Buio Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Ferarri F2010 (got from http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=117107&view=findpost&p=4099678 ) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592168634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted January 28, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 28, 2010 I'm not too keen on the new Ferrari. The nose is a carbon copy of last year's Red Bull, which may be effective but is quite ugly. The livery... what were they thinking by making the wings and barge boards white? Ugh. I would have preferred them to be black. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592168784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buio Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I think they still are sponsored by Marlboro until end of 2010, so I guess the red-white and bar-code thing is some sort Marlboro influence. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592168820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
san.W10 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) lol all are saying f10's nose, sidepod... looks like copied from redbull+bmw+braw. :D anyways, f60 & f10 compared f10 is clearly loooong :p and- Ferrari calls off F10 shakedown The Ferrari team has been forced to call off the shakedown of its new car due to the poor weather conditions at the Fiorano circuit.Brazilian Felipe Massa was scheduled to give the new F10 its first run today after the car was unveiled in Maranello this morning. However, the Italian circuit was covered with ice due to the low temperatures and Ferrari has been forced to postpone the run. The team said it will carry out the shakedown as soon as the weather allows it. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81096 what if Ferrari repeats a BMW of 2009 in 2010? :p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlYiCpycuHE ferrari f10 launch (watch from 6.00) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592169238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 i love the color it seems they have gone back to a darker red again. the car itself looks like a redbull copy to me. will that be ennough? sure it will be fast, especially in felipes hands, but i expected a little bit more. lets see what mclaren shows us tomorrow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592169384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Wonder if F1 will ever adapt some form of boost button. They have that in some US racing leagues, and last year the KERS did provide a boost for those using it (but it also came with design penalty). I've read that drivers will be able to adjust the fuel/air mixture themseves to give a few extra bhp, which should act as a kind of boost system. The trade off being extra fuel consumption which could be interesting with no refuelling. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592169430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 The extra difference of the large fuel tank is clear on that overhead comparison, the longer wheelbase is going to make the cars tough to handle at slow tracks. Apart from copying Red Bull's nose design I don't really see much different from last year's car, I guess we will probably see more aero parts when the car takes to the track though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592169504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibby Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I'm not too keen on the new Ferrari. The nose is a carbon copy of last year's Red Bull, which may be effective but is quite ugly. The livery... what were they thinking by making the wings and barge boards white? Ugh. I would have preferred them to be black. It does seem a bit strange. ?I thought the white was there because I thought the santander logo was red. ?But the logo is infact white letter on red. ?So they could have stuck with red and stuck nice big white letters on. ?Perhaps the red on white is better looking? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592170128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
san.W10 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Ferrari: Schumacher return a misdeed Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo says he never expected Michael Schumacher to drive for another team, the Italian labelling the German's return to F1 with Mercedes as a "misdeed". The Ferrari boss also said he was responsible for making Schumacher feel the desire to return to Formula 1 after his retirement in 2006. Schumacher spent 13 years at Ferrari before he decided to quit three years ago. This year it was announced the German would join Mercedes GP for at least three seasons. "I like Schumacher and I'm this misdeed's author," di Montezemolo said during the launch of Ferrari's new car in Maranello. "It was me who woke his desire to come back to racing and honestly I never thought I'd see him in a car that wasn't a Ferrari. "He's a competitor, an opponent, like many others. I'm not worried about the possibility that he might have taken material from our development." Di Montezemolo also praised his own drivers Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa, who he reckons will form a strong partnership this year. "When Ferrari decided in 2005 to take Raikkonen the alternative was Alonso, who now finds himself in a fundamental moment of his life. He's matured, young and strong; he has won two World Championships, one in 2005 and one in 2006, beating us 100 per cent," he added. "We don't have any problem as far as our drivers are concerned. We have Massa, who is back with further enthusiasm, we have Alonso I just told you about and then we have Fisichella as the third driver and two very experienced test drivers: Marc Gene and Luca Badoer." http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81102'>http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81102 ---------------------------------- Exclusive: First image of the new Williams FW32The Williams Formula 1 team broke cover with its new FW32 at the Silverstone circuit on Thursday, completing its first shakedown run ahead of a maiden test at Valencia next week http://www.autosport.com/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592170260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Seriously, what the hell could he have taken to Mercedes? The last time Schumi raced, in 2006 the cars where radically different to the 2010 cars. None of any Ferrari data schumi had would have been any good to them. And honestly, LDM is just moaning for the sake of it. Can't remember which of the Ferrari guys pointed it out, but drivers are just employees like everyone else, and you can't get attatched to them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592170388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
san.W10 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Seriously, what the hell could he have taken to Mercedes? The last time Schumi raced, in 2006 the cars where radically different to the 2010 cars. None of any Ferrari data schumi had would have been any good to them. And honestly, LDM is just moaning for the sake of it. Can't remember which of the Ferrari guys pointed it out, but drivers are just employees like everyone else, and you can't get attatched to them. Enzo Ferrari told his that to his son :p The Ferrari vice-president went on to relate a story his father told him regarding drivers: "He always said that we must never take love for pilots, because they are either killed or going to run for other teams, we must always treat them as employees, though very important." http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268859 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592172860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
san.W10 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 McLaren 2010 challenger MP4-25 launched http://cdn.gallery.autosport.com/picture_free.php/dir/2010mac1/image/l__y8p6865-2 http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1264764376.jpg http://www.autosport.com/gallery/index.php/id/1931 rear diffuser blocked :p http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mp4_25_3.jpg http://cid-be8f17ce9b1078bc.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/mp4-25back.jpg f10 & mp4-25 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592174014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
san.W10 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 McLaren TECHNICAL DISCUSSION Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592174086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 McLaren always produce such beautiful looking F1 cars. It is also interesting to see them go with the connected shark fin design, in the past they had always said that their car was so good under yaw that they didn't need it. Also it will be interesting to see what it looks like when the wraps come off their new diffuser design for the first time, and if it infers them any lap time advantage. Also looks like the wheelbase is a couple of images shorter than that on the Ferrari, I feel it may give them a small advantage at tight and twisty circuits like Monaco. Now that the teams have had a year to get used to the regulations, it is interesting to see what they are coming up with Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592174508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buio Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 That's a huge fin. :o Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592174676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted January 29, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 29, 2010 McLaren always produce such beautiful looking F1 cars. It is also interesting to see them go with the connected shark fin design, in the past they had always said that their car was so good under yaw that they didn't need it. Also it will be interesting to see what it looks like when the wraps come off their new diffuser design for the first time, and if it infers them any lap time advantage. Also looks like the wheelbase is a couple of images shorter than that on the Ferrari, I feel it may give them a small advantage at tight and twisty circuits like Monaco. Now that the teams have had a year to get used to the regulations, it is interesting to see what they are coming up with Look at the comparison image above - the McLaren has a longer wheelbase. I don't like the connected shark fin design at all. Efficient as it may be, it's still ugly. Really, really ugly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592174878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Look at the comparison image above - the McLaren has a longer wheelbase. I don't like the connected shark fin design at all. Efficient as it may be, it's still ugly. Really, really ugly. Oops, so it does :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592174978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas-c Veteran Posted January 29, 2010 Veteran Share Posted January 29, 2010 Wow, They are all going for long wheel bases this year? Any reason in particular? Space for bigger fuel tank maybe? i thought shorter was better in handling? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592175302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Wow, They are all going for long wheel bases this year? Any reason in particular? Space for bigger fuel tank maybe? i thought shorter was better in handling? A shorter wheelbase makes the cars more nimble, and they turn in more sharply, making a car faster at circuits like monaco. A longer wheelbase makes a car more stable, and give up better grip in high speed corners, like Turn 8 at turkey or turn 3 at Barcelona Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592176360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibby Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Will the wheelbase make that much of a difference between the two cars? ?After all aren't Ferrari's meant to rely on aero where as the mclaren is more mechanical for speed? Time will only tell. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592176416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas-c Veteran Posted January 30, 2010 Veteran Share Posted January 30, 2010 Will the wheelbase make that much of a difference between the two cars? ?After all aren't Ferrari's meant to rely on aero where as the mclaren is more mechanical for speed? Time will only tell. The difference doesn't seem that great really, Couple of inches, Don't think it will make too much difference but things like aero, wing placement and diffusers will play a big part in cooperation with the wheelbase Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592176520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Will the wheelbase make that much of a difference between the two cars? ?After all aren't Ferrari's meant to rely on aero where as the mclaren is more mechanical for speed? Time will only tell. The difference is only miniscule, so I can't see the difference being massive like it was in 2007 with McLaren nearly 1s per lap faster. And yes, McLaren do generally tend to fare better at circuits that are more dependant on mechanical grip, and Ferrari do generally design better Aero cars, but if McLaren have stolen as much of a march with their new diffuser as they think, it could make life hard for Ferrari as the noises coming out of their camp indicate that they may have been a bit too conservative again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592179328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
san.W10 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 F1 Launches http://www.autosport.com/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592181648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted January 31, 2010 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 31, 2010 The new BMW Sauber*: Source: Autosport *Team name is likely to be changed before the season kicks off. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592181686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.mcman Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Renault R30 Renault reveals the R30, confirms Petrov Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/823204-formula-1-2010-silly-season/page/6/#findComment-592181918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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