Chkdsk bug in Windows 7 RTM Build 7600.16385/16399

By RushHour2k5
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I'm not sure if this is a bug. But CHKDSK does use a lot of ram. It has stablized to about ?10MB of ram from shown image.

I have 4GB of ram on a HP EliteBook 6930p on 16385

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No antivirus running..

UPDATE: The chkdsk has finished. It closed properly and released all the ram immediately.

The verdict is still out whether this is a memory leak, or a by-design..

I've never really used chkdsk in vista..so I'm not sure..

I believe it's probably a bug, but definitely not a real show stopper.

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Grand Master

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First, both of you post exact hardware specs. Lets see if we can find something in common.

Second, I dont believe this bug at all. I think it has to do with certain HW/SW configs. Note that the first guy (with screenshots) gets a BSOD and the second does not.

http://www.infobyte.org/newsimg/

(My opinion)

Also happens on my Laptop (screenshot attatched is laptop, previous was desktop, I don't think this is config related, I think it is just a bug. Spec anyway:

Desktop

  • Q6600 @ 2.9 GHZ (Water cooling, Overclocked)
  • 8GB Corsair XMS2 PC6400 DDRII - 800 MHZ
  • 512MB HiS ATI 4850HD, Catalyst 9.7
  • Realtek ALC890 onboard Audio (5.1 surround mode, R2.29)
  • nVidia nForce 650i SLi Chipset, nForce 16.25
  • Windows 7 X64 Edition obviously (Ultimate)
  • Boot drive: 250GB Western Digital WD2500JB IDE Hard Drive
  • Drive test was performed on: 750GB Samsung Spinpoint HD753LJ (SATAII, running on default SATA drivers, not nVidia drivers)
  • 570W PSU, never had problems with lack of PSU power before

Laptop

  • AMD QL-62 Dual Core CPU, 2GHZ, 1MB L2 Cache
  • 3GB DDRII 667 Memory
  • 250GB Sata Hard Disk, test was performed on a partition
  • ATI Chipset (can't remember revision)
  • ATI 3200 Mobile Graphics (256MB shared memory)

Both machines running MSE for AntiVirus

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It's really strange for me to see people deny such bugs or flaws because they use or like certain apps or operative systems. No OS is perfect, why the need to defend something you didn't create?

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Not sure how this is show stopping? Does everyone do chkdsk every hour of every day? Is there some sort of leet crazy hack I am not aware of?

Its show stopping because it can eat up your available memory and cause a BSOD very quickly, when something as simple as chkdsk causes such a severe memory leak.

Its just lucky for Microsoft that this has been discovered before general release, they could really do without the negative publicity

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Pharos

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RTM code is RTM code. It's finished. Done. They will patch that through Windows Update. And that's that. Showstopper? Just because it's RTM, doesn't mean it doesn't have undiscovered bugs. Otherwise we wouldn't have service packs and hotfixes.

Edit. Sorry for jumping the gun too quickly. HOLY @#*(&(*#& @**(@&*(#@

Yeah. It's serious. :woot:

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firey

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Its show stopping because it can eat up your available memory and cause a BSOD very quickly, when something as simple as chkdsk causes such a severe memory leak.

Its just lucky for Microsoft that this has been discovered before general release, they could really do without the negative publicity

Hmm, fair enough I would have thought "Critical Show Stopper" as being something that any person would do day to day such as Rename a file, or copy a file, or something that would make the system unusable for a standard every day thing.

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Confirmed. And yes this should be considered a showstopper. chkdsk killing a machine is not cool as there are real world uses for that tool.

Precisely. Whilst this is not so likely to be a problem for home users, enterprise users could have some serious problems from this

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RushHour2k5

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Confirmed. And yes this should be considered a showstopper. chkdsk killing a machine is not cool as there are real world uses for that tool.

I definantly 2nd that Chris123NT. Also, if "chkdsk" can crash a computer by BSODing it during a fix that "chkdsk" might be performing it can perminantly delete or render data unusable on the drive it is running on. This is 100% a Critical Show Stopper bug that IMO needs to have the RTM recalled and recompiled before the TechNet/MSDN copies go live and at least a Hotfix for the OEMs to impliment in System Recovery.

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Owen W Veteran

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Confirmed. And yes this should be considered a showstopper. chkdsk killing a machine is not cool as there are real world uses for that tool.

Okay, Okay, well, everyone should stop complaining here, and send it to Microsoft - they won't listen unless alot of people submit it...

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Stetson

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Yep, good catch. MS will now have to recall all the disks they sent out and remotely wipe RTM downloads from everyone's machines. They will then have to re-open full Windows 7 development to fix the issue and go through another round of voting before signing off on yet another RTM build, pushing to release back to sometime in 2011.

Or they could just issue a patch :p

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I definantly 2nd that Chris123NT. Also, if "chkdsk" can crash a computer by BSODing it during a fix that "chkdsk" might be performing it can perminantly delete or render data unusable on the drive it is running on. This is 100% a Critical Show Stopper bug that IMO needs to have the RTM recalled and recompiled before the TechNet/MSDN copies go live and at least a Hotfix for the OEMs to impliment in System Recovery.

They will just release a hotfix, they are won't recall code once it has been RTMed

I see ATI and WD as common factors.

Again please post your entire system specs including brands and models.

Try again before jumping to conclusions. The drive that I performed the scan on was a Samsung Spinpoint, not a WD. The WD is my boot drive, and I don't have any WD drives in my Laptop.

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RushHour2k5

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Yep, good catch. MS will now have to recall all the disks they sent out and remotely wipe RTM downloads from everyone's machines. They will then have to re-open full Windows 7 development to fix the issue and go through another round of voting before signing off on yet another RTM build, pushing to release back to sometime in 2011.

Or they could just issue a patch :p

I know ur joking about this but no need to be a wise a$$. :p

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