precjednik Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 OK. Fixed CDAudio support, didn't noticed that before as I'm mailnly listen my MP3 collection :) Deleted some minor files, empty directories and some referencies to them in registry. It looks so lame :)) Working like charm. I will not experimement much because I have to capture and encode some TV show. Have fun... and yes... here is a new list - 123 MB weight windows DIR. No comments? I will be happy to hear some of your ideas. Cheers! WINDOWS.LST Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1454016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 (edited) precjednik, it would be difficult to use your list as a universal. I'm sure it works great for you, and I now how hard these efforts can be slimming down one's XP installation, and you shoould be applauded for your efforts. If I may interject something here just as a word of caution to others, and without hurting your feelings. The drivers you have listed in C:\WINDOWS\inf are not the same for everyone. True, the majority of drivers on your list are univerisal for everyone's system; however, each system is differently configured, with different things. Here's an example... Here is a list that my system needs that you don't have on your list: agp440.sys ASPI32.SYS CTAC32K.SYS CTAUD2K.SYS CTPRXY2K.SYS CTOSS2K.SYS CTSFM2K.SYS Defrag32.sys Defrag32b.sys ELBYCDFL.SYS ELBYCDIO.SYS ELBYDELAY.SYS ElbyVCD.sys EMUPIA2K.SYS Fastfat.sys ftdisk.sys HA10KX2K.SYS I8042PRT.SYS intelide.sys KSecDD.sys NV4_MINI.SYS P3.SYS PORTCLS.SYS RAMDISK.SYS SAVRT.SYS SAVRTPEL.SYS SYMREDRV.SYS SYMTDI.SYS Teefer.sys ultra.sys USR1806V.SYS WG3N.SYS WPSDRVNT.SYS These drivers we both have...and I'm fairly certain that these ARE universal: ACPI.sys AEC.SYS AFD.SYS atapi.sys AUDSTUB.SYS BEEP.SYS CDAUDIO.SYS Cdfs.sys CDROM.SYS CLASSPNP.SYS disk.sys DMUSIC.SYS DRMK.SYS DRMKAUD.SYS DXAPI.SYS DXG.SYS DXGTHK.SYS FDC.SYS FIPS.SYS FLPYDISK.SYS FS_REC.SYS GAMEENUM.SYS IMAPI.SYS IPSEC.SYS isapnp.sys KBDCLASS.SYS KMIXER.SYS KS.SYS MNMDD.SYS MODEM.SYS MODEMCSA.SYS MOUCLASS.SYS MountMgr.sys Msfs.sys MSGPC.SYS Mup.sys NDIS.sys NDISTAPI.SYS NDISWAN.SYS NDPROXY.SYS NETBT.SYS Npfs.sys Ntfs.sys NULL.SYS PARPORT.SYS PartMgr.sys PARVDM.SYS pci.sys PCIIDEX.SYS PTILINK.SYS RASACD.SYS RASL2TP.SYS RASPPPOE.SYS RASPPTP.SYS RASPTI.SYS RDPCDD.SYS REDBOOK.SYS SCSIPORT.SYS SERENUM.SYS SERIAL.SYS SFLOPPY.SYS SPLITTER.SYS SWENUM.SYS SWMIDI.SYS SYSAUDIO.SYS TCPIP.SYS TDI.SYS TERMDD.SYS UPDATE.SYS USBD.SYS USBHUB.SYS USBPORT.SYS USBUHCI.SYS VGA.SYS VIDEOPRT.SYS VolSnap.sys WANARP.SYS WDMAUD.SYS WMILIB.SYS Again, good job, precjednik, and please don't take this as an insult to the hard effort you have put into this. I just think people should proceed with a little caution in this area. However, I do want to thank you for pointing out to me these drivers, that I believe are also universal for systems, but are not listed in the Layout.ini file...which is generally a good place for people to start when seeking out which drivers they do need. asyncmac.sys ctlfacem.sys ctljystk.sys dmio.sys dmload.sys emu10k1m.sys mrxsmb.sys MSPCLOCK.sys MSPQM.sys netbios.sys processr.sys psched.sys rdbss.sys rdpdr.sys sfmanm.sys stream.sys Edited December 10, 2003 by Bold_Fortune Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1456111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
precjednik Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 (edited) Hey Bold THX for your reply. Yes, this has to be point out. The following list is only for one PC. It happens to work without problems on my PC (but ofcours it would'n work on any other). And yes, there should be some standard dislaimer, I'm sorry for that. Really, I don't see any purposes of my file list to anyone... yes it's true. I will be more careful as you never know if someone would ruin his Windows installation because of wrong assume. But I'll post later how I done this. Cheers! Happy tweaking ;) EDIT: Here is a little explanatin: First of all, sorry for crappy English and any mistake I wrote. Feel free to correct me, but I hope everybody will understand me :) The main idea is to have clean install of Windows Pro, with all drivers, programs, tweaks and settings done. Then we remove ALL of the components we don't need. I mean ALL of them. And those embeded applications in Windows (like Windows Media Player, IE, Outlook ... etc) replace with free alternative. This is the fun part. Here are some of them with their alternatives: IE - Opera, Netscape... Outlook Express - Gravity, 40tude dialog, Xnews, Agent... Windows Media Play - WMClassic, BSPlayer... Outlook - The Bat!, Poco... Word - AbiWord... Excell - Spread32, SpreadCalc... ... Not only mostly freeware and much smaller, but some of them even better than their Microsoft's pandans (personal opinion). Every installation monitored by some utility for watching all changes (InstallWatch...), some tweaking, cleaning unused files... Step by step... And finaly, EVERYTHING will work, no errors no BSOD... Edited December 10, 2003 by precjednik Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1456137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I have completely updated my master file list for files which can be deleted to slim down XP, and it's sooooo long now, that it is too big to post on any forum. So I Zipped it up and am attaching it for all of you. I sincerely hope some of you get something from this. It took me two years to compile. This was really a special project for me. I really and truly wanted to put together the list for people like myself who always wanted to know what could be deleted from a Windows OS...in this case, XP. Enjoy. Bold_Fortune Oh, and keep checking in here because a fellow named kryzone is actually putting together modular bat files that actually will first backup the files, and then delete them for you...all in about two seconds. http://www.bit-quest.com/forums/index.php?...opic=1697&st=60 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1462030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 This is the way XPLite should have been written...where it actually backups the folders and files for you before it deletes them. So many people have asked for something like this for so long, but I couldn't help them. So much thanks to devil270975, IcemanND, un4given1, and XtremeMaC, for giving me all their time and effort all day yesterday (and I do mean alllllll day yesterday). What a chore it was for them getting this over to me. Sorry for my being such a dummy, guys. You were great. Copy this to Notepad and save it to your Desktop as "C Program Files Common Files.bat" When you doubleclick on it, up will pop the command prompt asking if this is a F = file, or D = directory. Type in D and then Enter for each entry, as it appears on the screen. A folder named "backup" will be created on C:\ and in that folder you will see each of these three folders backed-up in their entirety, files and subfolder and their files and subfolders. @echo off echo Backing up folder and files... cd\ md backup xcopy "C:\Program Files\Common Files\MSSoap\"*.* c:\backup\MSSoap /s /e /c /q /h echo finished backup. echo beginning removal of original... rd "C:\Program Files\Common Files\MSSoap" /s /q echo Backing up folder and files... cd\ md backup xcopy "C:\Program Files\Common Files\ODBC\"*.* c:\backup\ODBC /s /e /c /q /h echo finished backup. echo beginning removal of original... rd "C:\Program Files\Common Files\ODBC" /s /q echo Backing up folder and files... cd\ md backup xcopy "C:\Program Files\Common Files\SpeechEngines\"*.* c:\backup\SpeechEngines /s /e /c /q /h echo finished backup. echo beginning removal of original... rd "C:\Program Files\Common Files\SpeechEngines" /s /q echo removal complete Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1468322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron2000 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Bold, what will the bat file do if the file is not there? I've been doing the deleting manually will that affect the batch file operation? Really appreciate(sp?) the list you've made. (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1482439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 iron2000, nothing. It won't hurt anything. I don't have many files, either. If certain files aren't there, it just moves on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1487685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 My lists have finally come to completion. These lists took me over two years to compile. Many, many re-installs. So much frustration along the way. But I was sincere in my effort. I wanted very much to compile a list of files that would be okay to delete for people like myself who have always wanted to know. Too many times I have seen this question asked on forums, and too many times the answer from "conservative" moderators and experts was, "Why delete anything? With the low cost of hardrives these days, just buy a bigger one." or, "You can safely delete the Help files and the tour folder files." It's a very controversial subject, deleting files. You'll probably see many posts further down on this thread by people faulting it, saying how useless a thing this is to do. However, it is something that many people are interested in doing. And I think we that do, should be left to do it. BTW, My current Windows folder size is below. Keep in mind, I do not use File Compression, and all my programs are installed on my C Drive along with my XP installation...and, I have not had to re-install or format XP for over a year and a half...honestly. Windows Directory (includes all files and sub-folders and their files): 1851 Files. 94 Folders. 383 MB ...Size on Disk. System32 Folder (includes all files and sub-folders and their files): 1551 Files. 32 Folders. 288 MB ...Size on Disk. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, my Christmas present to you. A Batch File for the Individual system32 files I remove from my system. Keep in mind, everybody's particular needs for XP's applications are different. You may use Remote File Sharing. I don't. So obviously you wouldn't want to delete the System32 files related to Remote File Sharing. Before I begin deleting Individual System32 Files, I make sure that everything is up and running on my system, and that I have my system setup the way I like it. They are the last files I remove. I also make a backup image of my system the way it is beforehand. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This batch file will backup and remove many files from C:\WINDOWS\system32 to a folder on C:\ ...named simply, "backup". Within the backup folder will be a subfolder named "WINDOWS". Within that folder will be another subfolder named "system32"...where you will see the files that have been moved....many files. I did it this way so you would always know the exact path where they come from should you decide to return any of the files to their original location. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A WORD OF CAUTION about kbd*.dlls. kbd*.dlls are Keyboard Layout files. My settings are for U.S. English, so I only need and keep the "kdbdus.dll". All others I remove from system32. I've heard about another way to go about deleting the kdb*.dlls your system doesn't need...However, this will completely remove all unnecessary kdb*.dlls, not back them up like the Batch File will. I've never tried this command, but if you would like to try it, here it is: Go to Start > Run. Copy and paste this in and click OK: del c:\windows.alt\system32\kbd*.dll Supposedly, this will remove all the kdb*.dlls your system doesn't need. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A WORD OF CAUTION about NLS files. Delete any one of these you're not supposed to and your system may not restart. NLS Files = Multiple Language Resource Files. Character Translation; National Language Services driver (font or font map). My system settings are for U.S.English. If you live outside of the U.S. using a foreign from made for the U.S. computer you will need to check within your Layout.ini file within your Prefetch folder to see exactly which NLS files your system uses. If you find you need one or two that I remove, simple look in the backup folder the Batch File Made on C:\ and replace those to your system32 folder. For my U.S.English settings, I remove all NLS files, except for these: c_437.nls c_1250.nls c_1251.nls c_1252.nls c_1253.nls c_1254.nls c_1255.nls c_1256.nls c_1257.nls c_28591.nls c_ctype.nls l_except.nls locale.nls sortkey.nls unicode.nls -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1487751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron2000 Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Tried the batch file but without all the nls and kdb stuff. Working fine for now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1487939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 iron2000, will you do me favor? Look in the backup folder on C:\ where the system32 files were moved to with the Batch File, and tell me exactly how many files and MBs it moved. Thanks, I don't have many of the files on my system, and I would like to know. Oh, did you not remove the kbs and nls? Or did you move them with the Batch File? Thanks, again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1487985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron2000 Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 (edited) Currently I have 206 objects there, 15.5MB. I moved a few files back like the System Restore files and Language bar. I deleted all lines in the batch file with nls and kdb to exclude them from the move. But now I've met up with a problem. On japanese sites with drop-down menus all the jap characters dissappeared. Other than that the rest of the site came out well, doesn't affect textareas though. [EDIT] Fixed by putting lpx.dll and winnls.dll back. Edited December 18, 2003 by iron2000 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1488241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Well, I finally did it. I actually weeded out all the DLLS in my system32 folder that my system doesn't use. I removed another 354 DLLS from system32. I had a couple of bugs at first. Like I couldn't open Outlook Express, and Yahoo Chat had no sound at first, and I couldn't play a music cd I had inserted into my cd-rom drive. I worked it all out, though. Oh, and I couldn't run chkdsk...but I found that DLL, too. Learning how to make a batch file for backing up and removing files really helped me out, because then it was just a matter of process of elimination which files I needed to have everything work right. I now have only 990 Individual Files left in the system32 folder. That 990 files include 528 DLLS. Imagine, only 528 DLLS remaining. That's not too bad, I think. And system32 on my system now only makes up 202MB. ...and I don't use File Compression, and all my programs I install on C Drive along with XP. This one is definitely NOT for everyone. You have to be willing to iron out any bugs that your system may have after you BACKUP...not remove these dlls. I can't tell you how it would work for you. I don't know what your system uses or doesn't use. I only know what my system uses. I haven't had time to catalog all 354 additional DLLS with their definitions. So if you want to try this...you're on your own for now. Remember, I warned you. I'm not here writing down "The Universal Files for Deletion", those which anyone can delete. I am cataloging the files MY system doesn't need, or use. That's important to keep in mind. You can only use this list as a guideline, at best, to help you figure out which files your system uses, or doesn't use, depending upon the way you use it, and what you use it for. If you would like to try this, here's the list of 354 additional Dlls, and and a batch file which follows. The batch file will back these DLLS up on C:\ for you in a backup folder...so you really can't get into too much trouble. You can always put the DLLS back into the system32 folder. a3d.dll aaaamon.dll AC3API.DLL acledit.dll admparse.dll adptif.dll adsmsext.dll adsnt.dll alrsvc.dll asferror.dll ati2dvaa.dll ati2dvag.dll ati3d1ag.dll ati3d2ag.dll atkctrs.dll atmpvcno.dll atrace.dll avicap.dll avicap32.dll avifile.dll bidispl.dll browser.dll capesnpn.dll cards.dll catsrvps.dll ccfgnt.dll cfgbkend.dll cnvfat.dll comcat.dll commdlg.dll compobj.dll compstui.dll console.dll corpol.dll crtdll.dll cryptdlg.dll csseqchk.dll CTAGENT.DLL CTASIO.DLL CTEMUPIA.DLL CTL3D.DLL ctl3d32.dll ctl3dv2.dll ctwdm32.dll CTWFLT32.DLL dbghelp.dll dbmsrpcn.dll dbmsvinn.dll ddeml.dll deskadp.dll deskmon.dll deskperf.dll devcon32.dll dgrpsetu.dll dgsetup.dll dhcpmon.dll dhcpsapi.dll dinput8.dll diskcopy.dll dispex.dll divx.dll DivXc32.dll DivXc32f.dll dmconfig.dll drmv2clt.dll dsauth.dll dsprop.dll dsprpres.dll dsquery.dll dsuiext.dll ElbyVCD.dll encapi.dll encdec.dll EqnClass.Dll ersvc.dll esent97.dll esentprf.dll eventcls.dll expsrv.dll feclient.dll fldrclnr.dll fontsub.dll framebuf.dll ftsrch.dll glmf32.dll glu32.dll gpkcsp.dll gpkrsrc.dll hccoin.dll hnetwiz.dll hpzcoi06.dll hpzlnt06.dll htui.dll iasacct.dll iaspolcy.dll iasrecst.dll iassam.dll idq.dll ieakeng.dll ieaksie.dll ieakui.dll iedkcs32.dll iesetup.dll ifmon.dll igmpagnt.dll ils.dll inetmib1.dll inetpp.dll inetppui.dll INETWH32.DLL initpki.dll input.dll inseng.dll iologmsg.dll ipmontr.dll ipnathlp.dll ippromon.dll iprop.dll iprtprio.dll iprtrmgr.dll ipsecsnp.dll ipsmsnap.dll ipv6mon.dll ipxmontr.dll ipxpromn.dll ipxrip.dll ipxrtmgr.dll ipxsap.dll ipxwan.dll irclass.dll isrdbg32.dll javaee.dll javaprxy.dll jet500.dll jobexec.dll jsproxy.dll keymgr.dll licmgr10.dll licwmi.dll lmhsvc.dll localspl.dll localui.dll loghours.dll lprhelp.dll lprmonui.dll lzexpand.dll MAPI.DLL mapistub.dll mcastmib.dll mcd32.dll mcdsrv32.dll mchgrcoi.dll mciavi32.dll mciole16.dll mciole32.dll mciqtz32.dll mciseq.dll mciwave.dll mdwmdmsp.dll mf3216.dll mfc40.dll mfc40u.dll MFC42ENU.DLL MFCANS32.DLL mfcsubs.dll MFCUIA32.DLL mgmtapi.dll mll_hp.dll mll_mtf.dll mll_qic.dll mmdrv.dll mmsystem.dll mmutilse.dll modex.dll mp43dmod.dll mprddm.dll mprdim.dll msacm.dll msafd.dll mscat32.dll msctfp.dll msencode.dll msexch40.dll msexcl40.dll msimsg.dll msjet40.dll msjetoledb40.dll msjint40.dll msjter40.dll msltus40.dll msobjs.dll mspatcha.dll mspbde40.dll mspmspsv.dll msports.dll msrd2x40.dll msrd3x40.dll msrepl40.dll mssap.dll mssign32.dll mssip32.dll MSSTKPRP.DLL msswch.dll mstext40.dll msutb.dll msvcrt20.dll msvideo.dll msw3prt.dll mswdat10.dll mswstr10.dll msxbde40.dll msxml2r.dll mtxdm.dll mtxex.dll mtxlegih.dll nddenb32.dll netplwiz.dll npptools.dll npwmsdrm.dll ntlanman.dll ntlanui.dll ntmsdba.dll ntmsevt.dll ntmssvc.dll ntprint.dll nv4.dll nviewimg.dll nvinstnt.dll nvmctray.dll nvoglnt.dll nvshell.dll nvwddi.dll nwprovau.dll objsel.dll ole2.dll ole2disp.dll ole2nls.dll olecli.dll olesvr.dll oline.dll OPENAL32.DLL opengl32.dll panmap.dll paqsp.dll pid.dll pidgen.dll pifmgr.dll pjlmon.dll plustab.dll pmspl.dll polstore.dll prflbmsg.dll pschdprf.dll psnppagn.dll qedwipes.dll qmgr.dll qmgrprxy.dll qosname.dll RDOCURS.DLL rdpdd.dll rdpwsx.dll routetab.dll rpcns4.dll rsmps.dll rtipxmib.dll rtm.dll S32EVNT1.DLL sbe.dll sbeio.dll sblfx.dll SCP32.DLL security.dll senscfg.dll serialui.dll setupdll.dll SFCVRT32.DLL sfman32.dll SFMS32.DLL shell.dll shellstyle.dll SIMONW32.dll sisbkup.dll snmpapi.dll softpub.dll spmsg.dll spnike.dll spoolss.dll sprio600.dll sprio800.dll spxcoins.dll srvsvc.dll sti_ci.dll storage.dll streamci.dll svcpack.dll sysinv.dll sysres.dll syssetup.dll tcpmib.dll tcpmon.dll tcpmonui.dll traffic.dll trkwks.dll tsbyuv.dll tsddd.dll txflog.dll ufat.dll umandlg.dll upnphost.dll ureg.dll usbmon.dll usbui.dll usrcntra.dll usrcoina.dll usrdpa.dll usrdtea.dll usrfaxa.dll usrlbva.dll usrrtosa.dll usrsdpia.dll usrsvpia.dll usrv42a.dll usrv80a.dll usrvoica.dll usrvpa.dll vbajet32.dll VBAME.DLL vcdex.dll vdmredir.dll ver.dll verifier.dll vga256.dll vga64k.dll vss_ps.dll w32topl.dll webclnt.dll webzone.dll wiavusd.dll wifeman.dll win32spl.dll win87em.dll winsock.dll winstrm.dll wmiprop.dll wowfax.dll wowfaxui.dll wshatm.dll wship6.dll wshisn.dll wshnetbs.dll WshRm.dll wsnmp32.dll xactsrv.dll xolehlp.dll Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1497675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron2000 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Anyone know how to work the cmd files found here? http://jdeboeck.msfnhosting.com/ Found the link on Bold's forum, just want to play safe before trying to double-click on those. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1499176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron2000 Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 NLS are sure risky. I tried deleting those numbered ones in the bat and got locked out because of a missing nls. Better not mess with them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1510124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 My system settings are for U.S.English. If you live outside of the U.S. using a foreign from U.S. computer you will need to check within your Layout.ini file within your Prefetch folder to see exactly which NLS files your system uses. For my U.S.English settings, I remove all NLS except for these: c_437.nls c_932.nls c_936.nls c_949.nls c_950.nls c_1250.nls c_1251.nls c_1252.nls c_1253.nls c_1254.nls c_1255.nls c_1256.nls c_1257.nls c_28591.nls c_ctype.nls geo.nls l_except.nls l_intl.nls locale.nls sortkey.nls sorttbls.nls unicode.nls iron2000, this is how I always had it. Then for some reason I switched to deleting a few others; however, I discovered I needed these others to access Regional and Language Options in the Control Panel...even though I never change anything the there. The list above is a much safer bet for U.S.English settings. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1510493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Here, I made a few adjustments on this last batch file. This will also reflect the change in the NLS files. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1510498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Oh, sorry. The batch file above is for "Other system32 DLLS" I remove besides what's listed in this batch file below. The batch file below reflects the NLS changes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1510514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2K Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 I'll try this but the last time I buggered around in the windows folder my dad got the idea and deleted evrithing!!!!!! :pinch: :angry: :angry: :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1510540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron2000 Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Bold, do you know what files are needed for System Restore to work? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1513568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Here you go: srrstr.dll ....System Restore Restore Operation Library (Deleting this will also remove the System Restore applet from Systems Properties.) srsvc.dll ....System Restore Service (I don't use System Restore.) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1514814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron2000 Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 Seems like there is more. After playing around I found out that some other file in System32(too many to test one by one) and pchshell.dll in PCHEALTH/Binaries must not be deleted for System Restore to work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1517753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosh Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 There used to be a program called Cleansweep. This program would scan your system for unneeded files and delete them. I hated this program because it always deleted needed files, and would cause headache. I don't see why people are risking breaking there computer to save a couple megs, when hard drives are in the gigs. Even if a file isn't in use, deleting it could break other things. -gosh Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1517962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
guru Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 @gosh just for the heck of it i presume :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1518097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Not sure if saving space has anything to do with it, gosh. I'm sure it's not about improving performance. It's more like guru said, for the heck of it. For the most part, it's just something to do. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1518797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold_Fortune Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 I've updated my system32 batch file (below). I wanted to be certain about exactly which individual system32 files I was deleting with my batch file...I didn't want to remove any files put into system32 by any programs or driver updates I installed after the installation. I did a fresh format and install of XP with my slipstreamed XP/SP1 installation CD. I only installed two programs: Drive Image 2002 and WinDriversBackup Personal Edition 1.06. I also had to install this patch: WindowsXP_KB823980_x86_ENU.exe, which prevents RPC from being disabled, as I am on a dial-up connection. I did not install any other programs, or update any drivers. I disabled Hybernation, System Restore, Automatic Updates, Remote Assistance and Error Reporting. Not in Services, but in System Properties and Display Properties. I left all my Services at their default settings (which I will get back to below). And I set the visual effects to my liking. Then I downloaded 20MB of 15 Windows Critical Updates and Service Packs from the Windows Update Site, which have been offered by Microsoft since making my slipstreamed XP/SP1 installation CD. Then I disable Windows File Protection and purged my dllcache folder of its contents. I kept Services set to their defaults. Windows didn't seem very willing to let me easily delete these twenty system32 files unless I disabled their corresponding Services. I usually delete these only after setting up Services the way I like them, but I decided to take them out of the batch file for now. devcon32.dll ersvc.dll inetpp.dll lmhsvc.dll localspl.dll msnsspc.dll mspmspsv.dll mstlsapi.dll pjlmon.dll seclogon.dll sfman32.dll spoolss.dll srsvc.dll tcpmon.dll trkwks.dll upnp.dll usbmon.dll webclnt.dll wuaueng.dll wuauserv.dll I removed some other files, too. Mostly these were related to programs and driver updates I installed after installing XP. It's been over a year since I installed XP, and so it was inevitable I'd find a few other files in system32 not included in the old batch file, and I included these in the updated batch file. By my count, this batch file will remove from the system32 folder and backup 690 individual files (just over 40% of the system32 files Microsoft said we can't live without)....leaving in the system32 folder 968 individual files from a clean installation. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This batch file will backup and remove many files from C:\WINDOWS\system32 to a folder on C:\ ...named simply, "backup". Within the backup folder will be a subfolder named "WINDOWS". Within that folder will be another subfolder named "system32"...where you will see the files that have been moved. I did it this way so you would always know the exact path where they come from should you decide to return any of the files to their original location. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A WORD OF CAUTION about kbd*.dlls. kbd*.dlls are Keyboard Layout files. My settings are for U.S. English, so I only need and keep the "kdbdus.dll". All others I remove from system32. I've heard about another way to go about deleting the kdb*.dlls your system doesn't need...However, this will completely remove all unnecessary kdb*.dlls, not back them up like the Batch File will. I've never tried this command, but if you would like to try it, here it is: Go to Start > Run. Copy and paste this in and click OK: del c:\windows.alt\system32\kbd*.dll Supposedly, this will remove all the kdb*.dlls your system doesn't need. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A WORD OF CAUTION about NLS files. Delete any one of these you're not supposed to and your system may not restart. NLS Files = Multiple Language Resource Files. Character Translation; National Language Services driver (font or font map). My system settings are for U.S.English. If you live outside of the U.S. using a foreign from made for the U.S. computer you will need to check within your Layout.ini file within your Prefetch folder to see exactly which NLS files your system uses. If you find you need one or two that I remove, simple look in the backup folder the Batch File Made on C:\ and replace those to your system32 folder. For my U.S.English settings, I remove all NLS files, except for these: c_437.nls c_932.nls c_936.nls c_949.nls c_950.nls c_1250.nls c_1251.nls c_1252.nls c_1253.nls c_1254.nls c_1255.nls c_1256.nls c_1257.nls c_28591.nls c_ctype.nls geo.nls l_except.nls l_intl.nls locale.nls sortkey.nls sorttbls.nls unicode.nls -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/page/6/#findComment-1521760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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