Steven P. Administrators Posted June 12, 2010 Administrators Share Posted June 12, 2010 Well then why do you have a menubar + a bookmarks bar with nothing on it... You're creating the ugly ass UI with all your settings. No I'm not, thats the default UI when you install it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 Guys, please tell me why the hell I want so much glass at the top of the browser? I tried it and the inactive tabs are unreadable and basically looks like crap at the top.. Depending entirely of course what Wallpaper you have on Windows, well I use the default one.. and it makes the top of the browser look totally unfriendly and harder to use :/ Example Ah , it really looks bad , but have a look @ the my attachment too What i mean is , you have the option to hide all of them , so why not? Hide the bookmark's bar , menu bar , and see , its friendly again! No I'm not, thats the default UI when you install it. 1)Its pre alpha , default settings will change when Firefox Menu button will come 2)Background for bookmark bar will land soon , so aero for that will also be lost soon 3)Its firefox , you can change the looks anytime :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Ah , it really looks bad , but have a look @ this too What i mean is , you have the option to hide all of them , so why not? Hide the bookmark's bar , menu bar , and see , its friendly again! 1)Its pre alpha , default settings will change when Firefox Menu button will come 2)Background for bookmark bar will land soon , so aero for that will also be lost soon 3)Its firefox , you can change the looks anytime :) That on the other hand isn't a default layout :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 That on the other hand isn't a default layout :) In either case , you have option to change :) So don't act lazy :p (no offense) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Heartripper Subscriber¹ Posted June 12, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted June 12, 2010 Guys, please tell me why the hell I want so much glass at the top of the browser? I tried it and the inactive tabs are unreadable and basically looks like crap at the top.. Depending entirely of course what Wallpaper you have on Windows, well I use the default one.. and it makes the top of the browser look totally unfriendly and harder to use :/ Example it's not final: and anyway it's a matter of tastes. as far as i'm concerned, i can't stand the way chrome's tabs are attached to the top of the window. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 it's not final: and anyway it's a matter of tastes. as far as i'm concerned, i can't stand the way chrome's tabs are attached to the top of the window. you explained that graphically : 1)Its pre alpha , default settings will change when Firefox Menu button will come 2)Background for bookmark bar will land soon , so aero for that will also be lost soon 3)Its firefox , you can change the looks anytime :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted June 12, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 12, 2010 Guys, please tell me why the hell I want so much glass at the top of the browser? I tried it and the inactive tabs are unreadable and basically looks like crap at the top.. Depending entirely of course what Wallpaper you have on Windows, well I use the default one.. and it makes the top of the browser look totally unfriendly and harder to use :/ [...] Why the hell you want so much glass at the top of the browser? You obviously don't :p However, some of us do :) When I use Firefox in this way, I'll just ensure I'm using a desktop background which looks great with that much glass and I won't use the browser over other windows - it'll look so good then (to me); however, I do believe they should give people an option, in case they have a set up like yours. I think, not only do glass applications look bad with the default Windows 7 wallpaper, but the Task Bar does as well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Heartripper Subscriber¹ Posted June 12, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted June 12, 2010 Why the hell you want so much glass at the top of the browser? You obviously don't :p However, some of us do :) When I use Firefox in this way, I'll just ensure I'm using a desktop background which looks great with that much glass and I won't use the browser over other windows - it'll look so good then (to me); however, I do believe they should give people an option, in case they have a set up like yours. I think, not only do glass applications look bad with the default Windows 7 wallpaper, but the Task Bar does as well. you can also install a persona, i'tll disable aero! EDIT: i've just found this: http://blog.stephenhorlander.com/2010/06/01/in-content-ui-visual-unification/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 you can also install a persona, i'tll disable aero! EDIT: i've just found this: http://blog.stephenhorlander.com/2010/06/01/in-content-ui-visual-unification/ yeah , i was about to inform that , lol Also , don't think these are finally designs , check the mockups , they use not too much of glass Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted June 12, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 12, 2010 Yeah, they're not final, they were aiming to land at least a beta of the new theme this month, and we're only half way in. One of the new GUI/Tab features I'm interested in is "Tab Candy" From what I've read, it should take advantage of the Layers work and should be quite fast with the proper hardware. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 Yeah, they're not final, they were aiming to land at least a beta of the new theme this month, and we're only half way in. One of the new GUI/Tab features I'm interested in is "Tab Candy" From what I've read, it should take advantage of the Layers work and should be quite fast with the proper hardware. Yeah , i really like this idea , tab candy will replace list all tabs , and right now , if u have Altpreview for it enabled , u can see aero being used by it to show all the tabs , like this : Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugMac Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Firefox copying Google Chrome UI wise, except that the Firefox UI looks somehow like a cheesy copy of the Chrome UI. Don't like it basically. Honestly the innovation seems to be happening with Webkit and Trident. Firefox looks like a cheap hooker with new bling. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Heartripper Subscriber¹ Posted June 12, 2010 Subscriber¹ Share Posted June 12, 2010 Firefox copying Google Chrome UI wise, except that the Firefox UI looks somehow like a cheesy copy of the Chrome UI. Don't like it basically. Honestly the innovation seems to be happening with Webkit and Trident. Firefox looks like a cheap hooker with new bling. just because they put tabs on top like chrome? And rendering engine != UI Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreKe Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 NOTE: This has just landed , so you have to wait for today's nightly to use it , or else download this hourly build Is this only on Windows 7? The tabs are not at the top on the Windows XP system I'm using at the moment. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Firefox copying Google Chrome UI wise, except that the Firefox UI looks somehow like a cheesy copy of the Chrome UI. Don't like it basically. Honestly the innovation seems to be happening with Webkit and Trident. Firefox looks like a cheap hooker with new bling. Theres no innovation going in trident, it's still behind Gecko, Presto and Webkit Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 Firefox copying Google Chrome UI wise, except that the Firefox UI looks somehow like a cheesy copy of the Chrome UI. Don't like it basically. Honestly the innovation seems to be happening with Webkit and Trident. Firefox looks like a cheap hooker with new bling. :) Please don't mind clicking here (this is for cheesy word) sir :) Please don't mind knowing , no one copied anyone sir Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreKe Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Firefox copying Google Chrome UI wise, except that the Firefox UI looks somehow like a cheesy copy of the Chrome UI. Don't like it basically. Why is it a "cheesy copy"? It isn't even finished. Honestly the innovation seems to be happening with Webkit and Trident. Firefox looks like a cheap hooker with new bling. Except for Firefox having the most advanced HTML5 support and all that, you mean? I like the tabs on top feature... just not how they look right now. I can't wait for them to get that properly designed. So far, the nightlies are performing fast, just not as fast as Chrome still. Do you really have to promote Chrome in every single comment you make? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted June 12, 2010 Veteran Share Posted June 12, 2010 Is this only on Windows 7? The tabs are not at the top on the Windows XP system I'm using at the moment. Right click on the toolbar, check "Tabs on top" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592742998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 Is this only on Windows 7? The tabs are not at the top on the Windows XP system I'm using at the moment. For AERO only , that's why it had "New UI and Aero" Sorry for not being precise For you to get that , you need to wait for Firefox menu button to land , and that too not like a toolbar button , but placed @ top left after drawing the titlebar... Till then , Tabs for you will not use Luna etc... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592743002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugMac Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Theres no innovation going in trident, it's still behind Gecko, Presto and Webkit Trident is getting hardware acceleration, I thought and HTML 5 support, plus fast java engine. (just knowledge from general reading, I'm no guru), either way Mozilla seems to be playing catchup to Webkit and really stumbling on the way. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592743008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 Do you really have to promote Chrome in every single comment you make? LOL , dont take that seriously PreKe , we too would like to promote Firefox :D And why no one tells Chrome lovers and who say "copy' etc that Chrome , basically is using WebKit Engine (not its own) , and some of the Firefox core codes (im not that pro , so dunno which , but yes it does) So , why dont u say that Chrome too copied many things... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592743014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugMac Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Except for Firefox having the most advanced HTML5 support and all that, you mean? From what I read, that's Webkit's crown not Firefox. lol you've drank from the cool-aide fountain of Mozilla I think :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592743016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 Trident is getting hardware acceleration, I thought and HTML 5 support, plus fast java engine. (just knowledge from general reading, I'm no guru), either way Mozilla seems to be playing catchup to Webkit and really stumbling on the way. So they did all these innovations , except hardware acceleration... ? BTW why is IE speeding up their Java engine? Wont u use the word catchup here again? From what I read, that's Webkit's crown not Firefox. lol you've drank from the cool-aide fountain of Mozilla I think :D In http://beta.html5test.com/ , following are the scores (out of 315) Chrome 6 - 220 Firefox 3.7a6- 186 Safari 5 - even less (forgot the figures , but definitely less than Firefox) Opera 10.6 - 129 So i see two WebKit Browsers here , 1 @ top , 1 @ bottom of firefox. Yeah they are the king of the hill really! BTW i can see less ppl are voting for "No , i hate firefox"" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592743020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugMac Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 So they did all these innovations , except hardware acceleration... ? BTW why is IE speeding up their Java engine? Wont u use the word catchup here again? In http://beta.html5test.com/ , following are the scores Chrome 6 - 220 Firefox 3.7a6- 186 Safari 5 - even less (forgot the figures , but definitely less than Firefox) So i see two WebKit Browsers here , 1 @ top , 1 @ bottom . Yeah they are the king of the hill really! BTW i can see less ppl are voting for "No , i hate firefox"" Safari 5 on Mac gets 208 plus 7 bonus points. You really should learn facts before posting. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592743036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 Safari 5 on Mac gets 208 plus 7 bonus points. You really should learn facts before posting. LOL! So you are now comparing scores between two different OSs. These were on Win7 , and there is really no meaning to compare like this. BTW Safari and Mac , i see some optimization between them... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-401/page/7/#findComment-592743046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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