WinClassicFan Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) I'm not a big fan of the new Windows Explorer. I'm one of those people trying to migrate from XP to 7, having never gone through Vista and there are a couple of things about 7's explorer that bother me. So I was wondering, would it be possible to just use Windows XP's explorer.exe in Windows 7? I already used that "method" to deal with a few other problems, for instance the new Calculator looks pretty horrible in Classic theme and after I changed the fonts in the registry to get rid of Segoe UI it became basically unusable so I've just been using calc.exe from Windows XP which works fine. Now, I have Windows 7 x64, so I tried doing the same thing with explorer.exe - copied it from XP and tried it in 7, but it doesn't work. I get this message: "The application was unable to start correctly (0xc0000142)". My question is - is this because my XP is 32-bit and explorer.exe as a 32-bit application cannot run in windows 7, being much more "complicated" than the calc, or is it because it's simply incompatible. If it's the former, then if I found a copy of Windows XP 64-bit Edition's explorer.exe would that run on 7 or should I not bother at all... Alternatively, the main things that bother me in the new Windows Explorer are: 1) Status bar does not show available free space or anything else besides number of items selected 2) The + signs on the navigation side disappear if the cursor is not in that section, which is mighty annoying. 3) The bar that starts with "Organize" looks dreadful in classic mode and is really useless when you have the standard menu and I would give anything to get rid of it. If anyone knows a way to fix anyone of those things I would be eternally grateful! Edited December 16, 2009 by WinClassicFan Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxz Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I have Windows 7 x64, so I tried doing the same thing with explorer.exe - copied it from XP and tried it in 7, but it doesn't work. :omg: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591980962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted December 16, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2009 You will mostly like not be able to carry that over, specially since you are trying to bring your 32bit XP explorer.exe over to a 64bit Windows 7. You can customize the taskbar you know, perhaps it won't look like Windows XP, but it will look like Windows Vista. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591980966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS Bob 11 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/ <= This will fix the arrows disappearing problem and give you back toolbar buttons. Future versions of the project may fix more annoyances like status bar or auto sort. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591980968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krome Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 A proper registry hacks would do you justice. But that's just my hindsight. But I would not know where to start. I myself just screw up "Manage" context menu on "My Computer" so don't take my suggestion too lightly. Just good precaution on that and I have to learn the hard way. Now I will be off to hunt down for solution to fix my problem. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591980982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 You won't be able to carry explorer over from XP as a shell, sorry mate. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591980984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted December 16, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2009 Colin-uk will like this. A reason he hasn't upgraded from XP, and the fact he loves Internet Explorer 6 :laugh: That Classicshell is pretty neat, i'll try to keep that in mind if someone doesn't like their new Windows 7 start menu Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591980986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
still1 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 wow!!! r u crazy???? will this even work??? I dont think so Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591981002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipodman715 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Move on from XP already Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591981010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinClassicFan Posted December 16, 2009 Author Share Posted December 16, 2009 ^^^ I have actually, I love Win 7 except for the Windows Explorer and a few other things and visual bugs which I'm hoping they'll fix in the first service pack, but the Windows Explorer is driving me a little crazy. @tuxplorer I just installed classic shell, it's not bad but it didn't disable the disappearing arrows, which is by far my biggest annoyance. Second to that is the ridiculously huge, ridiculously ugly and ridiculously useless command bar. If anyone has any idea how to get rid of that I will worship you for all eternity! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591981072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS Bob 11 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) There's a button on the toolbar added by Classic Shell called "Classic Explorer settings". It has an option: "Don't fade buttons". Too bad there's no way to turn off the ugly command bar, MS locked down the UI too much, can't even change its color. Edited December 16, 2009 by tuxplorer Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591981306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinClassicFan Posted December 16, 2009 Author Share Posted December 16, 2009 ^^^ I see. Thanks! You're absolutely right about them locking the UI. It has to do with them trying to cater more to people who are new users / don't know anything... :( this is the trend with everything now and hardcore users are gonna be more and more screwed until we die off... Idiocracy will happen. Anyways, I think I finally found a solution to my problem. It's called Directory Opus. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591981928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReDFoX2200 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 is this a joke? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591981944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoyote.cl Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 LOL? If you don't want to migrate, just don't do it... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591982838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted December 16, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2009 Making a classic XP skin for WindowsBlinds might be a good suggestion to drop over at www.stardock.com Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591983590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Anyways, I think I finally found a solution to my problem. It's called Directory Opus. :D I was just about to suggest this. There are plenty of alternative file managers out there, DO being one of the best imo. But seriously, trying to force XP's Explorer into 7.... why did you even think this might work? :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591983774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devHead Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Now, I have Windows 7 x64, so I tried doing the same thing with explorer.exe - copied it from XP and tried it in 7, but it doesn't work. I get this message: "The application was unable to start correctly (0xc0000142)". My question is - is this because my XP is 32-bit and explorer.exe as a 32-bit application cannot run in windows 7, being much more "complicated" than the calc, or is it because it's simply incompatible. If it's the former, then if I found a copy of Windows XP 64-bit Edition's explorer.exe would that run on 7 or should I not bother at all...Alternatively, the main things that bother me in the new Windows Explorer are: 1) Status bar does not show available free space or anything else besides number of items selected a: No, but if you right-click on a folder and select Properties, you can see that. Plus if you click My Computer in the left hand navigation pane, you can see how much free space for every drive in the right hand pane. 2) The + signs on the navigation side disappear if the cursor is not in that section, which is mighty annoying. a: Yeah, I agree, I would like those to always be visible. It would be nice if that could be restored somehow. 3) The bar that starts with "Organize" looks dreadful in classic mode and is really useless when you have the standard menu and I would give anything to get rid of it. a: Again, what are you doing running in 'classic mode'? Do you mean you're running the old classic UI, and not Aero? If anyone knows a way to fix anyone of those things I would be eternally grateful! I just have a couple questions: Why are you running the Classic Theme? If you have a halfway decent video card, you're better off running Aero, and letting your GPU handle all the graphics rendering of the UI and leave your CPU for just everything else. Secondly, the Calculator with Windows 7 is so infinitely better than the one in Windows XP, and you're using the old one? Why not just run XP for crying out loud? For your three numbered points, see above. Finally, Explorer.exe is the shell! Not just a file browser. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591983852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xilo Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Why do people upgrade if all they are going to do is want to revert to the older versions of parts of the OS? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591983862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devHead Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Why do people upgrade if all they are going to do is want to revert to the older versions of parts of the OS? My theory is this: if they didn't upgrade, they wouldn't have anything to rant about on forums. I mean really, how many responses would you get if you created a new topic with the theme: Well, I'm stilling running XP. Probably not many. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591983914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etempest Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Try geting the explorer.exe from the 64bit version of windows xp, all you have to do is install the trial version of it. Or grab it from the extracted XP 64bit service pack download. Will have to decompress it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591983946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Seriously? You prefer the old explorer file browser with its useless task pane to the Windows 7 browser? Wow... To each their own I suppose. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591983960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sendmeactivationemail Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 So many Windows 7 fanboys. Honestly if you prefer Windows XP, stick with Windows XP. Personally I loved Windows XP, I hated Windows Vista, and so far I really like Windows 7. Of course if you're keen on keeping certain features and interfaces from XP while using Windows 7, sure it's possible, but you're going to be jumping through hoops - just stick with Windows XP (my opinion). There are a lot of minor improvements in Windows 7, but nothing so drastic that you really need to upgrade if you still prefer XP. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591985198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twigboy Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 grab a copy of AveNoBreadCrumb I absolutely HATE those stupid crumbs, but i cant get a working x64 version of this Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591993136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udedenkz Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Is there anyway to get he [+] boxes back next to Folders without any other changes? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591993170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier1st Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 if you want something that an earlier windows has that the new one changed then you will either need to stay on the older one or try hacking the new os to accept your changes but it may not work but it will require alot of work depending on what you want to be hacked in. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/855918-is-it-possible-to-use-windows-xps-explorerexe-in-windows-7/#findComment-591994204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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