IS WHY MS WON'T RELEASE IT WHEN IT IS SIGNED OFF. They can release it now and start the automatic updates for users who have bought the official keys to release bug fixes and all other crap that needs to be released, but they won't for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivek Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Grow up, personal attacks will not be tolerated.No, Microsoft need to give OEM companies time to release fully compatible drivers. This doesn't happen overnight, and OEM companies cannot do this until Microsoft finalises the code, this process can take 3-4 months. In the mean time, Technet/MSDN/MSDNAA subscribers can get it shortly after it RTM's, and even then, those subscription services are for system testers for corporates or like Technet, software developers. I have already apologized for the personal attacks so for heaven's sake don't bring that up again. As for your OEM companies statement, I have to say I didn't think about it. I guess you're definitely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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