callummr Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 In regular browsing, some text which I can only assume has a title-like tag will be displayed in some kind of gibberish. It's not a problem I've had before, and only seems to happen in Firefox. As an example, some of the text on the chi.mp homepage does it. The parts in question are boxed in red, just in case :p Anyone know what's up with this? It's rare, but can get really annoying. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callummr Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Anyone? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklin Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 hmm, It wouldn't have anything to do with the firefox theme or any stylish theme you're using that could be breaking it? you tried using FF with default settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callummr Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Yeah, I've tried disabling all scripts etc, nothing seems to be helping :/ it's very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 This is going to sound silly - but have you done a spyware or virus check lately? Looks somewhat familiar to the strange gibberish hackers are using on Twitter to enable botnets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanelyapple Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 check on new profile, running firefox with -p switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 displays fine for me on firefox 3.5.2, the gibberish should read "Own Your Identity with chi.mp!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callummr Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 This is going to sound silly - but have you done a spyware or virus check lately? Looks somewhat familiar to the strange gibberish hackers are using on Twitter to enable botnets. Yeah, real time protection and scheduled full scans haven't produced a thing. check on new profile, running firefox with -p switch Just tried, still to no avail :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepus Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hate to be the one to state the obvious, but have you cleared your cache, cookies, etc? Does it happen with a different browser? What version of FF is it? Also, don't know about you, but I'm usually quite careful not to post my email address on an open forum, even if it is in an image. Just FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callummr Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hate to be the one to state the obvious, but have you cleared your cache, cookies, etc? Does it happen with a different browser? What version of FF is it? Also, don't know about you, but I'm usually quite careful not to post my email address on an open forum, even if it is in an image. Just FYI. That email just forwards to my main address, so if it was abused I could just filter it out. Never been a problem for me though :) It's only happening in Firefox, which is version 3.5.2. I tried a new profile and clearing everything within that (though presumably there was nothing to clean), but it still displays the gibberish text :/ Thanks for all the suggestions so far guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepus Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Disabled all addons? If that doesn't help, I suggest installing Web Developer add on from here: http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/ Use the CSS button on the toolbar that is installed to disable CSS. See if the heading "Own Your Identity with chi.mp!" appears in that view, or if it still shows the garbled characters. Let me know and we'll carry on the dissection of this :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callummr Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 All addons were disabled in the new profile anyway I believe, so I have tried that. The text shows up perfectly when I disable CSS with the addon you linked. Might it be an issue with the font they're trying to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepus Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 That's exactly what I thought, easiest way to check is to use that to disable CSS. I'm having a look through the page css now... give me 10 mins :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callummr Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 They seem to be h1 and h2 according to that addon, if that's of any help. It lists the affecting code as follows: http://cdn0.chi.mp/1251339277/stylesheets/reset.css?1251339720 body, div, dl, dt, dd, ul, ol, li, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, pre, code, form, fieldset, legend, input, textarea, p, blockquote, th, td (line 7) { margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0pt; padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; } h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 (line 7) { font-size: 100%; font-weight: normal; } http://cdn2.chi.mp/1251339277/stylesheets/beta.css?1251339720 h1 (line 9) { font-size: 2.2em; color: #d97e04; margin-top: 15px; margin-bottom: 20px; line-height: 1em; } #billboard h1 (line 135) { color: #4e2700; font-size: 2em; margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-bottom: 25px; margin-left: 0pt; font-weight: normal; } Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepus Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hmm, nothing wrong... I think your install of FF is having some issues rendering H1 text given specific CSS criteria. If you could let us know what other pages are giving the same weird text, we might be able to work out if it's a FF issue, or perhaps you are just missing a font? Hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callummr Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hmm, nothing wrong... I think your install of FF is having some issues rendering H1 text given specific CSS criteria. If you could let us know what other pages are giving the same weird text, we might be able to work out if it's a FF issue, or perhaps you are just missing a font? Hmmm... The green article title text on Smashing Magazine is also displayed garbled. I'm having trouble thinking of what other sites it's happening on, but it's more than those two for definite. Is there a way to tell what font they're 'asking' Firefox to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepus Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 It's using, in preferential order: Helvetica, Arial and Calibri, and then the default san-serif family (if my understanding of how CSS handles fonts is correct.) Therefore you would need to be missing all of them, which is DOUBTFUL. Simple solution... create a piece of CSS defining 3 different H1s and H2s, each using a different font... Then get a page to reproduce all three H1s and H2s, so you end up with: H1 in Helvetica H2 in Helvetica H1 in Arial H2... etc etc etc Chuck it on a webserver and see if Firefox throws a wobbly! If it does, we've identified the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepus Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Okay, so I did it for you... a very quick knock up: http://www.andrewblackburn.co.uk/headings-test.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callummr Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Okay, so I did it for you... a very quick knock up:http://www.andrewblackburn.co.uk/headings-test.html Ah, thank you - every heading worked perfectly, so the font seems to be fine. This is rather weird, I must say :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepus Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Found this: http://www.geekscribes.net/blog/2009/06/19...dings-solution/ Just like you have. Weird things is, I don't have Helvetica on this machine either, yet it displays fine. A basic solution is included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callummr Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Found this:http://www.geekscribes.net/blog/2009/06/19...dings-solution/ Just like you have. Weird things is, I don't have Helvetica on this machine either, yet it displays fine. A basic solution is included. Ooh, thanks for the link. That's very strange if it works for you. Are you also on 3.5.2? I seem to be able to find hundreds of variants of Helvetica, but not the standard version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted September 1, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 1, 2009 Thread moved to "Software Discussion & Assistance > Web Browser Discussion > Firefox (Gecko)" It may seem pointless now there have been many replies, but it isn't :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted September 4, 2009 Veteran Share Posted September 4, 2009 What fonts do you have installed? Firefox is finding one of them and is using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callummr Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 What fonts do you have installed?Firefox is finding one of them and is using it. I have quite a few fonts installed... Helvetica-wise, everything I could find, but I haven't found a single plain "Helvetica", it's all "LT Bold" and stuff. I'm on my netbook right now and it's absolutely fine, which is pretty weird given I use practically the same stuff on both machines and I don't have Helvetica on it at all, so it's substituting fine. I'll check next time I can get on the desktop what I have on there of those specified in the CSS if that's what you were asking :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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