Nightwind Hawk Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Polls from the past at Neowin always label NOD32 as the winner. Now, Microsoft Security Essentials is out and there is a lot of great things to be said about it. In terms of effectiveness and speed, which anti-virus program is better? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 d4rk5ky Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 MSE does what i want it to and its free, with no issues to report so far, so MSE for me :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591755404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 kukubau Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 MSE, by far. NOD32 has been increasingly becoming bloatware with each new version. If you remember, the 2.5, was it, were the pinnacle of performance antivirus, and now, with version 4, it was, in my opinion, hit rock bottom - slows everything so much, it is often unbearable, and I have a pretty fast PC. MSE on the other hand, has better detection rates (no, not false positives :p) and runs heaps faster. NOD32 bloatware?!?!?!? Are you going nuts? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591755454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 deletedxyz Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Malware Removal Test October 2009 Finally, someone bringing factual evidence. Microsoft is rated as "Good" while ESET gets an "Average" rating. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591755474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 NEVER85 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 NOD32 bloatware?!?!?!? Are you going nuts? I don't know if I'd go that far, but memory usage is going up with each new version. ekrn.exe is currently using 47,840K of RAM. Not much when you have 4 GB, but I remember when it would barely use 10 MB. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591755488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ci7 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Malware Removal Test October 2009 didnt know MSE rated that good the pdf will serve well to convince someone i know ..... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591755804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ozgeek Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Currently using MSE and Malwarebytes. Been like this for a week. So far so good :) Absolutely don't understand why people are shelling out money (that would be put to to really good use elsewhere) for security software when there are free and even better ones out there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591756136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 nokiaxion Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I find that VERY hard to believe. Why? Malware Removal Test October 2009 Great link to back up your preference :) But you did forget to note one little thing: Here you find the the Removal-Test results we've released this year. This tests focuses only on the malware removal/cleaning capabilities, therefore all used samples were samples that the tested Anti-Virus products were able to detect. It has nothing to do with detection rates or protection capabilities. Of course, if an Anti-Virus is not able to detect the malware, it is also not able to remove it. The main question was if the products are able to successfully remove malware from an already infected/compromised system. The test report is aimed to normal/typical home users and not Administrators or advanced users that may have the knowledge for advanced/manual malware removal/repair procedures. A further question was if the products are able to remove what they are able to detect. It was a malware test, not a antivirus test. I agree that MSE blows NOD32 (2.7) out of the water in the malware division but not in the virus division. I would have liked to see in this test you posted instead of NOD32, Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware. That would have been alot more normal and fair :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591756738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 GreenMartian Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 It was a malware test, not a antivirus test. I agree that MSE blows NOD32 (2.7) out of the water in the malware division but not in the virus division.I would have liked to see in this test you posted instead of NOD32, Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware. That would have been alot more normal and fair :) Well, AV-Comparatives, as the name suggests, tests antiviruses. This particular set only tests the antivirals against some malware. We'll just have to wait for the virus tests some time before the end of Q4 '09. In the last round, MSE was still in beta, and hence not included Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591756842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 0--JLowzrif Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Why? Great link to back up your preference :) But you did forget to note one little thing: It was a malware test, not a antivirus test. I agree that MSE blows NOD32 (2.7) out of the water in the malware division but not in the virus division. I would have liked to see in this test you posted instead of NOD32, Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware. That would have been alot more normal and fair :) You're right on this, i did forgot to note one little thing: I m a NOD user ;) but this doesn't stop me to post tests like this and btw unlike what the majority believes,these days the real/most common threat comes from malwares instead the old fashioned viruses Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591758418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 EcPercy Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I am going to go with MSE. I am disappointed in ESET. Not their NOD32 software, but in them as a company. I bought one of the NOD32 OEM copies from newegg. When you get the software you have to enable a subscription so you can get a username/password to obtain updates. Apparently, their website looks at the IP address you are accessing their site from. Since I was in Kuwait, at the time, it would not allow me to register my serial number. I e-mailed their customer support with all my information and never heard anything from them. I did wind up getting the software registered, but that was after I got someone that was in the states to go to their website with my serial number and obtain the login/password. I will just stick with MSE from now on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591758602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ambroos Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 MSE is FREE and it's quality rises above any other free product and is at least on par with paid products. I think that's pretty clear. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591758642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Max Veteran Posted October 26, 2009 Veteran Share Posted October 26, 2009 MSE is a good free AV, but NOD32 v4 blows it out of the water. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591758774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 iamwhoiam Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Still a NOD32 user here and have been since the 2.7 days. MSE is decent against other free AV products, I still wouldn't trust the security of my PC to Microsoft. Their track record on security speaks for itself. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591758812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chrysalis Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I just love these replies saying things like "MSE is light" "cant tell difference between it and paid product" When I clearly stated MSE ran bloated and was lacking various option configuribles, I guess its easy to turn a blind eye to make it easier to believe in something. Obviously I respect the problems I had wont affect everyone but these problems do exist evident by a bit of googling which highlights various cases of MSE 100% cpu usage when scanning certian programs/files. For me the performance impact of a AV is crucial, I use nod32 for the simple fact I can turn of real time file scanning and just have the email and http scanning enabled. For someone who cant/wont pay for an AV sure MSE is one of a few good options. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591810694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lee G. Veteran Posted November 6, 2009 Veteran Share Posted November 6, 2009 MSE is a good free AV, but NOD32 v4 blows it out of the water. Agreed! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591810698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Riggers Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Take a look at both in action and make your own mind up. This is only a small test on recent links but does highlight the fact that No AV will catch everything. Since when have Viruses not been Malware? Software is considered malware based on the perceived intent of the creator rather than any particular features. Malware includes computer viruses, worms, trojan horses, most rootkits, spyware, dishonest adware, crimeware and other malicious and unwanted software. In law, malware is sometimes known as a computer contaminant, for instance in the legal codes of several U. S. states, including California and West Virginia. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591817122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 User6060 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I still think NOD32 is the king in being lightweight, adding the least registry entries, and boot-time. I'll have to find the pdf comparing performance. This test is a year old but it shows NOD32 v3 blowing other out of the water http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stor...formance08a.pdf They need a new test with current versions but why would NOD32 get worse with each version ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591817154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Pharos Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 After using MSE for several days, I am pretty sure it has a negative impact on my system's performance. Applications take longer to run, it's very noticeable to me. I switched to Avira and I have to say it doesn't affect my system's performance as much as MSE does. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591817186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tristan Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 After using MSE for several days, I am pretty sure it has a negative impact on my system's performance. Applications take longer to run, it's very noticeable to me. I switched to Avira and I have to say it doesn't affect my system's performance as much as MSE does. I noticed this too. I had many cpu spikes, I don't understand how MSE is "lightweight". I switched backed to Avira, and don't have any problems. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591817252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Squall_Leonheart Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 clear, NOD32....is just a toy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591818436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Madoshi Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 i have had nothing but good from Avira around the time AVG hit version 8.0 (slow as dirt) i began looking for a replacement. tried NOD32 and didn't like it one bit. tried Avast! and liked its lightweightedness and it seemed to work fine. had a bit of an issue with a nasty virus and the dude at work said i should try Avira. running Avira on all my systems, ranging from P3-650 to A64x2-4200+, Win2000 to Win 7, i have had no issues with system speed or reliability. apply some restrictions to the notifier popup EXE and it is now good for my media center, too :) it has caught everything as far as i can tell, for as long as i have had it. consistent across all my machines. very satisfied Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591818500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 alex_13 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 neither. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...slate.google.at Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/829888-nod32-vs-mse/page/2/#findComment-591818600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Polls from the past at Neowin always label NOD32 as the winner. Now, Microsoft Security Essentials is out and there is a lot of great things to be said about it.
In terms of effectiveness and speed, which anti-virus program is better?
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