Meet Firefox 4.0.1

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What happened to the plan to make it look... well good.

Firefox-4-Mockup-i06-%28Win7%29-%28Aero%29-%28TabsTop%29.png

I agree. Currently it looks kinda like a bad knockoff of those really nice mockups.

Particularly the toolbar background/edge needs work. As you see in the firefox mockup screenshot and in chrome/opera, theres either a shadow around the edge (Fx 4 mockup, Chrome) or a definied stroke (opera) Frefox has this wierd muddy looking gray border between the toolbar in the glass and it really bothers my OCD self :p And it just needs some polish in general. The tabs, addressbar and the home button when placed in the tab bar look much nicer in the mockup. Also the fx menu needs a lot of work still. And in the mockup the statusbar is hidden like chrome. I hope that is to come as well.

Aaargh, Direct 2D rendering is junk. Screen tearing on flash. Artifacts behind the mouse cursor when middle-click scrolling. Not to mention that I can make a youtube video lag by mousing over the right sidebar very fast.

On the beta 5 nightly. Let's hope these get resolved by beta 5.

I don't have any of those issues (besides the middle click scroll artifact)

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Aaargh, Direct 2D rendering is junk. Screen tearing on flash. Artifacts behind the mouse cursor when middle-click scrolling. Not to mention that I can make a youtube video lag by mousing over the right sidebar very fast.

On the beta 5 nightly. Let's hope these get resolved by beta 5.

Slow plugin rendering is mainly down to the fact that the current plugin architecture is a design of the late 90s.

It should (hopefully) get better once Bug 556487 lands, and Bug 588055 could speed it up as well, but the long term fix is a redesign of the API to better allow this type of acceleration (like on OS X, plugins should soon be able to paint directly via OpenGL, making them very fast)

As for the artifacts behind the scroll icon, that's a known bug (Bug 588403), it's not related to Direct2D.

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MaSx

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Ive 3 tabs open now, and I seems ok?? Maybe some other stylish interfering?

I'm not sure but i deleted all codes and just inserted your codes only but still the same results. Are you on Windows 7?

And one more time without doing anything, can you just open Firefox and a second tab? on the second tab CTRL+F and let me know if it works for you. ...B/c it's not working for me..T_T

Thanks =)

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Below, I've tried to simulate the mockup as closely as possible using only Stylish hacks from various people, but no extensions. The mockup is loaded in a tab for reference:

post-173518-12830619252549.png

These seem like somewhat basic changes, but they are taking an awfully long time to get into the UI.

I'm not saying I can do it, but I'm sure a dedicated CSS artist could make it look very close to the mockup using the current Gecko engine. Just make it look as close as possible, and if something is committed that messes up the layout, at least there is a layout and probably just a minor margin adjustment.

The question is, why hasn't this happened yet? Shouldn't there be just one bug filed on it called "Get SoapyHamHocks to make beta 4 look like the mockup" :p

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can anyone tell me why my speed dial button has suddenly got no button border like the other back forward, favorites and home buttons i have been using every nightly up until today's and haven't had this problem before is anyone else experiencing it or is it just me? it looks out of place now

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Successful doesn't mean it's good.

That's a pretty arbitrary definition of "good" then. If people like Personas, I fail to see the problem, or how it's a useless feature.

The question is, why hasn't this happened yet? Shouldn't there be just one bug filed on it called "Get SoapyHamHocks to make beta 4 look like the mockup" :p

UI polish is generally one of the last things to do. During heavy feature development stages, it's just not as high priority. You just want to get the abilities in, then make them look pretty. (If a feature changes slightly, then much of the polish work would be wasted time).

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Finally took the plunge to try out the Firefox 4 Beta 4 as I was unsure about the tabs on the top. I know you can move them and all but I must admit I like them on top. Thanks to some customisations posted in this topic, I also know have a transparent bookmarks, navigation toolbars and status bar :woot: Thanks for providing them :D

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That's a pretty arbitrary definition of "good" then. If people like Personas, I fail to see the problem, or how it's a useless feature.

UI polish is generally one of the last things to do. During heavy feature development stages, it's just not as high priority. You just want to get the abilities in, then make them look pretty. (If a feature changes slightly, then much of the polish work would be wasted time).

yeh i'm not worried about the UI either, wanna see D2D get sorted out and new JS engine optimization

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Below, I've tried to simulate the mockup as closely as possible using only Stylish hacks from various people, but no extensions. The mockup is loaded in a tab for reference:

post-173518-12830619252549.png

These seem like somewhat basic changes, but they are taking an awfully long time to get into the UI.

I'm not saying I can do it, but I'm sure a dedicated CSS artist could make it look very close to the mockup using the current Gecko engine. Just make it look as close as possible, and if something is committed that messes up the layout, at least there is a layout and probably just a minor margin adjustment.

The question is, why hasn't this happened yet? Shouldn't there be just one bug filed on it called "Get SoapyHamHocks to make beta 4 look like the mockup" :p

Stylish Code, Please?

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Stylish Code, Please?

Use this:

https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921416-share-your-custom-firefoxminefield-4-stylish-scripts/page__st__360__p__593087800entry593087800

But don't use three of the Stylish scripts:

- Tabs in Titlebar

- Navigator Toolbar Shadows and Curved Corners

- Bookmark Toolbar Icons Only

And don't use the Omnibar extension.

And reposition your UI elements to match.

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I'm not sure but i deleted all codes and just inserted your codes only but still the same results. Are you on Windows 7?

And one more time without doing anything, can you just open Firefox and a second tab? on the second tab CTRL+F and let me know if it works for you. ...B/c it's not working for me..T_T

Thanks =)

Just checked in newest nightly Minefield and all transparency seems to be better than on similar Firefox 4.04b with same stylish. Find bar still stays Black on that, but Minefield works. Not sure why though?

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I can't because when I click on Customize the button disappears ... i want bookmarks showing, no the dropdown button...

Found it!

/*Hides bookmarks button, bug scheduled to be fixed in later releases*/
#bookmarks-menu-button {
      display: none !important;
}

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MaSx

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How do I get the bookmarks text shadow like the "Menu bar"?

Exactly like this?

post-141682-12831245670795.png

and how do I remove the bookmarks menu button text? Is there such thing as "#bookmarks-menu-button-text"?

I tried this..obviously doesn't work lol..

#bookmarks-menu-button-text {
      display: none !important;
}

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foxxyn8

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How do I get the bookmarks text shadow like the "Menu bar"?

Exactly like this?

post-141682-12831245670795.png

and how do I remove the bookmarks menu button text? Is there such thing as "#bookmarks-menu-button-text"?

I tried this..obviously doesn't work lol..

#bookmarks-menu-button-text {
      display: none !important;
}

This will hide the bookmark menu located in the menubar. Is that what you were wanting to do?

#bookmarksMenu .menubar-text {
    display:none !important;
}

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MaSx

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This will hide the bookmark menu located in the menubar. Is that what you were wanting to do?

#bookmarksMenu .menubar-text {
    display:none !important;
}

Thanks but not quite. I just want to remove the text labeling from bookmark toolbar items. (NOT for custom bookmark folder labeling or text)

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Thanks but not quite. I just want to remove the text labeling from bookmark toolbar items. (NOT for custom bookmark folder labeling or text)

(If I'm understanding you correctly.)

The add-on I used with 3.6, smart bookmarks bar does exactly this.

https://addons.mozil...fox/addon/4072/

Whether or not you want to slap yet another add-on to Firefox is another matter though...

In any case, the description does mention that it uses some scripts from userstyles, so if you want to avoid another add-on, that's still possible. I just haven't looked for those scripts myself though, since I use the add-on.

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Below, I've tried to simulate the mockup as closely as possible using only Stylish hacks from various people, but no extensions. The mockup is loaded in a tab for reference:

post-173518-12830619252549.png

These seem like somewhat basic changes, but they are taking an awfully long time to get into the UI.

I'm not saying I can do it, but I'm sure a dedicated CSS artist could make it look very close to the mockup using the current Gecko engine. Just make it look as close as possible, and if something is committed that messes up the layout, at least there is a layout and probably just a minor margin adjustment.

The question is, why hasn't this happened yet? Shouldn't there be just one bug filed on it called "Get SoapyHamHocks to make beta 4 look like the mockup" :p

You should download Soapy's bookmarks star, so it makes the bookmark star on the left side, and use the script to fix the tabs so they are not aero, or at least have a high opacity, to have it match the mockups more, if that's what your going for. :)

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(If I'm understanding you correctly.)

The add-on I used with 3.6, smart bookmarks bar does exactly this.

https://addons.mozil...fox/addon/4072/

Whether or not you want to slap yet another add-on to Firefox is another matter though...

In any case, the description does mention that it uses some scripts from userstyles, so if you want to avoid another add-on, that's still possible. I just haven't looked for those scripts myself though, since I use the add-on.

Here you go, this label, i want it out. I just want to keep the bookmark tab not the text.

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Thanks but not quite. I just want to remove the text labeling from bookmark toolbar items. (NOT for custom bookmark folder labeling or text)

Does this do what you want?

https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/921416-share-your-custom-firefoxminefield-4-stylish-scripts/page__st__360__p__593087800entry593087800

Use the Bookmark Toolbar Icons Only script under my post

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