ambiance Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Yes they are removing that damn progress bar when loading tabs! I did not like it either. I don't understand why the progress bar didn't fill the whole address bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyang Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Yes they are removing that damn progress bar when loading tabs! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambiance Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Is this the progress bar you are talking about or are you talking about the proposed top of tabs progress bar? I think they should use the former and fill the whole address bar instead of the tiny line. When cropping the image I noticed it isn't even drawn properly as half of the line sits outside the address bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmb219 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Is this the progress bar you are talking about or are you talking about the proposed top of tabs progress bar? I think they should use the former and fill the whole address bar instead of the tiny line. When cropping the image I noticed it isn't even drawn properly as half of the line sits outside the address bar. Sounds like both progress bars are causing problems - address bar and tab. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwod Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I really don't see the point in comparing JS speed, unless the benchmark is something time sensitive (i.e. rendering operations or such where it has to be completed within a set time frame) or the difference is massive (like older IE versions where the benchmark might take 10 minutes, vs. 10 seconds in Firefox/Chrome/Safari) For example, Firefox is 74ms faster than Safari on the v8 benchmark, but so what? That's less than 1/10th of a second difference. Well, not for any other browser but Firefox, because Firefox in itself relies a lot on XUL, which includes javascript. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sem XL Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 is the final release still set for late Oct/Nov cant wait to start using it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattburles Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 is the final release still set for late Oct/Nov cant wait to start using it I would say more likely january 2011 :( they are struggling to even get beta 7 released (still 14 blockers left and it has been this for awhile!) and there is still another beta (this might not be out till november at the current rate we are going) and release candidates after that to get through before the final release even... Here is what is blocking the final release: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Afinal As you can see we have a long time to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwod Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Just a sidenotes i think Bigzilla is possibly the worst bug tracking system in current times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted October 10, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted October 10, 2010 is the final release still set for late Oct/Nov cant wait to start using it Guessing by the state of the Firefox 4.0 nightly builds there is no way for Mozilla to get it out of the door before the end of 2010 unless they start cutting even more features. Firefox 4.0 is in a way Mozilla's Windows Vista in the making: Too many promises, features are being cut during development, the end result looks to become mediocre compared to other browsers. Here's hoping they can get it right with 4.1/4.5 or whatever 4.next will be called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 i'd rather they cut some less important features and get it out soon then release 4.1 6 weeks later with the removed features. The blockers are taking forever to fix, lets hope we get beta 7 out by the end of october. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesGaiZu Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 So I havent tryed the nightlys for a while but got bord of waiting for b7 thought id give them a try...wow it looks horrible all of the loading bars look horrible on the tabs and in the url bar they just don't fit in with the theme also why are the tabs now a horrible grey colour they looked fine in b6 why change them, the removal of the status bar is fine..aslong as you replace the functionallity..they havent I have no script ad block and stylish I have no way of getting to them without having horrible big buttons in the main menu and because the new "firefox menu button thing" is pretty rubbish I have to click about 6 times to get add on options. Im really dissapointed with the way firefox is going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 So I havent tryed the nightlys for a while but got bord of waiting for b7 thought id give them a try...wow it looks horrible all of the loading bars look horrible on the tabs and in the url bar they just don't fit in with the theme also why are the tabs now a horrible grey colour they looked fine in b6 why change them, the removal of the status bar is fine..aslong as you replace the functionallity..they havent I have no script ad block and stylish I have no way of getting to them without have horrible big buttons in the main menu and because the new "firefox menu button thing" is pretty rubbish I have to click about 6 times to get add on options. Im really dissapointed with the way firefox is going... Well I'm not. The problem are the bugs. It's taking to long to fix them. But I think Mozilla is heading in the right direction with Firefox. After FX4 is released they should focus on speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neudera Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Am I tripping or does the original mock-ups look a hell of a lot better than the beta UI? Mockup Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Am I tripping or does the original mock-ups look a hell of a lot better than the beta UI? Mockup Beta I've complained about this in this thread before, the current Beta UI looks like a train wreck and over the last few weeks there's be no attempt to fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explore Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 ^I have to agree with you. The mock ups look better then the real beta UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primexx Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 i don't see a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoxt Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Am I tripping or does the original mock-ups look a hell of a lot better than the beta UI? Mockup Beta That Beta, is like Firefox Beta 1 or 2. Doesn't have the new tabs at all. It still has a ways to go though, give it time. Still a lot to accomplish. I've complained about this in this thread before, the current Beta UI looks like a train wreck and over the last few weeks there's be no attempt to fix that. Look at the bug trackers. ;) Still LOTS of work to be done before it's final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted October 11, 2010 Veteran Share Posted October 11, 2010 i don't see a difference There really isn't one. I mean, the current builds don't have the shadow around everything, or the connecting curves (that's coming though, the mac theme needs it), but apart from that it's basically the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neudera Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 There really isn't one. I mean, the current builds don't have the shadow around everything, or the connecting curves (that's coming though, the mac theme needs it), but apart from that it's basically the same. The difference between having curves and shadows... ... and not having curves and shadows. It's like A1 steak sauce... yeah, it's that important. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Yeah I think the small details in the mockup like the usage of the shadow around the toolbar make it lkook FAR better overall. I really hope they add it. The current UI just looks a little sloppy and unpolished still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skittelor Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I have to agree with neudera and thealexweb, the beta's UI looks more like a pathetic rip-off rather than a polished work of art. And they've even decided to get rid of the progress bars, there's still problems with performance and rendering... etc etc. Its disappointing. I've got a feeling that Firefox 4.0 is going to be a half-baked release, which will soon be followed by 4.1.x releases to buff out the kinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted October 11, 2010 Veteran Share Posted October 11, 2010 The difference between having curves and shadows... ... and not having curves and shadows. It's like A1 steak sauce... yeah, it's that important. :D Yeah... there's a fair bit of difference between Aero on Windows 7 and Classic on Windows 98 that has nothing to do with shadows and curves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neudera Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Yeah... there's a fair bit of difference between Aero on Windows 7 and Classic on Windows 98 that has nothing to do with shadows and curves. You know what I was getting at. An unpolished UI isn't worth anything. Do it right or don't do it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidSolstice Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I've lost my faith in Firefox :(. Maybe again, someday, but each time I try it, it just feels slower and slower than the competitors. It was amazing when I first started using it (Firefox 2) but since then, it's been getting overtaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffney Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Firefox 2 & 3 felt lightweight and fast compared to other browsers. Now it feels like the big slow clunky one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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