hdood Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 If you had actually bothered to look for yourself, you would see that most search results regarding the subject show 2 things: 9/11 and the most recent IRS building in Austin Texas. You made a very specific claim. You said that several buildings "built in a similar fashion as the twin towers" have been hit by planes. Let's concentrate on just the ones that have been hit by airliners, to make it easier for you. You have yet to provide even one example. I don't understand why not, since you earlier claimed you knew of several. You've probably spent more time dodging the question than it would have taken to just answer it. The IRS building has nothing to do with the WTC, neither does the Empire State Building. Kind of hard to research something else when that's all that comes up. The timeline link I provided, which you obviously didn't bother looking at, shows more than enough to back me up anyway. The link you provided was a generic search for "history of airplanes crashing into buildings." That has little to do with your very specific claim (buildings with a similar construction to the WTC), not buildings in general. Strictly speaking it would also have to be a fairly large airliner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1k3sT Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 Awesome. Except this isn't Nazi Germany. What did the US government get besides a massive pile of debut they're now panicking about? This isn't Nazi Germany? Could have fooled me... How many rights have been lost since 9/11?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxError Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Awesome. Except this isn't Nazi Germany. What did the US government get besides a massive pile of debut they're now panicking about? You obviously don't know your history. Go look it up and do the math. The burning of the Reichstag gave Hitler the excuse he needed to declare himself dictator, clean house (kill his opposition) and start his wars, among other things. 9/11 gave Bush the excuse he needed to start his wars, wiretap American citizens, kidnap and torture people, chip away at the Constitution and our rights, etc.... It's really not hard to see. The IRS building has nothing to do with the WTC, neither does the Empire State Building. I never said they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Knight Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 First of all, the term "the government" is wrong, the claim is that certain people in high positions did it. The ides isn't that it's the whole government, just key people high up in the ranks. As for motive, false flags always have the same motive, plus have you ever heard of Haliburton? Because it takes an act of war to recklessly spend money? The government didn't do things like blow huge wads of cash on stupid things during Katrina? Contractors didn't get away with ridiculously fat contracts? Companies don't exploit various situations to make a profit? You obviously don't know your history. Go look it up and do the math. The burning of the Reichstag gave Hitler the excuse he needed to declare himself dictator, clean house (kill his opposition) and start his wars, among other things. 9/11 gave Bush the excuse he needed to start his wars, wiretap American citizens, kidnap and torture people, etc.... It's really not hard to see. You obviously haven't been paying attention. Bush did not gain from this. He didn't become a dictator. And he became one of the most hated presidents of all time. So what did he gain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamawesomewicked Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 If you had actually bothered to look for yourself, you would see that most search results regarding the subject show 2 things: 9/11 and the most recent IRS building in Austin Texas. Kind of hard to research something else when that's all that comes up. The timeline link I provided, which you obviously didn't bother looking at, shows more than enough to back me up anyway. Also, I don't feel I need to justify myself to the likes of you, who won't even bother looking for himself. Just to get you started, there was one in China in 2008 I think. I hope you know that the plane that hit the IRS building in Austin Texas.. wasn't a god damn 757 nor was it a 767... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 First of all, the term "the government" is wrong, the claim is that certain people in high positions did it. The ides isn't that it's the whole government, just key people high up in the ranks. It could not have been pulled off by a few "key people." It would have required thousands upon thousands of people being in on it. Most with absolutely nothing to gain. By the way, you still haven't told me where the passengers, crews and planes are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1k3sT Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 Where in my post did I say "she has to fit into the official story"? Did I not say for her to look into the facts/theories...and to revisit the events of 9/11? Where did I mention for her to just believe the government officials? :rolleyes: What evidence do you have? What evidence do you have that has not be DEBUNKED by people with higher intelligence in physics and structural engineering than both you and I combined. Reason why I wouldn't want to debate with you...it is practically impossible to debate with people like you. I could link you to every article on the reasons why 9/11 happened...but you wouldn't believe a one of them. They have been out there for years for everyone to see...so obviously you either a) read...but dismissed them or b) didn't care to read them. "You can't fix stupid" :pinch: Sorry, I read your post wrong when I replied to it. I've looked into the all the evidence from both sides and I can't see how anyone that has done the same can still believe the official story... Did you read the stuff from the link I posted? http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/ Proof of thermite, that HASN'T been debunked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe User Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Are you serious?! I hope you are joking... A youtube video does NOT trump peer reviewed scientific evidence. Besides, the video you posted doesn't even mention the paper I linked to, it's a completely different paper... LOL As for the beginning of your post, that is what's called an ad hominem attack, or an attack on the messenger/person. If the evidence is so much in your favor all you have to do is provide it, I'm waiting. A youtube video will not work to trump a peer reviewed scientific paper. He's attacking the fact that it's not properly peer reviewed. The university had major issues with the "peer review". Not a problem, just update it, publish it again and have it properly reviewed. Call me when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1k3sT Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 It could not have been pulled off by a few "key people." It would have required thousands upon thousands of people being in on it. Most with absolutely nothing to gain. By the way, you still haven't told me where the passengers, crews and planes are. I don't like to theorize, I'll leave that up to the "official" conspiracy theory believers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Did you read the stuff from the link I posted? How come they still haven't been able to get published in a real scientific journal? Is it because they're all in on it too? I don't like to theorize, I'll leave that up to the "official" conspiracy theory believers... Nonsense. When you claim the various things can't have happened the way the official reports document it, then you have to provide an alternative explanation. Just tell me where they are in this alternate theory you're proposing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1k3sT Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 He's attacking the fact that it's not properly peer reviewed. The university had major issues with the "peer review". Not a problem, just update it, publish it again and have it properly reviewed. Call me when that happens. The paper in the video isn't even the same paper I linked to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxError Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Because it takes an act of war to recklessly spend money? The government didn't do things like blow huge wads of cash on stupid things during Katrina? Contractors didn't get away with ridiculously fat contracts? Companies don't exploit various situations to make a profit? You obviously haven't been paying attention. Bush did not gain from this. He didn't become a dictator. And he became one of the most hated presidents of all time. So what did he gain? You assume Bush wanted to personally gain from 9/11. In fact he did gain bigtime through the companies he is connected with, not to mention big oil. Have you forgotten the Bush family have always been in the oil business? Then there's Dick Cheney, at one time President and CEO of Halliburton, parent company of Blackwater, and you can bet still heavily connected with them. I hope you know that the plane that hit the IRS building in Austin Texas.. wasn't a god damn 757 nor was it a 767... You are truly a moron. You fail at english. Go back and read what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1k3sT Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 How come they still haven't been able to get published in a real scientific journal? Is it because they're all in on it too? I'm sure it could be in the most prestigious journal in the world and you would still find a reason to not look into it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamawesomewicked Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Sorry, I read your post wrong when I replied to it. I've looked into the all the evidence from both sides and I can't see how anyone that has done the same can still believe the official story... Did you read the stuff from the link I posted? http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/ Proof of thermite, that HASN'T been debunked! How hasn't the thermite been debunked exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I'm sure it could be in the most prestigious journal in the world and you would still find a reason to not look into it... Why isn't it though? Answer that. It's not in any. Is it because they're all in on it? Also, I have looked into it. I thought that was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Knight Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Sorry, I read your post wrong when I replied to it. I've looked into the all the evidence from both sides and I can't see how anyone that has done the same can still believe the official story... Did you read the stuff from the link I posted? http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/ Proof of thermite, that HASN'T been debunked! Understanding of steel construction fail. Of course thermite is going to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1k3sT Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 How hasn't the thermite been debunked exactly? How has it? That's the thing, you can't just say it's been debunked, you need to provide a link to what debunks it. A video concerning a completely different paper doesn't count, lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom II Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Well I only know 2 things about this 1.) Bush admitted watching the first plane hit the first tower on a TV screen (Cameras were not on until after the 1st plane crash) 2.) You can clearly see small controlled explosions 1 floor below the collapse all the way down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeretikSaint Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 This isn't Nazi Germany? Could have fooled me... How many rights have been lost since 9/11?! So you believe this is Nazi Germany? So a people of a specific religion are being tricked into gas chambers, burning furnaces, and tens of thousands of people are dying by guillotine currently within this country? So a particular ideal is being forced upon people with the fear of death or torture? So this country is currently taking part in a mass genocide? Militia is roaming the streets looking for any sort of government defiance? The military is searching through homes looking for people being harbored for fear of being murdered? I guess the U.S. is attacking countries unsanctioned and no other purpose than to completely take over and dominate the world. I guess people are being eradicated so that the human race will be a pure Aryan race. The United State is by no means perfect but you comparison of Nazi Germany is completely unfounded and borderline idiotic. Before making such a claim again, I'd like you to go find a Holocaust survivor and I'd like you to inquire if the current United States compares to the wretched state of Nazi Germany. Only after the verification of someone who lived in the era of that horror may you then make that claim. U.S. isn't perfect but you have no idea how good you have it if you think this is Nazi Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1k3sT Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 Understanding of steel construction fail. Of course thermite is going to be found. Your understanding fails, there is no way for it to mix the way it did by coincidence. If you would have bothered to read my link you would know this. http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Wind Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 The game is called "Jenga", look it up. Small kids have a better grasp of physics than you do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vmIGGKvIms&feature=related OMFG It's a game, genius. We're talking about BUILDINGS. QUAKE PROOF STRUCTURES BUILT TO WITHSTAND STRONG WIND. It's not built of solid brick. There are rooms, hollow points, air pockets. Places with less structual foundation than other's. Places where failure can start and stop. If kids are learning physics from games... never mind I'm not even going to answer that. That's like comparing the Titanic break up to the collapse of the twin towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1k3sT Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 So you believe this is Nazi Germany? So a people of a specific religion are being tricked into gas chambers, burning furnaces, and tens of thousands of people are dying by guillotine currently within this country? So a particular ideal is being forced upon people with the fear of death or torture? So this country is currently taking part in a mass genocide? Militia is roaming the streets looking for any sort of government defiance? The military is searching through homes looking for people being harbored for fear of being murdered? I guess the U.S. is attacking countries unsanctioned and no other purpose than to completely take over and dominate the world. I guess people are being eradicated so that the human race will be a pure Aryan race. The United State is by no means perfect but you comparison of Nazi Germany is completely unfounded and borderline idiotic. Before making such a claim again, I'd like you to go find a Holocaust survivor and I'd like you to inquire if the current United States compares to the wretched state of Nazi Germany. Only after the verification of someone who lived in the era of that horror may you then make that claim. U.S. isn't perfect but you have no idea how good you have it if you think this is Nazi Germany. What happened in Nazi Germany didn't happen overnight, if it did the people would have revolted. Instead things got incrementally worse and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billus Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Wow, you guys do realise that those "small explosions" were caused from fuel particles blowing up right? Heat melts metal hence why buildings crash and burn downwards. Seriously, where did you guys go to school or is that a conspiracy as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Knight Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 You assume Bush wanted to personally gain from 9/11. In fact he did gain bigtime through the companies he is connected with, not to mention big oil. Have you forgotten the Bush family have always been in the oil business? You are truly a moron. You fail at english. Go back and read what I said. Oh yeah, all the oil we could have gotten from a dozen other places and were already getting from Iraq via Oil for Food. I'm sure the billions spent on the war totally made it an economical plan. Cheapest damn oil we ever got. I wonder why we don't buy it in high quantities. I wonder why Iraq isn't exclusively selling it to the US. Oh, and he might of profited? Because starting a war was the only way that could of happened. It's not like he could have just set up contracts with preferred companies on the sly without having to start two wars first. Because no other politician in history has ever set up a contract that they could profit from without going to war first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamawesomewicked Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Your understanding fails, there is no way for it to mix the way it did by coincidence. If you would have bothered to read my link you would know this. http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/ There you go. Although, I know you wont read it.. so I'll quote it just for fun. Maybe I'm being a little unfair. Maybe I just happened to get this from some obscure site. Maybe I work for the government and have a stash of photos the scholars aren't privy to... No, actually I got this from the same place the scholars got their photo.Scholars Photo: http://hereisnewyork.org/gallery/thumb.asp?CategoryID=5&picnum=13 The above photo http://hereisnewyork.org/gallery/thumb.asp?CategoryID=5&picnum=73 Note the yellow smoke and residue left behind by the ironworker. Thermite in general makes an ugly hole with molten metal drips/blobs. It doesn't make clean cuts. It's a powder that undergoes a violent chemical reaction as seen in the video below. I left it short as to not spam the postings. Read the rest. http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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