dslabby Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) Comcast dumps McAfee for Symantec's Norton security suite 05:44 PM Jan 20, 2010 http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2010/01/comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-360/1 http://security.comcast.net/norton/resi/?CID=NET_33_248 Sally Jenkins is VP of consumer marketing at Symantec. Courtesy Symantec: Antivirus giant Symantec just announced a big triumph over rival McAfee. Starting today, Symantec's Norton Security Suite will begin replacing McAfee's antivirus service for some 15.7 million home and business subscribers to Comcast's high-speed Internet service. The revenue boost for Symantec -- and loss for McAfee -- is a big number. Comcast will pay Symantec an undisclosed amount for delivering ongoing Norton protection for up to seven PCs for each of Comcast's 15.7 million broadband subscribers. Comcast subscribers will now get a version of Norton Security Suite similar to the one Symantec sells online or at Best Buy for $79.95 a year, says Sally Jenkins, vice president of consumer marketing. She declined to disclose how much Comcast agreed to pay Symantec for protecting up to seven PCs per Comcast household, which could total as many as 110 million computers. "It's a huge win and a great win," says Jenkins. "We're very excited. McAfee was the incumbent and we have displaced them with this new partnership with Comcast." Jenkins notes that Symantec has similar supplier deals with ISPs Earthlink and UOL in the U.S.; T-Home and 1&1 in Germany; and Emobile in Japan. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzta cody Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Doesn't really matter, as both McAfee and Norton are junk. Why use this? Oh, right, for the illusion of safety, as these all have the multitude of green indicators for "you are protected" and so on. Most of us in the know, we'll continue to use the lighter and always FREE alternatives. Replacing junk with different junk. Lol! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592149126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
P!P Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) I'm a PC Tech and a lot my customers use what Comcast provides because they feel they're paying for it or something. I hate both McAfee and Norton and tell my customers as such. I don't use any virus protection since I know what I'm doing but if I were to use something, I'd probably use like AVG or Antvir for real-time scanning with MBAM (Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware) for on-demand scanning. All free and in my opinion better than McAfee, Norton, or most AVs out there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592149160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_here Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) @mzta cody 1. Do you have anything better to do than bash Symantec? NAV has supposed gotten much better. 2. So you don't think the lighter and free alternatives have green indicators too? And Im sure free AVs have the "illusion of safety" as well. For example maybe on a computer running MSE a piece of malware goes undetected but then you switch to avast and it detects it. voidpharoh 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592149190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorbing Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 On 24/01/2010 at 18:00, mzta cody said: Doesn't really matter, as both McAfee and Norton are junk. Why use this? Oh, right, for the illusion of safety, as these all have the multitude of green indicators for "you are protected" and so on. Most of us in the know, we'll continue to use the lighter and always FREE alternatives. Replacing junk with different junk. Lol! I agree with you 100%. I will tell you this true story: I work for the cable company here in Central Florida and I am a PC Tech for them. The other day I went to a customer home to fix an internet issue. Customer was complaining that she couldn't connect to the internet and was of course blaming our service and equipment. When I got there, she had a brand new PC with Norton Internet Security 2010. Up to date and with a subscription valid until 2011. I checked our stuff and everything was fine. Then I opened her Norton and scanned her PC and Norton said there was nothing. That her PC was clean. So I went ahead and installed Malwarebytes and scanned her PC with it. Guess what? Malwarebytes found 247 infected objects, some from Rogue Software (they make that fake antivirus called Antivirus 2009) and a lot of backdoor and other trojans. So what does this tell you? Very simple: Norton sucks. The little green lights that tell you "you are now safe" mean nothing, like you said. I was able to remove the infected objects with Malwarebytes and guess what? Her computer was back to normal. I told her to get a real antivirus such as NOD32. ZonoBurk 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592149194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
master2k27 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 On 24/01/2010 at 18:10, Scorbing said: I agree with you 100%. I will tell you this true story: I work for the cable company here in Central Florida and I am a PC Tech for them. The other day I went to a customer home to fix an internet issue. Customer was complaining that she couldn't connect to the internet and was of course blaming our service and equipment. When I got there, she had a brand new PC with Norton Internet Security 2010. Up to date and with a subscription valid until 2011. I checked our stuff and everything was fine. Then I opened her Norton and scanned her PC and Norton said there was nothing. That her PC was clean. So I went ahead and installed Malwarebytes and scanned her PC with it. Guess what? Malwarebytes found 247 infected objects, some from Rogue Software (they make that fake antivirus called Antivirus 2009) and a lot of backdoor and other trojans. So what does this tell you? Very simple: Norton sucks. The little green lights that tell you "you are now safe" mean nothing, like you said. I was able to remove the infected objects with Malwarebytes and guess what? Her computer was back to normal. I told her to get a real antivirus such as NOD32. lol whatever Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592149272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted January 24, 2010 Member Share Posted January 24, 2010 I find Norton just a wee bit better than McAfee myself. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592149300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+chorpeac MVC Posted January 24, 2010 MVC Share Posted January 24, 2010 hahahaha....Love it. I really enjoy Norton. It has been really quick and not noticeable in terms of system resources. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592149318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-byte Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 So many ignorant Norton bashers. Not surprising that they switched Norton is a really good product now.? ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592150398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Reid Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 from what ive seen norton is a much better product now Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592150634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawr_boy81 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On 24/01/2010 at 22:47, x-byte said: So many ignorant Norton bashers. Not surprising that they switched Norton is a really good product now.? ? it took long enough to fix up their damn product. Mind you, why waste your time when you can get the Microsoft antivirus for free? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592150938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo158 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) On 25/01/2010 at 00:53, rawr_boy81 said: it took long enough to fix up their damn product. Mind you, why waste your time when you can get the Microsoft antivirus for free? So you trust Microsoft for your Anti Virus, you're braver than I thought!!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592150964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamwhoiam Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On 24/01/2010 at 23:35, reidtheweed01 said: from what ive seen norton is a much better product now You can polish a turn only so much, and in the end it's still a turd. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592150968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawr_boy81 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On 25/01/2010 at 01:01, neo158 said: So you trust Microsoft for your Anti Virus, you're braver than I thought!!!! what evidence fo you have that symantec or mcafee would be better? The illusion that because you've paid an arm and a leg it magically makes it better? 10 years of crap, CPU hogging, instability cause garbage products gives them a better reputation when compared to a couple of years bad luck experienced microsoft? Lord help is from your wisdom! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592151822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathanielt Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On 25/01/2010 at 05:15, rawr_boy81 said: what evidence fo you have that symantec or mcafee would be better? The illusion that because you've paid an arm and a leg it magically makes it better? 10 years of crap, CPU hogging, instability cause garbage products gives them a better reputation when compared to a couple of years bad luck experienced microsoft? Lord help is from your wisdom! Well, you could take a look at this report which gives the 2009 summary of A/V products. Symantec does have the product of the year 2009. Not to say that it is perfect, but they have improved quite a lot. However, having mentioned that, MSE is in its own right a brilliant product, and I am confident it will keep getting better. AV Comparatives Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592151862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 From my experience, the Home versions of both Norton and McAfee are quite bloated and crappy, but the business versions (Symantec AV and McAfee Enterprise) are quite solid, slim and fast, offering good protection and management capabilities. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592151872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltecXP Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) At work we run Symantec Enterprise. We still have to run AntiMalwareBytes and SUPERantispyware to clean machines. Symantec seems to only catch (some times) Virii, never catches any spyware. Also we called it the "Wednesday slowdown" when the AV kicks off at noon and runs the PC:s so hard they are damn near unusable. These are XP SP3 machines with ONLY office 2007, and Symantec with 3.4GHz and 2GB of RAM being brought to a halt by Symantec ever Wed at noon. Sadly this is the new Endpoint version too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592151884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On 25/01/2010 at 05:37, AltecXP said: At work we run Symantec Enterprise. We still have to run AntiMalwareBytes and SUPERantispyware to clean machines. Symantec seems to only catch (some times) Virii, never catches any spyware. Also we called it the "Wednesday slowdown" when the AV kicks off at noon and runs the PC:s so hard they are damn near unusable. These are XP SP3 machines with ONLY office 2007, and Symantec with 3.4GHz and 2GB of RAM being brought to a halt by Symantec ever Wed at noon. Sadly this is the new Endpoint version too. well, all Anti-Virus software will slow down the system when it's doing on-demand scanning. That's why on-demand scans are usually set at lunch time when people don't need to use the PCs. The problem about the Home versions is that they slow down the system even when it's not doing on-demand scanning. :shiftyninja: Last company I worked for used McAfee Enterprise with Antispyware module. And it seems it catches all kind of stuffs, and may be even a bit too much in removing "potentially unwanted programs". I have to set a special exlusion folder to store my security analysis tools. We didn't have any virus/spyware problem, but for the normal employees, they can't do much besides surfing the web and working with MS Office, anything remotely suspicious will be promptly deleted, which may be what the boss wanted anyway. :shiftyninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592151992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-byte Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On 25/01/2010 at 00:53, rawr_boy81 said: it took long enough to fix up their damn product. Mind you, why waste your time when you can get the Microsoft antivirus for free? Norton is more than a antivirus. On 25/01/2010 at 01:02, iamwhoiam said: You can polish a turn only so much, and in the end it's still a turd. If you look at the antivirus product of 2009 as a turd then the problem might be you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592152176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Reid Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On 25/01/2010 at 05:37, AltecXP said: At work we run Symantec Enterprise. We still have to run AntiMalwareBytes and SUPERantispyware to clean machines. Symantec seems to only catch (some times) Virii, never catches any spyware. Also we called it the "Wednesday slowdown" when the AV kicks off at noon and runs the PC:s so hard they are damn near unusable. These are XP SP3 machines with ONLY office 2007, and Symantec with 3.4GHz and 2GB of RAM being brought to a halt by Symantec ever Wed at noon. Sadly this is the new Endpoint version too. why wednesday at noon and not say a friday at 5pm, or pretty much anytime in the middle of the night or weekend? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592152180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-byte Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On 25/01/2010 at 07:11, reidtheweed01 said: why wednesday at noon and not say a friday at 5pm, or pretty much anytime in the middle of the night or weekend? Because 95% of the users have gone home at that time on Friday ... And shut down the computer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592152196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
master2k27 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 lots of Norton bashers here, Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592152212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamwhoiam Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On 25/01/2010 at 07:11, x-byte said: If you look at the antivirus product of 2009 as a turd then the problem might be you. No, the problem is with people discounting the opinions of others simply because they don't agree with what's been posted. It seems to be the norm here on Neowin. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592152234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-byte Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592152254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On 25/01/2010 at 01:01, neo158 said: So you trust Microsoft for your Anti Virus, you're braver than I thought!!!! They did after-all.. ya know.. DESIGN WINDOWS. If anyone is going to be familiar with virus situation on the windows platform I think it'd be them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/868420-comcast-dumps-mcafee-for-symantecs-norton-security-suite/#findComment-592152352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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