Meet Firefox 4.0.1

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No, I read that before. I just misunderstood neudera. I thought he saw something changed from Beta 8 in the add-on manager in Beta 9pre, but that wasn't what he meant.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I was looking, too lol

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I have to say, and I hate that I have to say this, Firefox has finally failed me.

This browser, the same browser I've been using since before it was rechristened "Firefox", has been in development for almost 6 months now (more if you're counting the nightlies) and I've just grown so tired of waiting. I've repeatedly tried my hardest to stick with Firefox but it just isn't what it used to be anymore. It used to be THE browser to use, the one that you could use and laugh at all the people still using IE for, the browser that had all the addons, and all the other crazy cool features. But seeing as my needs of computing seem to be ever increasinly revolving around the web and webapps, I need my web browser to be as fast and stable as I feel my computer is, and Firefox just isn't cuttiing it. In the time it's taken Firefox 4 to get to its 7th beta, Opera has pushed itself through to version 11, and I'm sad to say (and happy, to an extent) that Opera has blown my expectations from a web browser out of the water. It's fast to start, renders lightning quick, and is smooth. Firefox used to be the real deal for me, the epitome of customization, but now, it's the slowest of the pack. Promises of speed and theoretical benchmark tests (some designed to score high with Firefox) don't really mean anything to me anymore.

Perhaps when Firefox finally hits stable (or, at the rate it's going, when it finally hits Beta 8), I'll find that familiar web experience in it. But until those, those of you who are tired of waiting and not getting results, I urge you to give Opera 11 a shot. It might be hard to adjust to at first, but you'll find those adjustments come well worth the change. Opera is rapidly picking up in the popularity that it deserves, I realize now how little credit I've been giving it all these years, and with its addon platforms, might even become as customizable as Firefox. Without wishing to upset anyone or start a flamewar, these are just my findings and my experiences, and if you want these Webkit-speed loading times (yes, I know Opera isn't a WebKit browser, it's not the point, Presto is also extremely fast) that everyone is talking about, give one of the other browsers a shot.

At the risk of sounding melodramatic, I'm clicking the "Stop watching topic" button now, and I'm probably never going to come back.

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I have to say, and I hate that I have to say this, Firefox has finally failed me.

This browser, the same browser I've been using since before it was rechristened "Firefox", has been in development for almost 6 months now (more if you're counting the nightlies) and I've just grown so tired of waiting. I've repeatedly tried my hardest to stick with Firefox but it just isn't what it used to be anymore. It used to be THE browser to use, the one that you could use and laugh at all the people still using IE for, the browser that had all the addons, and all the other crazy cool features. But seeing as my needs of computing seem to be ever increasinly revolving around the web and webapps, I need my web browser to be as fast and stable as I feel my computer is, and Firefox just isn't cuttiing it. In the time it's taken Firefox 4 to get to its 7th beta, Opera has pushed itself through to version 11, and I'm sad to say (and happy, to an extent) that Opera has blown my expectations from a web browser out of the water. It's fast to start, renders lightning quick, and is smooth. Firefox used to be the real deal for me, the epitome of customization, but now, it's the slowest of the pack. Promises of speed and theoretical benchmark tests (some designed to score high with Firefox) don't really mean anything to me anymore.

Perhaps when Firefox finally hits stable (or, at the rate it's going, when it finally hits Beta 8), I'll find that familiar web experience in it. But until those, those of you who are tired of waiting and not getting results, I urge you to give Opera 11 a shot. It might be hard to adjust to at first, but you'll find those adjustments come well worth the change. Opera is rapidly picking up in the popularity that it deserves, I realize now how little credit I've been giving it all these years, and with its addon platforms, might even become as customizable as Firefox. Without wishing to upset anyone or start a flamewar, these are just my findings and my experiences, and if you want these Webkit-speed loading times (yes, I know Opera isn't a WebKit browser, it's not the point, Presto is also extremely fast) that everyone is talking about, give one of the other browsers a shot.

At the risk of sounding melodramatic, I'm clicking the "Stop watching topic" button now, and I'm probably never going to come back.

I'm not sure if it's worth replying to if he's, "Never going to come back." :laugh: .

Basically, use what works best for you.

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At the risk of sounding melodramatic, I'm clicking the "Stop watching topic" button now, and I'm probably never going to come back.

Never say never ;) yea yea, people are bitching and whining at the ultra slow dev @ mozilla because in this ultra fast world, everything should be instant. But when FF4 is actually released, never is an impossibility. If you can't be a proper beta tester, then don't be a beta tester. People are just mad over this. Now take a break from those nightlies and 'browse' the web normally, heck there is nothing wrong with 3.6. LOL try out Opera if you must, it's the new thing I heard.

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Mozilla apparently want to move to a month long release cycle, but I have my concerns with that (similar to my concerns over Chrome)

But, if they're smart on implementing new features, then maybe they won't have the same issues that Chrome run into.

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i wonder if we are officially getting beta 8 tomorrow or if there are further delays?

Barring any last minute blockers, beta 8 will be out Tues or wed at the latest.

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I have to say, and I hate that I have to say this, Firefox has finally failed me.

This browser, the same browser I've been using since before it was rechristened "Firefox", has been in development for almost 6 months now (more if you're counting the nightlies) and I've just grown so tired of waiting. I've repeatedly tried my hardest to stick with Firefox but it just isn't what it used to be anymore. It used to be THE browser to use, the one that you could use and laugh at all the people still using IE for, the browser that had all the addons, and all the other crazy cool features. But seeing as my needs of computing seem to be ever increasinly revolving around the web and webapps, I need my web browser to be as fast and stable as I feel my computer is, and Firefox just isn't cuttiing it. In the time it's taken Firefox 4 to get to its 7th beta, Opera has pushed itself through to version 11, and I'm sad to say (and happy, to an extent) that Opera has blown my expectations from a web browser out of the water. It's fast to start, renders lightning quick, and is smooth. Firefox used to be the real deal for me, the epitome of customization, but now, it's the slowest of the pack. Promises of speed and theoretical benchmark tests (some designed to score high with Firefox) don't really mean anything to me anymore.

Perhaps when Firefox finally hits stable (or, at the rate it's going, when it finally hits Beta 8), I'll find that familiar web experience in it. But until those, those of you who are tired of waiting and not getting results, I urge you to give Opera 11 a shot. It might be hard to adjust to at first, but you'll find those adjustments come well worth the change. Opera is rapidly picking up in the popularity that it deserves, I realize now how little credit I've been giving it all these years, and with its addon platforms, might even become as customizable as Firefox. Without wishing to upset anyone or start a flamewar, these are just my findings and my experiences, and if you want these Webkit-speed loading times (yes, I know Opera isn't a WebKit browser, it's not the point, Presto is also extremely fast) that everyone is talking about, give one of the other browsers a shot.

At the risk of sounding melodramatic, I'm clicking the "Stop watching topic" button now, and I'm probably never going to come back.

Yes it is long wait. And even though i am still using Firefox myself. I agree with you on all point. Opera is properly the best browser out there technologies wise and deserve much more credit. And that is not just version 11 which somehow seems to be getting so much attention lately for NO reason. Opera has been good, since literally the very beginning!

The only problem with Opera, however is its marketing, and UI.

In my opinion, Firefox still gets the best balances Browser UI out there. ( Apart from moving the stupid Refresh button at the right recently ) And AwesomeBar is simply something i can not live without now. The speed and time saving advantage of awesomebar generally replaces any speed advantage i get with Opera or Chrome. Yes, being so much of a geek i actually timed it out, AwesomeBar saves me tones of time compare to the ms of Rendering and JavaScript.

And Firefox 4 is still the most memory efficient browsers with Multiple tabs opened. Considering version 4 actually had few bugs that increase its memory usage 100% compare to Firefox 3.6. With Those bugs fixed its advantage would be even clearer.

I dont know what happen with Firefox 4 beta 1 - 7, But if i call Firefox 4 beta 7 as Firefox 4 final, Firefox 4 beta 8 would be like Firefox 4.5 or Firefox 5. It feels so much different.

Yes Firefox Dev is Slow, but hopefully beta 8 will shine enough to change your opinion.

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Hey guys, I have a few questions. Is Firefox Sync supposed to work with two different versions? (say one's running a beta and another pc is running Minefield or the final version, when that happens)

Also, if I delete settings and profiles while upgrading (I like to keep it clean between betas), would that clean up the sync? or would I be able to "get back" my settings, bookmarks, etc?

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Seeing a real speed improvement in beta 8 :)

Still high mem usage though, ~850MB, though I do have 67 tabs open atm :unsure:

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