Subject Delta Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I just had to start a thread on this one, its more of a case of... WTF :/ Sloppy and unorganised defending, not a lot of final product in the attacking third. Very disappointing performance this. Although there is no doubt there has been an improvement under Capello, but this and the match against Spain has made it abundantly clear that we are far from being the finished article. Get your finger out guys Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted August 12, 2009 Veteran Share Posted August 12, 2009 I think it's a shambles atm, we have clearly had the more possession but the chances we get we can't put away. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted August 12, 2009 Administrators Share Posted August 12, 2009 Green is crap and the defending is farcical. I hope Capello puts on Robinson or Carson and takes Heskey off, offside or losing possesion whenever we get forward and he hasn't had one shot on goal! I feel sorry for Rooney, we miss Gerard (it's plain to see) and if James was there in goal, we wouldn't be 2 down right now. Green simply doesn't look like he belongs there, and his defenders who are visibly ignoring him proves it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deletedxyz Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 England 0 - 2 Holland Norway 4 - 0 Scotland (10 man squad) simply lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSoft Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 England 0 - 2 HollandNorway 4 - 0 Scotland (10 man squad) simply lol Damn, well to be expected I suppose. Scotland hasn't had a good international squad in years. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted August 12, 2009 Veteran Share Posted August 12, 2009 well that's one back! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridlas Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Holland is pretty good in soccer Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted August 12, 2009 Veteran Share Posted August 12, 2009 2-2 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted August 12, 2009 Administrators Share Posted August 12, 2009 Better second half.. I'll take the 2-2 (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSoft Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 England 0 - 2 HollandNorway 4 - 0 Scotland (10 man squad) simply lol OK just looked this up, where are you getting Norway 4, Scotland 0 from? According to websites I visit says it was a 0-0 draw. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 Good result in the end, but the defending is still an area of concern for me. Clearly improvement is needed if we are to mount any form of world cup challenge. The fact that the dutch played poorly by their own standards doesn't credit us much either, they put out a beatable team this evening. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSoft Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 OK just looked this up, where are you getting Norway 4, Scotland 0 from? According to websites I visit says it was a 0-0 draw. Appologies. Was looking at Saturdays results, not todays Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 BBC News Norway - Scotland did finish 4-0 :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591425998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Don't care about England. Good to see Dirk score (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 Although I wanted England to win I guess there is always a little smile when a Liverpool player scores. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted August 12, 2009 Veteran Share Posted August 12, 2009 good to see past and present west ham players bulking up the england team...I counted 8 out of the 11 at one time in the second half :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Although I wanted England to win I guess there is always a little smile when a Liverpool player scores. Johnson was cack though. Or as the wools call him, "Glenno Jonno". good to see past and present west ham players bulking up the england team...I counted 8 out of the 11 at one time in the second half :D Reckon there will be riots when you play Milwall in the cup? Night game as well? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted August 12, 2009 Veteran Share Posted August 12, 2009 I hadn't seen the draw and oh dear it's going to be awesome! the riots will be immense haha Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Rapture| Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Green is crap... I hope Capello puts on Robinson I can't tell if you were being serious or not, you've got to be having a laugh. For an out of season friendly I don't think England were all that bad. The glaring errors that led to the goals usually get sorted once the season starts and players start pay attention again. It's also worth remembering that like England, Holland have also just won 7/7 world cup qualifiers. It's not like we were supposed to just roll over them but to come back from 2-0 down away isnt a bad show at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 My brother remains adamant that Green is a good keeper, but I think he's terrible. I really wish Capello would call up Manuel Almunia. He's a British citizen now, so he's finally allowed to play for us, but Capello refuses to call him up just because he's Spanish. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 Johnson was cack though.Or as the wools call him, "Glenno Jonno". Yep i'd agree with that, although I personally wasn't pinning my hopes on him being anything more than a slight bit of squad reinforcement anyway. My brother remains adamant that Green is a good keeper, but I think he's terrible. I really wish Capello would call up Manuel Almunia. He's a British citizen now, so he's finally allowed to play for us, but Capello refuses to call him up just because he's Spanish. I thought that Green was pretty good. Also is Almunia still eligible to play for England? I thought he'd played for spain? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 is Almunia still eligible to play for England? I thought he'd played for spain? Nope, he's still uncapped for the Spanish senior side (and if you see Spain's top goalies, you'll see why Almunia will possibly never be called up by Spain), and now that he's got his English citizenship, he's fully eligible to play for England. It's just a matter of whether Fabio Capello will actually call him up. If Capello doesn't call him up, then internationally, it'll be a very good talent gone to waste. He'll never get called up to the Spanish squad as Iker Casillas is their current first-choice; he's 28, Almunia is 32. And even if Casillas retires before Almunia, there's still Jose Manuel Reina, who's 26. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 When Almunia plays for England football will die a little bit more. Yep i'd agree with that, although I personally wasn't pinning my hopes on him being anything more than a slight bit of squad reinforcement anyway. I think he'll be good for Liverpool. He is a bit suspect defensively, but I am hoping Rafa will sort that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nope, he's still uncapped for the Spanish senior side (and if you see Spain's top goalies, you'll see why Almunia will possibly never be called up by Spain), and now that he's got his English citizenship, he's fully eligible to play for England. It's just a matter of whether Fabio Capello will actually call him up.If Capello doesn't call him up, then internationally, it'll be a very good talent gone to waste. He'll never get called up to the Spanish squad as Iker Casillas is their current first-choice; he's 28, Almunia is 32. And even if Casillas retires before Almunia, there's still Jose Manuel Reina, who's 26. Yep, as a Liverpool fan I am familiar with Reina :D and yeah, I agree that Almunia is a good keeper, I am surprised if he is eligible that he hasn't even been tried by England When Almunia plays for England football will die a little bit more.I think he'll be good for Liverpool. He is a bit suspect defensively, but I am hoping Rafa will sort that. Guess we will see. Personally I don't see the problem with it if he has dual citizenship, but I guess that's a personal thing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I agree that Almunia is a good keeper, I am surprised if he is eligible that he hasn't even been tried by England Best guess is they're probably trying to keep everyone native, even though most of the other top national sides in the world (Germany, Portugal, etc.) have foregin players themselves. Germany have Lukas Podolski and Miroslav Klose, who are both actually Polish. And Portugal have Deco, who's Brazillian. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/810306-england-vs-holland-friendly/#findComment-591426516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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