Meet Firefox 4.0.1

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thenaes

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With Beta 8 I installed FF4 beta for the first time. It definitely looks nice, but certainly feels like a beta. It was running pretty sluggish on my machine and was using over 250mb of RAM with only 4 tabs open.

I'll revisit when it reaches final, but for now I'll use Chrome or Opera.

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ThaCrip

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With Beta 8 I installed FF4 beta for the first time. It definitely looks nice, but certainly feels like a beta. It was running pretty sluggish on my machine and was using over 250mb of RAM with only 4 tabs open.

I'll revisit when it reaches final, but for now I'll use Chrome or Opera.

even the regular stable Firefox v3.6 eats ram up pretty quickly. sites like themortalkombat.com (the forums there) seem to eat more and more and more ram in Firefox when you keep refreshing the page.

it does this on Firefox 4 BETA 8 and Firefox v3.6.

that's the main site i noticed that seems to burn up ram quickly. most sites like Neowin etc seem pretty much fine with page refreshes etc.

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Deo Domuique

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LiquidSolstice, you've to realize that Mozilla Foundation hasn't the power & money of Google. Chrome started rapidly upgrading and all began complaining about Firefox developing. Opera doesn't even know what HA is. We will see what will happen when they will try to implement HA in their browser. The Add-ons also is Chrome's like but far behind yet.

Also, you've to know that FireFox 4 changing radically/dramatically and deserves time. Now its engagement on Hardware Acceleration requires typically as much time as all others. Keep in mind that only IE9 has so complete HA like Firefox.

At last, there are changes that you can't even see 'em. You wouldn't mention all these and in next version after 4΄ release, for instance 4.1, when "Electrolysis" will land, we will speaking for the most complete/secure/non-bloatware browser.

About Speed now, in REAL WORLD already seems that FF full loads the pages faster. At least it's working for me like that. Only with Chromium 10 I can compare it. Don't fall into the traps of some web-based tests. The combination of TraceMonkey & JaegerMonkey does miracles! Opera some times loads fast but some times its characteristic delay ( like being unresponsive or loading the items in heavy pages one by one! ) exists years now!

I also must realize that I can't speak proper English! :p I hope you get a point, the basic meaning at least and truly apologize for this! :p

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DexMorgan

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Never thought I would say this, but I'm starting to like IE9 more and more. In the end I guess I'll stick to IE9 and chrome. Installed Fx Beta 8, and just like previous betas and nightlies, the UI just laaaaags. I'll give it another chance with the RC or final.

Where does it lag ? on what pages ? It used to lag for me on sites with flash but since async plugin painting in b8 it's not a problem anymore.

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Lee G. Veteran

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Thanks for the heads up. I'm updating now.

Edit: It seems to be quicker and more responsive than b7, but I think I've noticed that with the other new betas. It could be placebo.

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Jen Smith

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It seems to be quicker and more responsive than b7, but I think I've noticed that with the other new betas. It could be placebo.

Noticing that as well with B8 and Pre-9 Minefield, pretty peppy all around. Memory usage is still significantly higher though versus FF3.. hoping that's on the fix-list's to-do somewhere.

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Corris Veteran

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I've been using Chrome while I was waiting for Beta 8 to arrive, still not perfect, Chrome does a lot right compared, but I think I will go back to Firefox now, I missed having the options present in Firefox that are sorely lacking in Chrome imo.

Does anyone know of a working Stylish for Beta 8?

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epk

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I have lag on startup as well... been experiencing it with all the beta builds (nightlies too). Memory usage is high, but that doesn't really bother me (would be a problem on a netbook, but I use Chrome on those).

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Gaffney

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For me now it's faster than Chrome 9 at starting and loading pages. However it just doesn't seem fluid with the fuzzy text and the annoying bits.

The green loading circle for me is very annoying I find my eye's are always dragged to it while loading and I want the pages to be my focus. It should be faded like chrome so it doesn't distract you.

Why when I bring in the menu bar which I use does meta text appear above it ? Waste of space and looks ugly, remove the meta text and just put the menu there.

Fix the text a bit, remove/fix the loading circle, remove the meta text above the menu bar when you enable it, I prefer the menu bar from the firefox button but now that the tabs are on top the menu bar is squished between the meta data and the tabs also filled with meta data.

Guest mattburles

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2 more betas to go! :) but beta 9 wont be out till probably the end of january.

the meeting notes posted on mozilla say they wont have a schedule for beta 9 till after january 5.. this means we wont know what the new release schedule is for beta 9, 10 and rc till than :\

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iwod

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Those who fill it is running sluggish, have you try running it on a new profile?

Memory usage is high, but still lower then Chrome and Opera with Multiple ( 10+ ) Tabs opened. The introduction of new JS eninge and some other bits and pieces causes Fx 4 to have double the memory usage compare to 3.6. This will be fixed in the 2 upcoming beta.

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Deo Domuique

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Stylish 1.0.11 works fine. You just have to disable compatibility checking.

http://forum.userstyles.org/comments.php?DiscussionID=23704&page=1#Item_0

1.0.11 Has many bugs in 4 beta 8/9.

Version 1.1 beta 2 fixed the most important ones.

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ThaCrip

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The big question.. in which i ask every beta, is it ready to switch to it full time.

Well from me using it for around 24 hours now... i would say it seems good enough especially if you want to try something besides the usual Firefox v3.6.

it's my first time using Firefox 4 as i was on v3.6 as i waited til BETA 8 as it seems like the bulk of major issues seem to be sorted as it appeared prior to BETA 7 and it might have been fairly weak from what i heard. plus from what they say there will only be 2 more BETA's (i.e. BETA 9 / BETA 10) before the RC's start.

overall BETA 8 seems good enough to use but since it seems to use the Firefox 3 profile it might not be a bad idea to either create another profile or once you install BETA 8 to 'reset' the interface by customizing it and then clicking 'Restore Default Set' because mine did not really look like Firefox 4's general interface until i did that as i just installed BETA 8 and used it which means mine is using the Firefox 3 profile.

so basically if you want to play it safe just wait til Firefox 4 final. otherwise give it a shot. i liked switching because you can tell it's using the GPU acceleration unlike Chrome... because you can load up a application like GPU-Z and notice the graphics cards Mhz fluctuations (on Core/Memory) and GPU load. so you can tell Firefox 4 is actually using the graphics card. (i got a Radeon HD 5670)

plus as usual i think Firefox in general has the overall smoothest feeling browser and Firefox 4 is no different ;)

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Corris Veteran

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Stylish 1.0.11 works fine. You just have to disable compatibility checking.

http://forum.usersty...4&page=1#Item_0

1.0.11 Has many bugs in 4 beta 8/9.

Version 1.1 beta 2 fixed the most important ones.

I had disabled compatibility checking, I had just forgotten that the icon was placed on the add-on bar.

Updated to 1.1 beta 2, all sorted. :D

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