macrosslover Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 wow that's an ugly mofo, regardless of sex. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591479338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozgeek Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 "She" seems to have male breasts. So "she" does look like a "he". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591479584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Oh I so wouldn't hit that, not even with a bat :x Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591479588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted August 23, 2009 Member Share Posted August 23, 2009 I'm sure there is more behind this test other then checking her gender, they probably want to check for drugs which can make her look like a man! Good point. One never knows these days. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591479900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs_Angel_D Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 A "genetically proven woman" with a muscular body of a man would be unfair for any other women.I mean, why we separate women and men in sports? Because the men are generally stronger and more athletic at the base. If we start to accept women with a body that have more characteristic like a men, why we don't just put all sports unisex then? I don't know what is the limits of fairness in this, I'm not a sport regulator, but in theory, I don't see why we would permit women with man body to participate in women classes. Umm because it's unfair. You can't help how your body develops, just because your body develops to look more masculine doesn't mean you shouldn't be treated the same or not allowed to participate. On another matter, doing this test is in my opinion saying "Woman are only so good, and in order to be any better you have to be male" it's quite insulting. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591480118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwix Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 If they want to spend the money to do it, then so be it. If she's got nothing to hide (no pun intended), then she should comply.It would be interesting if she is really male and transgender. She has a vagina but is genetically supposed to be a male. +1 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591480160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoredBozirini Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 The reproductive role of the organism. If it has eggs and is unable to fertilize those eggs by itself then it is a female. Why do people act like gender is something mysterious? The definition is very clear: "being the sex (of plant or animal) that produces fertilizable gametes (ova) from which offspring develop". Uh, no. Just go for the genes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591480180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorak Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 This whole thing is bull****. If it has a penis, call it a male. Simple as that. If it truly is a female (which I think she is), then I cannot imagine what she must be going through! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591480256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizuran Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 The reproductive role of the organism. If it has eggs and is unable to fertilize those eggs by itself then it is a female. Why do people act like gender is something mysterious? The definition is very clear: "being the sex (of plant or animal) that produces fertilizable gametes (ova) from which offspring develop". Uh, no. Just go for the genes. They both conclude identical results, sexypeperodri. Fortunately, any respectable collegiate dictionary or scientific journal would affirm Solid Knight's definition from a scientific standpoint. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591487836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted September 10, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 10, 2009 Tests show that controversial runner Caster Semenya is a woman ...and a man! The 18-year-old South African champ has no womb or ovaries and her testosterone levels are more than three times higher than those of a normal female, according to reports. The tests, ordered by The International Association of Athletics Federations after Semenya's 800-meter victory in the World Championships, determined she's a hermaphrodite - having both male and female organs. Semenya could be stripped of the gold medal she won in Berlin last month and her competitive future is in limbo, according to Australia's Daily Telegraph. The athletics governing body is also expected to advise her to have surgery to fix the potentially deadly condition, the paper reported. The IAAF would not comment on the results that have yet to be released. According to a source with knowledge of the IAAF tests, Semenya has internal testes - the male sexual organs that produce testosterone. Testosterone is a hormone responsible for building muscles and for producing body hair and a deep voice. Confirmation of the test results is sure to stoke the controversy that erupted after the university student's sensational track triumph. She has been embraced in her home country - where she was declared "our girl" - and appeared on a magazine cover after a feminine makeover. "God made me the way I am and I accept myself. I am who I am and I'm proud of myself," she told You Magazine, which ran a photo spread. "I don't want to talk about the tests. I'm not even thinking about them." Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591560720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted September 11, 2009 Member Share Posted September 11, 2009 Semenya could be stripped of the gold medal she won in Berlin last month and her competitive future is in limbo, according to Australia's Daily Telegraph. That seems only fair to me since she is not a woman in the purest since of the word. Letting her compete against other women would not be fair to them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591561080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris123NT Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I clicked on this thread and found a picture and the first thing that I thought was yep, that's gotta be a dude. Well apparently I'm half right :wacko: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591561100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeta_immersion Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 it should be obvious that she/he cannot compete in an all male OR female competition because she is neither .... therefore not only they should take the medal away but they must implement some screening as to if the person does not show clear female/male genitalia (as born with and not surgically changed) then they cannot compete .... also, this is BS because if she/he is a he (testis) then obviously she would not have won in a male competition hence they put her as female and win ... insane feel sorry for her/him and she does look like a he ... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591561138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asim0 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 ... advise her to have surgery to fix the potentially deadly condition ... wow, didn't know it was deadly Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591561624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdave Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I kind of feel sory for her. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591563892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 That really sucks that she was born this way, but it is really unfair to everybody she destroys in competition. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591563904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Umm because it's unfair. You can't help how your body develops, just because your body develops to look more masculine doesn't mean you shouldn't be treated the same or not allowed to participate.On another matter, doing this test is in my opinion saying "Woman are only so good, and in order to be any better you have to be male" it's quite insulting. Unfair it is, BUT that's how it is. though in some sports it's not accurate and women actually are better. But in the case of runners like here. Menu simply run a lot faster. you can think it's as unfair as you want, but men and women are NOT identical, there are rather big difference to our bodies. and for sports the male body is in general better, go blame evolution. and in this case, "she" has considerable parts of male genetics, and by coincidence she broke all records of all women. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591563938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted September 11, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted September 11, 2009 Tests show that controversial runner Caster Semenya is a woman ...and a man!The 18-year-old South African champ has no womb or ovaries and her testosterone levels are more than three times higher than those of a normal female, according to reports. The tests, ordered by The International Association of Athletics Federations after Semenya's 800-meter victory in the World Championships, determined she's a hermaphrodite - having both male and female organs. << snip >> Source Wow! That is very very shocking. I knew she didn't look exactly like a women, but never through she/he would be a hermaphrodite.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591563942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I had a feeling that would be the answer. I read about that condition in a science class I had and I remember it being on an episode of House :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/814710-semenya-told-to-take-gender-test/page/2/#findComment-591564268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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