____ Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 ODST grew on me - I kinda liked the way the game flowed as you picked up the story by following in your colleagues foot-steps but I just wish it wasn't so bloody dark. The Rookie levels were just annoying. Yeah I thought ODST was the best in the series in terms of how cohesive the story was, the frame story of the rookie held the flashback missions together well and then at the end when you're playing missions as the rookie the missions lead one right into the other. In most of the other games the missions are like a highlight real of the story, you're always jumping around from place to place without enough explanation of what happened in the meantime. It felt to me like Reach was the worst at this, until the very end you really didn't have any long term goal, the beginning is just a bunch of random missions jumbled together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Yeah I thought ODST was the best in the series in terms of how cohesive the story was, the frame story of the rookie held the flashback missions together well and then at the end when you're playing missions as the rookie the missions lead one right into the other. In most of the other games the missions are like a highlight real of the story, you're always jumping around from place to place without enough explanation of what happened in the meantime. It felt to me like Reach was the worst at this, until the very end you really didn't have any long term goal, the beginning is just a bunch of random missions jumbled together. SPOILERS BELOW The problem with story in ODST was and in Reach is that nothing happens between first and last levels that advances the plot. ODST first level : Dare takes you on a secret mission bunch of crap that you do as some other characters and retrace it as rookie. ODST last level : Dare tells you that you need to save the damn engineer and game is over. Reach second level : Halsey tells you there is something important in the latch key. you do bunch of crap in levels that don't add to main plot including a stupid cab driver pilot level. Reach second to last level : Halsey tells you that you must save and take cortana to PoA I still like the game in terms of the way bungie developed the Reach atmosphere, the feel of desperation. The gameplay, weapons, AAs, enemy AI - everything is rock solid and excellent! Bungie just forgot to bring a good story to the Reach party. I feel ODST was just a mini Reach with Halo3 mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 There are spoiler tags you know! Sigh, ruined it for me now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 There are spoiler tags you know! Sigh, ruined it for me now! So you read "Spoilers below" and continued to read? ... Own fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 There are spoiler tags you know! Sigh, ruined it for me now! why would you read beyond "SPOILERS BELOW" ? Added spoiler tags in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Some mind boggling numbers are in: 31,000,000 Games have been played since launch 98,000,000 Player-games have been recorded 8,214,338 Daily Challenges have been completed 255,996 Weekly Challenges have been completed 78,499,560,895 Total Credits have been earned 953 Man-years have been spent in matchmade games 1365 Man-years have been spent in campaign 854,107 files have been uploaded 577,804 recommendations have been sent to friends 4,619,455 files have been downloaded http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2010/09/18/31-million-halo-reach-matches-have-already-been-played/ Good god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 So you read "Spoilers below" and continued to read? ... Own fault. I don't read everything on Neowin as there is such rubbish sometimes so yeah I just skim read some posts. I'm not that bothered but there are spoiler tags for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I don't read everything on Neowin as there is such rubbish sometimes so yeah I just skim read some posts. I'm not that bothered but there are spoiler tags for a reason. Still your own fault then ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Still your own fault then ;) No, its not and you know it! :p The site has spoiler tags for that reason! Played some Invasion Slayer earlier and it was just so boring! You just have to basically kill and get to 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 SPOILERS BELOW The problem with story in ODST was and in Reach is that nothing happens between first and last levels that advances the plot. ODST first level : Dare takes you on a secret mission bunch of crap that you do as some other characters and retrace it as rookie. ODST last level : Dare tells you that you need to save the damn engineer and game is over. Reach second level : Halsey tells you there is something important in the latch key. you do bunch of crap in levels that don't add to main plot including a stupid cab driver pilot level. Reach second to last level : Halsey tells you that you must save and take cortana to PoA I still like the game in terms of the way bungie developed the Reach atmosphere, the feel of desperation. The gameplay, weapons, AAs, enemy AI - everything is rock solid and excellent! Bungie just forgot to bring a good story to the Reach party. I feel ODST was just a mini Reach with Halo3 mechanics. The atmosphere, as with the gameplay, was good up to the end of the space mission. Then after that it just reverts completely back to what Bungie is known for. For some people, I suppose they may like that... but the game had such a great start and ended with such cliched gameplay mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted September 19, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted September 19, 2010 I am pretty sure that we will see Gears of War 3 introduce the campaign that will be truly emotional. WTF? Gears of War probably has one of the worst stories in gaming history. Sethos says it best It's the frat boy "OMG MUSCLES AND BADDDDDASSNESS YAAAEH" aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedJoker Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 WTF? Gears of War probably has one of the worst stories in gaming history. It's not that bad. Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem, Crysis...all have similarly contrived stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 It's not that bad. Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem, Crysis...all have similarly contrived stories. And none of them were praised for their story. I can't believe what I'm hearing, no wonder developers don't bother with good stories or story telling any more, people sucks up everything like a Shamwow :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted September 19, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted September 19, 2010 It's not that bad. Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem, Crysis...all have similarly contrived stories. MAAAAAAAARIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Yeah, it is. I have high standards when it comes to story writing and Gears is anything but emotional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostAM Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Quick question about a certain part of the campaign, spoilers ahead! What in the world happened to Jun? After Hasley tells Noble 6 to get Cortana to the PoA, Jun goes with Hasley and is never heard from again. Did he survive the fall of Reach? Is it possible that we could see some DLC content related to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 The atmosphere, as with the gameplay, was good up to the end of the space mission. Then after that it just reverts completely back to what Bungie is known for. For some people, I suppose they may like that... but the game had such a great start and ended with such cliched gameplay mechanics. What did you expect. Reach was going into total war and chaos, of course they're just going to throw enemies at you. I have to disagree, I really enjoyed all of the SP mode and loved all the Halo 1 tie-ins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedJoker Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 MAAAAAAAARIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Yeah, it is. I have high standards when it comes to story writing and Gears is anything but emotional. It's an FPS game. It's not meant to be Jane Austen. They're meant to be big crash bang omg-he-chewed-his-own-face-off shootathons with good set-pieces. If you need "emotion" to shoot stuff in the face you probably should see a doctor. The story is merely a MacGuffin - a reason to shoot stuff in the face. Who cares if the reason is the resurgence of an ancient race or because someone from the future stole your taco? I can't think of any FPS which has a decent storyline except possibly Half-Life but even that rips off movies from the 50's and Orwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeston Veteran Posted September 19, 2010 Veteran Share Posted September 19, 2010 Did anybody check out my map I posted a few pages ago? I'm just looking for any kind of feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I can't think of any FPS which has a decent storyline except possibly Half-Life but even that rips off movies from the 50's and Orwell. Here's one: Bioshock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedJoker Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Here's one: Bioshock. Ruined the moment they take it to the skies though :( and by pedestrian gameplay :( Did anybody check out my map I posted a few pages ago? I'm just looking for any kind of feedback. I will soon as I figure out why my usb stick doesn't work in my xbox :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorwing Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Quick question about a certain part of the campaign, spoilers ahead! What in the world happened to Jun? After Hasley tells Noble 6 to get Cortana to the PoA, Jun goes with Hasley and is never heard from again. Did he survive the fall of Reach? Is it possible that we could see some DLC content related to it? He probably did survive, if their bird didn't get shot down. I'm not too sure if Dr. Hasley survives the Reach invasion in the books, if she does, Jun probably did survive. If she doesn't, Jun is probably dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Ruined the moment they take it to the skies though :( and by pedestrian gameplay :( Judging from your other thread, you never even played it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeston Veteran Posted September 19, 2010 Veteran Share Posted September 19, 2010 I will soon as I figure out why my usb stick doesn't work in my xbox :/ I've got that problem too. I went and bought an OCZ 4GB Diesel for mine and it just fails the data loss test... Even my really old and crappy 6GB WD Pocket Drive works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikh Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I've got that problem too. I went and bought an OCZ 4GB Diesel for mine and it just fails the data loss test... Even my really old and crappy 6GB WD Pocket Drive works! From my experience it has something to do with read/write speeds. My Patriot XT and Sandisk Cruzer work great but my brand new toshiba mini 8gb and my pny attach? 4gb won't work either. I think specs were posted about what a "compatible flash drive" should require for it to work with 360. EDIT: Specs are half way down the page. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981975 Funny thing, looking over the specs I just realized my patriot is formatted ntfs and works but my pny and toshiba are formatted ntfs and don't work. When I'm home tonight I'm gonna format the toshiba and pny and see if fat32 does work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slane Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Solo legendary complete. Really easy. Really disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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